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October 24, 2007 11:15:51 PM

This post revolves around putting the system together. At the same time that I get my answers, and put the computer together, I want to answer everyone else's questions too (ie: document my steps w. pictures etc so people can see how its done). Alternatively, maybe someone can direct me to a previously written guide and that would simply save everyone time.

Anyways that was my pre-amble (pre-ramble maybe?). I'm putting together the following system, and was wondering if anyone can offer tips related to the parts I am using from their own experiences, or share anything I should really be aware of before I push the power button on for the first time.

FYI: I never have put a system together before, but I can read manuals! To be honest my biggest fear is not connecting the Chassis fans/lights/buttons to the mobo correctly :p 

MoBo: GA-P35-DS3R
CPU: e2180
RAM: OCZ Reaper DDR2-6400 2x1gb
HD: WD SATA 500gb
Optical: LG dvd drive (forget model #)
HSF: Thermalright Ultra 120 w. Scythe Fan (because I'm unoriginal like that!)
Chassis: Antec 900
PSU: Corsair 620HX
GPU: BFG 8800GTX OC

I was thinking of assembling without the HSF first to get baseline temps, reassembling with HSF and measuring temps again, then finally reassembling after lapping the HSF and measuring for the last time. I have no problems putting the effort into this, but what I want to know is whether or not this kind of information is useful to other people as well?

Without intentions of being presumptuous, if I can help out the community by documenting my experiences and making a little guide I'm more than happy to do so.

Thanks everyone!
October 24, 2007 11:59:23 PM

Nothing more than I already thought/prepared for, so that's comforting. :) 

Thanks systemlord.
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 25, 2007 3:35:43 PM

My suggestion would be NOT to lap the HSF. Thermalright is VERY good and they bottoms are VERY flat. I'd worry more about the CPU heat shield as they tend to be concave. I wouldn't lap anything untill you make sure everything works and also only do it if you have not other alternatives. It voids warranties. Granted I lapped my e6400 but the heat spreader was VERY concave as I saw from holding a razer over it up to a light. IT helped but dont unless you have to.

Fan connectors are keyed so you can't make a bobo. Lights? well they will either not work or work. If they dont work switch the pins, ive done it so many times. It doesn't hurt them

I would suggest putting the CPU, heatsink & fan, ram on the mobo before putting it in the case. Besides you have to take out the mobo to put the U-120 on anyways with the backplate.
October 26, 2007 2:58:31 AM

Thanks Jay! I'll lap as a last resort...or if I'm bored and really want to start sanding one afternoon...haha.
a b B Homebuilt system
October 26, 2007 5:40:35 PM

I know the initial core 2's has some issues with concave heat spreaders so lapping was a great fix but voided the warranty. I haven't heard much complaining lately though. I think just the cooler with do great. They are machines VERY well. The contact surface has a machined finish but there is a reason for this. It actually increases the surface area and the thermal paste fills in the gaps. It's still perfectly flat but has slight ridges which is what increases the area. A pretty good design if done right, and they did. I now use Thermalright for all my cooling, you can't go wrong with them. Some of their solutions are a little overboard though.
October 26, 2007 5:59:24 PM

...you do realize that you can overclock to 3 gig+ on stock HSF with that processor. ;) 

I think you're going about fifty feet overboard paying for an Ultra120 on there but eh, that's your call. :) 
a b B Homebuilt system
October 26, 2007 6:38:59 PM

I've heard this as well, I still think an aftermarket cooler is a good idea though. I've always replaced the stock ones. I believe it is because it only has 1MB L2 Cache and isn't it only 800MHz?
October 26, 2007 7:03:41 PM

I've had lots of problems with my LG DVD drive, so I would recommend against it, and probably recommend a Samsung SH-S203B. I know people who've used them and they seem much more reliable. There are millions of recommendations for this drive across the internet.

Also, Gigabyte does a pretty good job of labeling pin connections on their motherboards, so finding the right ones shouldn't be a problem.

Good luck and let us know how it goes.
a c 84 B Homebuilt system
October 26, 2007 7:29:02 PM

There is some debate about the value of lapping the cpu and heat sink. Read this review and experience in doing both: http://www.cryo-laboratory.com/forums/reviews-guides/67...
Bottom line: they found no benefit to lapping, even with a concave heat sink.

Lapping will void your warranty. The only value in doing it is to reduce the cpu temperatures to the absolute minimum if you are trying for a maximum overclock. With less than a maximum overclock, you can afford to let your cpu run a bit warm if necessary.

Otherwise, parts look good.
October 27, 2007 1:07:09 AM

I realize that the HSF might be overkilll...but I am planning on buying C2D and C2Q's as they become cheaper - I figure I would buy it now and get it over with.

I really appreciate all the suggestions, and I will let you know how it goes. Parts come in on Monday!!
October 27, 2007 2:21:52 AM

You should check with a razor to VERIFY your HSF and spreader, just to be aware of the amount it is off.

Use AS5 and DON'T LAP anything, especially if it passes the razor test as jay2tall says.

Then, when your PC starts getting a little long in the tooth, LAP, OC, AND GO CRAZY ON THAT THING.
October 27, 2007 2:42:09 AM

I recommend the (Thermalright) Ultima 90 if you want an aftermarket HSF; it has the cooling ability of the Tuniq and the Ultra 120 with 1/2 the weight. ;)  The only thing that beats it is the Ultra 120 Extreme.
October 27, 2007 2:56:28 AM

I got the thermalright ultra extreme 120, but now am looking into other cheaper CPU coolers for my old socket 939...

Man, I wan't to stop talking about these parts and actually put this together! I knew I should have ponied up the extra $$ for express shipping.
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