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Which GPU is the best GPU amongst these 2 Variants?

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Hi Everyone! I'm buying a new system within a week. It's kind of urgent! These are some of the specs......

1. E2160(E2180 Isn't out here yet. Will take a fortnight!)
2. 2 GB DDR2 800 RAM in Dual channel.
3. ASUS P5K-VM Mobo with a SINGLE PCI - 16 Slot.
4. Windows XP SP2

I contemplated an SLI mobo for sometime, even posted a thread on it, but decided over time that the gains are negligible(FOR ME), especially if NVidia has to create SLI mods for particular games. Either way, I'm not interested in SLI for now and it isn't cost effective for me since I dont mind being stuck at 1280x1024 or even 1024x768. And I'm not planning on a crossfire mobo, because I plan to save up and buy an 8800 GT within a year.

I CANNOT afford an 8800 GT for now, so I can wait for sometime, till the prices drop.

I can't decide between the X1950 Pro and the XFX 8600 GT XXX edition (I heard it can be OC'ed till 710 MHz easily, no sweat).

Please keep in mind prices here are almost 50% more than what you can get a GPU for in the US! So I'm getting the 8600 GT XXX at an unbelievable price after discount...... the same as the US Price :pt1cable:

So thats that! Should I go for the X1950? Since Every website (Except for NVidia) says its better than the 8600GT. But keep in mind that this is the XXX edition which I can OC like hell. And I'm getting Lost planet with the package absolutely free! So what should I go in for?

Oh yeah! Almost forgot. I am NOT a hardcore gamer. But will play some. I mainly intend to use this PC for my CAD and Graphics designing tools!

I've read a lot of these arguements of X1950 Vs 8600GT, but this is the XXX edition! So please, help me out. Thanks in advance!

Reply to dnanarv

For one thing, you don't tell us the actual prices you are looking at. That would help.

Reply to prolfe

And I'm not insistent on DX10. I'm not going in for Vista at least until a couple of service packs release and till vendors start creating Vista only software. I'm also going to buy the 8800GT within a year. The prices will have to drop in a year by at least 50-100$!

And please DON't suggest the 8600 GTS. Not cost effective.

Thanks again.

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Reply to dnanarv

well......... say about 200$, which means in the US it would be about 100-150$ Max!

These are the only 2 cards which are within my budget, from what I've seen. I'm excited about the XXX GT though.

Reply to dnanarv

X1950 beats the 8600GT , (and remember u can OC the X1950 too)

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Reply to Maziar

Yes! All the benchmarks indicate that the X1950 Pro leaves the 8600 GT far behind. But this is the XXX edition which on OCing will have a core clock almost 150 MHz more than the standard model. Plus I'm getting such a sweet deal on it Which is why I'm stuck on it. I haven't found any benchmarks on a XXX edition though.

I thought XXX was better than the X1950? Because its got faster core speed. Is that true?

Reply to dnanarv

I have the 8600GT and I love it. I have had 2 ATI cards in my life and both caused me problems. I'm nVidia from here out (at least till somehting convinces me that AMD has straghtened out ATi).

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Reply to Aragorn

The 8600GT is a lower midrange card. Overclocking it will only bring it up to midrange performance, which is where the pro sits. Overclocking the pro can bring it up to higher midrange performance. If you didn't understand any of that, this is what I'm trying to say. I don't care how far you can overclock a card, you can't make up for what it lacks. I don't care if you can overclock a core to 1GHz, it won't make up for the 128bit memory bus, the 32 shaders, and all the other things that make up the 8600GT. Buy the 8600GT if you want the free game, that might be a good deal if you want it. If the game doesn't interest you, you are better off with the x1950pro, which is the better of the two cards.

Last, to all the Nvidia fanboys in this thread, grow up. What if I said my last two (or even three) video cards were Nvidia cards that were crap? This could even be true as one of those cards would have been from the horrible FX series. ATI drivers have been rather good since the days of the 9700 series. Yes, they still had issues every now and then, but for the most part they were/are good drivers. I have used a 9600, a 9700, and now my x1800, and I have been happy with the cards and drivers I have used. Does this mean I hate Nvidia cards/drivers? Not even close. I would love to run an 8800GT, or even pick up someones old 8800GTS. Run whats good at the time, don't tie yourself up with "fanerism" so that you are limited with what you could run.

Reply to 4745454b

Cool.......... That makes sense. Never thought of it that way. The x1950 could probably OC too, and its got a 256bit memory bus.
But it not being a DX 10 capable card shouldn't matter, as I wont be using Vista, and will probably be using a DX10 capable card in a yaer. Right? (looking strongly at 8800 GT)

Thanks guys! The 8600 GT sounds good, but the X1950 Sounds better all the time.
And please answer the above question too, about DX10 compatibility.

Reply to dnanarv

In todays games DX9 doesnt have a notcieable difference with DX10, so dont worry about DX10, get a X1950 and OC
also 8600gt doesnt perform good in DX10 mode

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Reply to Maziar

Ummm....... I noticed something weird....... at any rate I didn' t understand it at all..... Check out this link..... Proves that the X1950 Beats the 8600 GT.... so I guess this means I'm buying Lost planet seperately, but I'm still going to sit still a couple of days.....

Link - http://www.gamepyre.com/reviewsd.html?aid=828&p=11

Question - How come the 1950 is WAY ahead of the 8600GT XXX in some places but only barely ahead in other games?

And how come the 8800gtx is about 50% better in some games, but almost 150% better in others? Doesn't make sense to me.

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Reply to dnanarv

But What if some game releases which says its a DX10 Game.... like Crysis.... Will it work on THe x1950 on XP SP2?

Reply to dnanarv

Quote from a site...........

"NVIDIA’s new 8600 series is interesting in several ways. This is the first mid-range card to fully support DirectX 10 Shader Model 4 in hardware, beating ATI’s R600 mid-range derivatives to the market in a significant way. On the other hand, there are no DirectX 10 games on the market, making it hard to make a recommendation of the new cards based on that feature alone. However, with the proliferation of DirectX 10 games coming in the next few months the need for a DirectX 10 supporting card is there and will result in a better visual experience than the old generation Shader Model 3.0 cards. If you have integrated GMA 9000 graphics on your motherboard and are looking for a card in this price range, the 8600GT is a good buy assuming you want to run the new games which will not run with the same visual fidelity as the DX10 cards.

Having said that, if you have a last-generation mid-range card like the 7950GT or X1950 Pro there really isn’t much of a reason to upgrade to either of the EVGA 8600GT or the XFX 8600GT or even a 8600GTS card (the price points for the 8600GTS/GT are currently too close to call them separate cards with the range from 170-190 for GT and 199-239 for GTS ) in today’s games as they will play Shader Model 3.0 games with ease. The price for a x1950 Pro online is $159.99, the price of a 7950GT is 199.99 making them directly comparable to the 8600GT and 8600GTS in terms of price. The performance increase from such an upgrade is not worth the price at the moment. That’s one problem with the trickle-down of technology from the 79xx and x19xx series high-end to the mid-range. The mid-range latest generation designed cards perform on-par or a little higher with the mid-ranged priced high-end cards of the last generation."

This means that x1950 will play a DX10 Game after say............. 6 months? I dont really understand the DX 10 concept.... But software isn't my strength. Does it work on Vista only, or would a DX 10 game work well on DX 9 on XP??? Either way, I'm set on the 1950 now, no pt in the 8600 as I\ll be taking an 8800 GT in a year. Only hope the 1950 its available in stock. I dont live in the US. Looking at ASUS 19500 pro.

Reply to dnanarv

dnanarv wrote :

And please DON't suggest the 8600 GTS. Not cost effective.

Thanks again.

I wouldn't be so fast to discard the 8600 GTS. A couple of months ago, it wasn't a really cost effectivesolution but at the price it can be purchased now it's worth considering. In fact it's pretty much on par with the 1950 pro as far as price and performances are concerned. Further more, it supports DX10 which is a bonus even though you don't really want it.

Message edited by fatcat on 11-06-2007 at 07:53:09 PM

Reply to fatcat

dnanarv wrote :

Question - How come the 1950 is WAY ahead of the 8600GT XXX in some places but only barely ahead in other games?

And how come the 8800gtx is about 50% better in some games, but almost 150% better in others? Doesn't make sense to me.

Different GPUs are better at different things.

Reply to homerdog

just wait till you can get the 8800GT .... FFS

Reply to shadowmaster625

Hey Maziar......... is your P5K-E (P35)cheaper than the P5K-VM? P5K-VM comes with the G33 on board graphics, which I DONT need if im getting a GPU. That way I can spend on the X1950 PRO which is a more than the 8600 GT. I've got to keep costs low. I'm a college student, on a budget.

Reply to dnanarv

Get an EVGA 8600gt and use the step up program to get the 8800gt when you can.

The 8800gt is WAY better than either of the other two.

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Reply to jwolf24601

BAD BAD BAD News.......... The X 1950 pro here is over almost twice as expensive as the GT........... almost $100 more than the US price. Thats way too much. So I guess i'll have to settle with the 8600 GT.... But I'd gotten my hopes all up on the new card. Guess I'll have to wait and save for the 8800 GT now..........

Reply to dnanarv

settle and die boy - NO CRYSIS FOR YUUUUU

Reply to wernerdb2

SURE IT RUNS FINE - pls tell me how fine - you poor thing - with your pants on yur knees it better run fine

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Message edited by wernerdb2 on 11-07-2007 at 11:51:50 AM

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