Is the G92 format based on 112 or 128 shader units?

One Internet Blogger I read recently claimed that the new G92 platform is actually based upon 112 shader units and NOT 128 like every other 8800 card ever made!. I suppose he thinks this because the GT is just 112 shaders.

He believes that for some reason, nVidia has changed their entire manufacturing model and instead of going 128 and laser-cutting 16 for the GT, thus leaving themselves 16 "overhead" for a Christmas GTS Model, they decided on 112 in 7 groups instead of 8! He claims the G92 GTS, if there even IS one, will just have slightly better vram and a factory OC and that's it - no extra shader units!

Personally, I think this is nuts. What do you think?

Dude, you are in all likelyhood correct about the 128 SPUs, but take a pill and calm down. The big Ape goofed, so what? You never made a mistake before? Like many smart folks he is having trouble computing that he probably made a mistake. Smart folks are accustom to being correct most of the time so when we make a boo boo it can be hard for us to accept. The smarter the person is the more pronounced this effect can be. Fortunately I'm only a little smart so I have no problems admitting when I'm wrong.

Your both wrong, its based off of a newly designed UPC.

The UPC dramatically increases efficiency compared to the dated SPUs and ROPs. This leads to more frames per hour and less heat in your bowels (because of its single slot cooler!).


(UPC=Universal Poop Core.)

Right, I get it and I don't disagree on any point. Still, what good does it do to make such a big deal about it? Anyone that cares can read what has been said and judge for themselves. You already have several posts on this same subject. One post to gloat is OK, but you don't need to keep harping on the issue.

Its basically a die shrink of G80 with a few new features added in, but the 128SP's with some disabled still works, it would seem that shaders are also locked with texture units and the bus idth is locked with rops.

So when we have 112SP's on 8800GT we get 28TMU's.
GTX on the other hand has 128SP's to 32TMU's.

Based on those figures, 16SP's is 4TMU's. Funilly enough, that means on GTX tehre are 8 activated and on the GT there are 7.

Same with ROPS and memory bus.
GT has 16rops and 256bit, thats 4x 64bit.
16/4 is 4.

GTX has 24rops and 384bit, thats 6x 64bit.
24/6 is 4.

All this works out exactly right with the old 8800GTS too btw, it simply has one more of the 2nd configuration with rops and bus unlocked and one more tmu/shader conbination locked.

If ya understand that, thats how it works

On the fudzilla thing, they have said some whacky things in the past but I find that usually they DO correct their mistakes, so basically they dont tell you something then leave you hanging if they are wrong they will display what htey next heard.

I dont have the patience to put up with sado's with nothing better to do then point out typos, its pathetic.

Try adding something people may want to read, rather then rubbish.

I'll tell you what is pathetic, your spelling/typos but somehow only in the last paragraph. I'm world's worst speller so if I notice that your spelling is off something is pretty serious.

As fas as all that goes I figured you typed the main body of your post sober, got drunk, and edited in the last paragraph after you were totally ripped.

Sorry if I assumed incorrectly. I was hoping for a good story about your fun night out on the town chasing women and getting hammered.

The people wish to know EXACTLY where he touched you.

I also would like to believe the 8800 g92 will have 128 su but it does not appear to be the case. I found this on gpureview.com ... http://www.gpureview.com/geforce-8 [...] d-548.html ... now I do not know if those numbers are definitive but usually gpureview only posts specs when they are confirmed.

Please tell the jury if it hurts when you pee...

I still don't know how many SP's the gts will have, but he sure was right about you beeing childish.

Can i just reiterate something i heard a couple of years ago:

Arguing over the internet is like running in the special olympics. Even if you win, you're still a retard.

Yep. Then punching is an option.

Exactly.

And the smell.

The one thing i don't understand - why the hell is it still going to be called the 8800gts? Surely the 8900 would be a much better name and save much confusion for the average consumer?

Then again, the average consumer is stupid. I have a friend who bought a laptop with an 8400gs that he insists is better than a 7900gt because it is a higher number....

I'm pretty sure they're going to release a GTX by february

If you dont like pettyness, then its better if you just didnt read fourms.

This has run over a couple of threads and this was posted on the other one
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=209295
Mactronix
Sorry the link seems to have timed out or some thing the origonal dosent work either now.

Leaving things to die isn't very nice, my Mother would be ashamed of me.

This is a hardware forum, but I think I'll throw in a little non-hardware advice for Mitchellvii, just because I am a bleeding heart and can't stand to watch him suffer so much:

DUDE, GROW UP! With this attitude you'll have a lot of trouble getting and keeping girlfriends, friends, jobs. You trusted an unreliable source, it happened to be correct this time, you win, congrats. Keep doing that, you won't win in the long run.

And another thing: please don't make us choose between you and the Ape. Your track record is 100% (you tried once, and you were ALWAYS right), his is probably only 99% (he tried 15000 times, he was ALMOST ALWAYS right). Guess which one I'd rather trust next time...

The Apes of this forum have earned their reputations by consistently providing the rest of us (I'm in that group!) with accurate, unbiased information. We are ALL better off for them participating. If they say something that causes your feelings get hurt, odds are the problem is with you. It's just computer hardware and software... no reason to get your feelings hurt over something so petty. If by some remote chance they are wrong, politely point it out and provide some hard evidence to support your claim. Ape has home-field advantage so all undecided calls are going against you.

Only because he dropped his pants, stuck his bare arse in the air, and started talking out of it.

Exactly.

only serious in the fact that i spelled it wrong, not that you were throwing it in my face. i did the the irony. Is your avatar from the old doom game?

Well it seems the card is bottlenecked by lack of rops and lack of bandwidth since it does only about 10% better then an 8800GT.