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October 27, 2007 9:09:52 PM

Hello everyone!

I have some questions ive been outa the pc hardware market for about 6 months now so im kinda outa date on everything.

Im looking at about 4500$ budget because i dont wana upgrade for 4-5years.

This is what i was thinking but let me know if you would change anything and why, I would perfer buying everything from newegg so i dont have to deal with multiple vendors.

System:
Case:
329$ - LIAN LI PC-V2100BPlus II - Link :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Powersupply:
430$ - PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:
300$ - ASUS Striker Extreme - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor:
1030$ - Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram:
? Not sure what to pick to get 1:1 Ratio with the 1333fsb

Video:
2 x 699$ - BFG Tech GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Physics:
142$ - BFG Tech PhysX 128MB - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Harddrives:
2 x 180$ - Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also i wana run them Raid 0+1 but im not sure how to do this, does it happen in bios or when u install windows?

Burner:
35$ - SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total: 4024 without shipping (ie-50$)

Any suggestions would be great all i need is the tower i have monitor and etc.

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October 27, 2007 9:16:57 PM

DUDE! BITE ME! THAT IS SWEET ASS BUDGET! Case is fine. PSU is fine. I have that board and it's the best. Get the Q6600 and OC it'll hit 3.0Ghz easily. Saves ya $500 USD. Get Crucial Ballstix 800Mhz. Get BFG Watercooled GTXes keeps them cooler and can outperform ultras with a slight oc. The Physx wont even fit on Asus Striker Extreme between the 2 8800s. RAID 0 is good idea.
October 27, 2007 9:21:18 PM

Wow, your processor cost more than my systems.

Anyways, I don't think there are components out there that will keep a system decent for the next 4-5 years. Honestly, I think it would be better to get a little less over-the-top components and expect a rebuild in a more reasonable time-frame(like 2 years).

If you are going to go for an ultra-expensive system, I am probably not the one to ask about it.

-Adam
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October 27, 2007 9:22:40 PM

System:
Case:
329$ - LIAN LI PC-V2100BPlus II - Link :http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Powersupply:
430$ - PC Power & Cooling Turbo-Cool 1KW - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard:
300$ - ASUS Striker Extreme - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor:
? - Intel Core 2 Q6600

Ram:
Crucial Ballstix 800Mhz

Video:
2 x 699$ - BFG Tech GeForce 8800GTX (normal no liquid, i dont want water)

Harddrives:
2 x 180$ - Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Also i wana run them Raid 0+1 but im not sure how to do this, does it happen in bios or when u install windows?

Burner:
35$ - SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R DVD Burner with LightScribe - Link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

New setup.. Edit everything. Im gona keep the video cards at fan cooled cause i dont want liquid system for now.
October 27, 2007 9:24:10 PM

Then you are good to go! Get a 30" Screen if ya can 2560x1600 looks damn nice. consider dual booting xp and vista because of dx 10
October 27, 2007 9:25:30 PM

aadamszc said:
Wow, your processor cost more than my systems.

Anyways, I don't think there are components out there that will keep a system decent for the next 4-5 years. Honestly, I think it would be better to get a little less over-the-top components and expect a rebuild in a more reasonable time-frame(like 2 years).

If you are going to go for an ultra-expensive system, I am probably not the one to ask about it.

-Adam


yeah i switched to more reasonable cpu it was little crazy.
October 27, 2007 9:29:44 PM

itotallybelieveyou said:
Then you are good to go! Get a 30" Screen if ya can 2560x1600 looks damn nice. consider dual booting xp and vista because of dx 10

Yeah i think i may do that, thats a hella of a resolution. I think i may get one first cause 2 os's is expensive.
October 27, 2007 9:30:56 PM

2560x1600 will really put your gtxes to work. If you are only getting one OS get xp
October 27, 2007 9:37:28 PM

vista will slide like butta on that rig. XP, Vista both good, but Vista will do 10x and need I remind you that Crysis is right around the corner? Seriously a whole year of drivers and updaates and Vista is good to go IF you have new hardware, powerfull hardware, and don't run really old/obscure apps.

Dual boot is best of both worlds. You need to decide 64 bit or 32 bit OS. 64 is working fine now with most configs and will allow you to actually use 4 gig of RAM, or more, with 32 bit OS you will see less than 3 gig useable with your system, even with 4 installed.

Vista 64 is working great for me, with 4 gigs RAM.
October 27, 2007 9:38:29 PM

If you want to wait three weeks, you can get a QX9650, which will future proof you more.
October 27, 2007 9:56:55 PM

There is very little in your plan that won't be obsolete in less than half your time frame. That is when you will feel like a chump.

My estimates:
cpu: Q6600 -- 3 months penryn arrives, nehalem is in 14 months
mobo --- 14 months nehalem needs new socket and chipset
vga cards ---4 months The 8800GT die shrink will be applied to the 8800GTX
memory ---14 months, DDR3 might be required for nehalem
PSU ---good, long term, but is overkill. CPU and vga cards are being shrunk for less power
DVD burner--ok
Case--ok
HDD---36 months Flash SSD's should become economic. If you don't know how to set up raid 0+1, then you probably don't have the specific data access pattern that will benefit from it.
A good 30" monitor---good for 5 years

My suggestion: Buy what you like now, and plan on a complete replacement in two years.
October 28, 2007 6:34:50 AM

Thanks for all the advice and system configs and how long everything will last my b-day is in march so i will start buying stuff now.

I just bought this because i thought it was a killer deal at newegg, im not a rebate guy but i will give it a try just because its newegg.

OCZ SLI-Ready 2GB (2 x 1GB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4-4-4-15 T1 is pretty quick and voltage coverage 2.2v cant be beat.

56.98 after the rebate and shipping isn't bad at all for 2gb i thought specially how low latency it is. Ive ran OCZ before on a previous pc i had and they were really nice when 1 module broke.

Well im very very careful with rebates so i printed everything even newegg page, confirmation of order, filled out rebate form and printed out my info also and stapled it to the form cause im gona be pissed if i dont get my money back. I ordered something off tigerdirect once and didnt get my rebate so yeah it was very disappointing.
October 28, 2007 8:41:06 AM

You might want to wait a little bit for the Penryns, If not the Q6600 OC to 3G/1333 is the one to have, I know you already changed that.

Get a top quality HS for the Q6600, the stock HS sucks. Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler paired with the Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm Fan. It's a little bit of cash to lower the CPU temp and add longevity.

That PC P&C 1KW is a badass but it is most certainly overkill. I ran the eXtreme Power Supply Calculator Lite v2.5 and added a couple little things and got a recommended PSU of 518 watts. This number is a little high because it is the recommended PSU not watts used. The PC P&C Silencer 750 would cover your needs very easily and is a hell of a lot cheaper. If you want to burn money it's fine.

All in all a very nice rig.

Enjoy
October 28, 2007 9:01:15 AM

Don't buy now, the stuff out in March will be better than what is available today. So if you can wait, I would if your buying now than go ahead. I would modify your build and still have a killer rig for around $1500-2000, but that is me. Than take that $2,500 and put it in the bank for a GPU upgrade later an then a CPU/mobo upgrade when the IMC comes to the Intel side, or when/if the AMD comes out with something better in a year or so. That is what I'd do.
October 28, 2007 9:44:54 AM

lunyone said:
Don't buy now, the stuff out in March will be better than what is available today. So if you can wait, I would if your buying now than go ahead. I would modify your build and still have a killer rig for around $1500-2000, but that is me. Than take that $2,500 and put it in the bank for a GPU upgrade later an then a CPU/mobo upgrade when the IMC comes to the Intel side, or when/if the AMD comes out with something better in a year or so. That is what I'd do.


Fully agree with old hand....

Better building a $2000 rig now,than seeing a €4000 rig being beaten by a €2000 pc in a few months....For €2000 you can still have all the basics you have now....Quad Core Q6600 clocked to 3.0ghz,2gb high quality ram,more modest motherboard and maybe a single 8800gtx clocked to ultra level or depending on verified performance 2 x 8800gt....I wouldnt bother with the physics card and would only get one raptor....

Like old hand said you can then upgrade the gpu in the spring/summer with a card that will probably beat 2 x 8800 Ultra's for $500....



October 28, 2007 10:04:43 AM

Dude,
with this budget i would buy a system from alienware
ur processor is worth more than my complete system(including monitor, keyboard, soundboxes and mouse)
October 28, 2007 11:07:06 AM

no advice but HAPPY B-DAY
October 28, 2007 1:00:26 PM

You'd be happier spending $2500 now... saving the rest and buying a new rig just a few years down the road. Your rig will be an absolute joke by its 4th year... no matter how much money you throw into it today. Just my $.02!
October 29, 2007 8:32:23 AM

intel has also just launched that new quad

i would consider that one, especially when ur going to overclock it(4.0ghz :D )
October 29, 2007 10:55:18 AM

With that kind of budget, you can easily build a DDR3 system.

Anyway, what I'd personally do is, spend $2000 today, invest the remaining elsewhere, or keep it in a bank.

A $5000 rig today, will easily be beaten by a $1000 rig in 3-4 years time.

So, it's actually wise to spend $2000 for a decent system (Q6600, 2/4GB RAM, Graphics all depending what you demand for, personally 8800GTS is the best value for money) and overclock from there. With these setup, you can easily run any applications or games in the market, and is even DirectX 10 compatible. With $2000, you can even possibly fit in 2x 24" LCD Monitor, and still stay within budget.

I spent $600+ about a year ago on E6300 + 2x1GB RAM + GA-965P-S3 + 7600GT, overclocked the system to 3.6GHz, and its still running great now. Although I could have saved $200 more today as the parts were so much cheaper. The only downside to the system I got now is that the graphics card isn't the best around, but I'm not a gamer, I do video/picture editing, and software developing, which mostly uses CPU.
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