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Overclocking E2160 to 3.0Ghz

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February 11, 2008 12:34:54 PM

Hi,
Because I heard that it was pretty easy to OC the 2160 to 3.0Ghz I now want to build a system with a E2160.

However I heard that some mobo's can't OC the E2160 that well, so I want to play it safe.

What cheap (€30/€70) Mobo would you guys recommend for OCing the 2160 to 3.0Ghz?

Btw I accidentally bought a Corsair 1Gb DDR2 533Mhz PC2-4200 last week, can it handle the OC?
February 11, 2008 12:50:16 PM

Someone adviced me to buy a GigaByte GA-P31-DS3L. Is that mobo capable of OC-ing the E2160 to 3.0ghz?
February 11, 2008 6:32:33 PM

momentkiller said:
Hi,
Because I heard that it was pretty easy to OC the 2160 to 3.0Ghz I now want to build a system with a E2160.

However I heard that some mobo's can't OC the E2160 that well, so I want to play it safe.

What cheap (€30/€70) Mobo would you guys recommend for OCing the 2160 to 3.0Ghz?

Btw I accidentally bought a Corsair 1Gb DDR2 533Mhz PC2-4200 last week, can it handle the OC?

I doubt the Corsair ram can handle 667MHz, after all, Corsair ram isn't a good OCer. Btw, in order to get 3.0GHz with the E2160, you'll have to do 9 x 333MHz.

If you want a motherboard that OC well, the ASUS P5k-e is excellent. If you can't fit it in your budget, the Gigabyte P35 DS3L isn't bad either, although you'll have a more difficult time OCing.
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February 13, 2008 3:39:59 PM

I personally use the Gigabyte p35-ds3l and max stable was 3.2Ghz on my E2180, but I keep it at 3Ghz even so I don't have to use to much Vcore (literally right on the 1.5V limit, but, I might reconsider going back) It's a nice budget OC board and would suggest getting it since these seems to be a budget build.
February 14, 2008 4:24:38 AM

I have been suggested the A-bit IP35-E for overclocking the e2160. It's cheap now too, it just doesn't have raid, 1394, and just has one pci-ex16 slot but if you don't need those then it's a great purchase
February 14, 2008 7:38:39 AM

Go with the GA-P35-DS3L and some decent DDR2-800 RAM (although as noted you will only need to run it at DDR2-667 for 3GHz on the CPU).
February 14, 2008 3:16:57 PM

G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ,2048MB, 800MHz, DDR2. PC6400, 2x
or
OCZ OCZ2P8002GK, 2048 MB, DDR2, PC6400, 800 MHz, 2 x

I don't know if the ds3l supports 2.10V DDram voltage (which is required for the OCZ memory)
February 14, 2008 3:44:00 PM

momentkiller said:
G.Skill F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ,2048MB, 800MHz, DDR2. PC6400, 2x
or
OCZ OCZ2P8002GK, 2048 MB, DDR2, PC6400, 800 MHz, 2 x

I don't know if the ds3l supports 2.10V DDram voltage (which is required for the OCZ memory)


The DS3L goes up to +.6V aka 2.4V volts max for memory.
February 14, 2008 8:21:38 PM

and the older model? the P31-d3sl? The price of that model fits better in my crappy budget :p . But which memory is better the OZC or the G.skill?
February 15, 2008 8:37:02 PM

I just started OCing my 2160 with the DS3L. I got to 2.8 with stock cooler and temps stayed around 60C for 2 hours on Large Prime95.

1. When I look at SpeedFan, there is a VCore 1: 1.38V and a VCore 2: 2.02 Should I be watching these VCore numbers?
February 16, 2008 9:03:43 AM

For me, i chose Abit IP35-Pro for my E2160,although it's price too high,but i am happy with it. My E2160 now run at 3,4 GHz, with Vcore 1,5V, and i use standart heatsink from processor. The temps stayed around 35C, and when full load it reach 40C until 45C. But if you don't need too much oc, i reccomend you to buy cheaper mobo, like P31-DS3L or biostar Tforce P965.
February 16, 2008 9:58:45 AM

what format is the P31-DS3L? The website where I'm going to order my system says that its ATX but an other webshop says its mATX , I'm confused :S

February 17, 2008 5:28:10 PM

Should I be able to get to 3.0GHz with the E2160 and the DS3L with the CPU voltage @ 1.4?

Cause I thought I could but something is stopping me.
February 17, 2008 5:40:02 PM

Dunkel said:
Should I be able to get to 3.0GHz with the E2160 and the DS3L with the CPU voltage @ 1.4?

Cause I thought I could but something is stopping me.

Normally yeah, 3.0GHz is very doable. Make sure it isn't your ram that's preventing it.
February 21, 2008 3:24:41 PM

I will second that 3Ghz is very doable. With a stock cooler things can get pretty warm. If you want the super energy efficient way, you could probably go to 2.75Ghz using stock voltage and with all the power saving options on. Temperatures should barely rise and it's a nice OC overall. then again each chip is different so you might need more or less voltage depending. I would try the ol 9x333 deal with a 2.4 memory multi to get 800Mhz on the ram. I would start with a voltage of 1.4Vcore and work your way up or down depending on prime95 results.
Also make sure you have PCI-E @ 100Mhz locked and that your memory is getting the proper voltage. The DS3L displays the voltage to be added to 1.8v. E.G. If you select +0.3V you'll have 2.1V If you do this you should have almost no problems.
February 21, 2008 5:55:42 PM

bildo123 said:
I will second that 3Ghz is very doable. With a stock cooler things can get pretty warm. If you want the super energy efficient way, you could probably go to 2.75Ghz using stock voltage and with all the power saving options on. Temperatures should barely rise and it's a nice OC overall. then again each chip is different so you might need more or less voltage depending. I would try the ol 9x333 deal with a 2.4 memory multi to get 800Mhz on the ram. I would start with a voltage of 1.4Vcore and work your way up or down depending on prime95 results.
Also make sure you have PCI-E @ 100Mhz locked and that your memory is getting the proper voltage. The DS3L displays the voltage to be added to 1.8v. E.G. If you select +0.3V you'll have 2.1V If you do this you should have almost no problems.


Does this post mean that you saw what ram I was using and it should be at 2.1V?

Thanks for the post.
February 22, 2008 12:50:54 PM

I'm planning on ordering this week so, here is my list so far:

Intel Core 2 Duo, E2140, Socket 775, Boxed € 62,88

GigaByte GA-P31-DS3L,Retail € 65,68

Seagate DiamondMax 20, 160 GB, 7200 RPM, 2 MB, SATA II € 42,97

OCZ OCZ2P8001G, 1024 MB, DDR2, PC6400, 800 MHz, 1 x € 24,09

Total € 195,62

I chose for the p31 because it keeps the total under €200. But if the p35 is that much better than the p31 I might be able to squeeze the p35 in to my budget.

What do you guys think?
February 22, 2008 5:36:46 PM

I would get the E2160. From what I understand, it overclocks better or easier to 3.0GHz than the 2140. I have the E2160 and I love it. I got it to 3.0 with no problem with the P35DSL. I love the GA-P35-DS3L as well. It's a great combo.

I'm currently stable @ 2.8GHz with a 1.30V, so that's over a 50% increase in performance with my voltage lower than it was at stock settings. :D 

I've since added a Freezer 7 Pro CPU cooler and plan on shooting for 3.4 in the near future, once I figure out my memory settings.

Lots of people here have this setup and they have been a big help.

That's my 2cents. Good luck.
February 22, 2008 6:31:55 PM

the 2160 was cheaper so I presumed that the 2140 was better :p  I'll add the 2160 to my list and remove the 2140
February 22, 2008 9:04:22 PM

I'd stay away from the P31, as it only can address 4GB max of RAM, and has problems with 1333MHz FSB (which is what you would be using to OC your e2160) and with using certain combinations of RAM modules. Here are Gigabyte's warnings:
Quote:

* Because of chipset limitations, do not populate both DIMM sockets of the same channel (e.g. DDRII1 and DDRII2), or populate 4 DIMM sockets with double-sided memory modules to prevent system's failure to start or incorrect detection of memory modules. Please refer to the user manual for the memory configurations table.

* Because of chipset limitations, when using FSB 1333 MHz CPU with populating all DIMM sockets, memory frequency will be reduced from the original, and system instability or incorrect detection of memory module may be occur. Please refer "Memory Support List" for memory support information.

February 23, 2008 6:21:30 AM

So i should go for the P35?
February 23, 2008 6:23:13 AM

Yes.
February 23, 2008 7:05:41 AM

my definite list(unless someone comes up with an really good suggestion):
Hitachi Deskstar 7K160, 160 GB, 7200 RPM, 8 MB, SATA II € 41,86

G.E.I.L GX22GB6400DC, 2048 MB, DDR2, PC6400, 800 MHz, 2 x € 45,73

Intel Core 2 Duo, E2160, Socket 775, Boxed € 61,43

GigaByte GA-P35-DS3L € 84,06

Total € 233,08

The only thing they don't sell at the webshop where i'm buying are low budget cases of acceptable quality. So i'm buying a Coolermaster Elite 330 at some other webshop.

BTW i got this PSU laying around from my previous case purchase; a Xgear 350W
My questions are
1 is this PSU as crappy as the case it was in?(the case was a nightmare.)
2 Has it enough power for the above system?
February 23, 2008 9:05:44 AM

Gigabyte's P35 motherboards are great value for their prices.
February 23, 2008 11:09:28 AM

I built a MSI P35 Platinum with a E2140 and Patriot PC2-6400 2x2gb, with that Zalman 9700LED,
as close to the Toms Hardware setup as I could get.
It was amazingly smooth to make and setup to 3000Ghz and 900 ram.
Super stable and fast.
So good I made a second.
Though this time with the E2160 as it was the same price and 2140 was not in stock.
This is a nightmare.
Have tried many sets of Patriot memory with no stability, and loads of shutdowns, and have wasted a week on it.
All the figures in the bios are different to setting up the 2140.
I wish I'd kept with the 2140.
From my experience don't touch the 2160, go with the 2140.
February 23, 2008 8:10:07 PM

mk - yes, don't even look at that PSU, just throw it away. The power supply forum will have lots of suggestions for decent-quality budget power supplies available in Europe.
February 26, 2008 3:42:35 PM

Dunkel said:
Does this post mean that you saw what ram I was using and it should be at 2.1V?

Thanks for the post.


Sorry, it was just a common example, but I would pop in your memory's model number at the manufacter site and see the exact specs for it. Mine even says the timmings/voltage right on the modules. But use what I said as a reference when setting you RAM voltage if you use the DS3L
February 28, 2008 11:24:01 AM

I have got the P31 D3SL with a OEM E2160 and a Arctic pro 7 cooler attached and i can confirm there were absolutely no problems in me getting this cpu to 3.2ghz. All i did from startup was go into the bios, enter the MIT settings, allow overclocking and went to (i think, im not on the pc at the moment) to 357x9. Left everything else on Auto. Set memory timings to 4 4 4 15 (OCZ DDR2 6400) and it runs a dream. I was considering the P35 too but i thought it was too expensive. This board does pretty much everything you want it to in all fairness. I have this lot coupled with a GT8800 512 and it runs like a charm, spewing out everything i throw at it like it wasnt there (Crysis excluded!)
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