ATI 3870 Benchmarks in VR-Zone Forums

[nurn]

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202510

Low temps, Low power, 7% less performance than 8800GT at stock settings ("In comparison, 3870 scored 11669 while 8800GT scored 12495"). Overclocked, beats a stock 8800GT (12961).

 

[Eviltwin17]

..... man i just dont get amd/ati sometimes, why are making it seem as if they are moving into their next gen series of cards when in fact this is not next gen at all, its just a reboot of their current generation of cards. they could have easily called it the 2950 pro or something

 

[Ilander]

Looks good, though I doubt I'm going to be in the position to buy anything until after R700 comes out, so it's not the card for me...but I knew that, anyway.

That makes the 3870 ATi's fastest card, right?

 

[Ilander]

..... man i just dont get amd/ati sometimes, why are making it seem as if they are moving into their next gen series of cards when in fact this is not next gen at all, its just a reboot of their current generation of cards. they could have easily called it the 2950 pro or something

The 3850 is a die-shrink of the 2900xt, and the 3870 is a new series GPU. It would be silly to call the new one a 2950.

 

[San Pedro]

Hmm, bungholio marks, let's see some game benchmarks!

 

[Dahak]

Well I for one am a little disapointed in ATI.I expected something better than that from them.They have been sucking the hind titty for too long as it is.C'mon AMD/ATI,get with the program and bring out a card that will whop NVIDIAS butt.I might be a NVIDIA fan,but I like good healthy competition as well.Keep plugging away ATI,and stop letting everyone down with those inferior benchmarks.

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[pauldh]

Yeah, 3dmarks don't hold much weight IMO. Sm3.0 score is good. Best news to me is the temps and noise levels. The 3850 is looking like what I want in my HTPC update.

 

[bfellow]

Hmm mixed card mode sounds cool. I like to see a CrossSLI of 8800 GT and 3850.

 

[nurn]

"Hmm mixed card mode sounds cool. I like to see a CrossSLI of 8800 GT and 3850."


Indeed, why can't they all just GET ALONG with each other,,, SLIfire - Crossli - AMDtel - whatever.

 

[rolli59]

Would it not be nice if they all got together like a happy family, they could then raise the prices! Then it would only be the consumer loosing money!

 

[Hatman]

The ATI cards have always done better in 3dmark06 then in real world apps though. On the other hand, I think 80nm to 55nm IS a significant improvement. Its solved the issues with the 2900xt, which was power consumption, heat, no need for what was kinda a high end cooler on it. No expensive 512mb bus doing next to nothing

 

[qmalik]

i still don't trust ati/amd these days....I'll wait for the real benchmarks...

 

[KyleSTL]

As pointed out on page 4, the 3DMark scores don't match on the OC'd picture (12961 vs. 12232). Something seems fishy.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

The ATI cards have always done better in 3dmark06 then in real world apps though.

That's true this generation, last generation it was the reverse. And for the mid-range both have impressive bungholiomarks and weak gaming performance.

 

[wingless]

NEXT GEN High End ATI GPU = R680!

RV670 = A VALUE CARD hence the "V"

 

[wingless]

Also I hope all of you see that that GPU-Z list 416 Shaders (not 320) and a Pixel Fillrate of 4.8GPixels/Texels. My Radeon 2900XT has 320 shaders and a 12.8GPixels/Texels Fillrate. So WTF?

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

..... man i just dont get amd/ati sometimes, why are making it seem as if they are moving into their next gen series of cards when in fact this is not next gen at all, its just a reboot of their current generation of cards.

Yet, the HD3800 has a new level of DX and SM support, plus added features.
Why shouldn't it get a refresh? This could be the X800Pro/X1800XL of that generation like the last two launches, with the superior high-end to launch later, remember it is an RVxxx part not an Rxxx part.

Also how is this naming any more/less non-sensical/logical than nV having the GT beat the GTS; another GTS line, with the potential of a 3rd GTS line which might potentially dethrone the GTX; or naming the chip the GT is based on the G92 instead of the G8x without anymore of a major upgrade than the RV670?

Neither company is making the naming easier, nor more sensible. It seems though that people have alot to say about it, even though they are unlikely to actually be confused so much as just want to complain about something.

 

[TheGreatGrapeApe]

Also I hope all of you see that that GPU-Z list 416 Shaders (not 320) and a Pixel Fillrate of 4.8GPixels/Texels. My Radeon 2900XT has 320 shaders and a 12.8GPixels/Texels Fillrate. So WTF?

GPU-Z hates new hardware, it say my Mobility HD2600 runs at 3mhz core 3 mhz memory (can you even run windows 95 let alone Vista at 60hz with that?).

Although maybe it's right and that's why I'm getting such slow performance in Crysis.

When W1zzard updates it it should read them correctly then.

 

[Harrisson]

Scores are pretty nice, and concidering ATI R600+ design is better at 3Dmarks, in games 3870 should be slower than GT on average ~15% or so. Pricing is very good, it seems we'll have 8600/2600 killer in hands. Much quieter cards also will be nice selling point too.

If Inq is correct about 3870 X2 comming out before New Year, I might even look at it for possible upgrade

 

[Ibanezrg570]

As pointed out on page 4, the 3DMark scores don't match on the OC'd picture (12961 vs. 12232). Something seems fishy.

They would'nt need to match up in that screen shot. When doing repeated tests in 3DMark06, the scores are only posted to the program window when the Pop-Up Score window is closed. The simple explanation for that is that they had run a previous test at some lower OC and thus the score in the program box is lower due to it being from the previous test (possibly at a lower clock I would assume). The Pop-Up window score is from the most recent test and will update to the program box when it is closed. They did this to allow full comparison of scores wen testing hardware/software changes. Hense, you can see where the improvement lies, whether it be in SM3/SM2 or CPU.

 

[darkstar782]

So the 3870, released over a year after the 8800GTX, still cant compete with the 8800GTX.

:/

 

[Hatman]

That's true this generation, last generation it was the reverse. And for the mid-range both have impressive bungholiomarks and weak gaming performance.

Was just reffering to this gen


darkstar78:

£300 vs £150>???


Should be pretty obvious. Wait for the ATI dual card and then see how it matches the GTX.

 

[dostanio]

good old ATI when they used to rule!

 

[M3d]

Well, I passed on a 8800GT for ~$240 out the door at fry's on release date to wait for the 3870. You win some you loose some. Now I hope for prices in the low $200s for this card. If not then I win some lose most.

 

[nurn]

Actually, I am willing to trade off a few FPS if the 3870 runs cooler and quieter than the 8800GT (which I have read cranks out a lot of heat and noise), and sells for the same price. It looks like the 3870 has some good overclocking potential, and things will only get better as the drivers mature. It might not be a grand slam for ATI, but I think it will keep them in the game and hopefully offers a viable alternative to the 8800GT at a similar price point.