ATI 3870 Benchmarks in VR-Zone Forums

http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=202510

Low temps, Low power, 7% less performance than 8800GT at stock settings ("In comparison, 3870 scored 11669 while 8800GT scored 12495" ). Overclocked, beats a stock 8800GT (12961).

..... man i just dont get amd/ati sometimes, why are making it seem as if they are moving into their next gen series of cards when in fact this is not next gen at all, its just a reboot of their current generation of cards. they could have easily called it the 2950 pro or something

The 3850 is a die-shrink of the 2900xt, and the 3870 is a new series GPU. It would be silly to call the new one a 2950.

Well I for one am a little disapointed in ATI.I expected something better than that from them.They have been sucking the hind titty for too long as it is.C'mon AMD/ATI,get with the program and bring out a card that will whop NVIDIAS butt.I might be a NVIDIA fan,but I like good healthy competition as well.Keep plugging away ATI,and stop letting everyone down with those inferior benchmarks.

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Hmm mixed card mode sounds cool. I like to see a CrossSLI of 8800 GT and 3850.

Would it not be nice if they all got together like a happy family, they could then raise the prices! Then it would only be the consumer loosing money!

i still don't trust ati/amd these days....I'll wait for the real benchmarks...

That's true this generation, last generation it was the reverse. And for the mid-range both have impressive bungholiomarks and weak gaming performance.

Also I hope all of you see that that GPU-Z list 416 Shaders (not 320) and a Pixel Fillrate of 4.8GPixels/Texels. My Radeon 2900XT has 320 shaders and a 12.8GPixels/Texels Fillrate. So WTF?

GPU-Z hates new hardware, it say my Mobility HD2600 runs at 3mhz core 3 mhz memory (can you even run windows 95 let alone Vista at 60hz with that?).

Although maybe it's right and that's why I'm getting such slow performance in Crysis.

When W1zzard updates it it should read them correctly then.

They would'nt need to match up in that screen shot. When doing repeated tests in 3DMark06, the scores are only posted to the program window when the Pop-Up Score window is closed. The simple explanation for that is that they had run a previous test at some lower OC and thus the score in the program box is lower due to it being from the previous test (possibly at a lower clock I would assume). The Pop-Up window score is from the most recent test and will update to the program box when it is closed. They did this to allow full comparison of scores wen testing hardware/software changes. Hense, you can see where the improvement lies, whether it be in SM3/SM2 or CPU.

Was just reffering to this gen

darkstar78:

£300 vs £150>???

Should be pretty obvious. Wait for the ATI dual card and then see how it matches the GTX.

Well, I passed on a 8800GT for ~$240 out the door at fry's on release date to wait for the 3870. You win some you loose some. Now I hope for prices in the low $200s for this card. If not then I win some lose most.

what a bad move by amdti

Supposedly:

3850: ~$150
3870: ~$250

Aww. Well, if the card runs close to the 8800GT in real game performance, the 3870 might be worth it. Otherwise I don't think I'll be paying 20 bucks less for a less powerful card. Rather drop the 270 for the 8800. Makes me sad. I was really hoping ATI would have a powerplay up their sleeve, or at least be tight in comparison testing. I can always hope that the benchies on the 15th will tell a different story.

Its because Nvidia can OC the shader clock, while ATI can't.

oh god know you will.regrdless of the oc poitential, looks like it s going to be not a good value only for the performance. if it s cool and quiet, probably it s clearly gonna end up being as being a better deal than the g92. this is the kind of card a lot of people are going to be ready to pay for. and between me and you(), you wont even mind how much better or worse it will look once you ll be playing the games you like.

The mixed 3870/3850 crossfire results weren't bad at all (bottom of page 4). Adding the 3850 made it jump 3,000 3dmarks.

Here are some other slides that may have been posted already.
http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-844605-1-1.html

I'm looking forward to some real reviews late next week.

But of course, not wise to get over-excited about some slides. In a week we should have some real reviews to go by.

SHould be reviews and cards available on Nov. 15th from what I've heard. I'm not liking buy.com's prices of $218 and $269 though.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php? [...] 1&Itemid=1

Actually, I kind of like it. It's pretty smart of AMD to focus on the mainstream, that's where the big money is.

Yup, good points. I hope they get back in shape soon so they can compete at the high-end too, that'd be good for everybody. Hmmm, with AMD at $12/share maybe I should buy some

Looking at their other prices it doesn't seem they have the best deals. Wasn't the 8800 in the higher 300's? lol. I hope newegg has the 3850 around 160-175/3870 around 200-220. I may buy one.

Eh.. Yeah. I for one REALLY want to see some 3870 real game performance marks, and a comparison against the 8800gt, the old gts cards, the 2900xt, and the 3850.

Everybody seems to be forgetting that we are going to see an R680 by the end of the year! The RV670 is just a value card and is not meant to be ATI's top-liner. "V" is for value and thats exactly what it will be when it comes out. AMD has gotten into the bad habit of releasing the low-end products first before the top of the line hardware is ready. This is giving the illusion that they downright suck and that is reflected in their stock price. The market has spoken.

The R680 will be the REAL DEAL and its expected to ship by Christmas so keep an eye out for that. If not, we'll at least have the HD3870 X2 to check out. 640 shaders and 32 ROPS for $400 can't be screwed up hopefully LOL (....until we get that beta-assed driver release).