Im looking for some realistic numbers reguarding the FPS of games based of the clock speeds of the graphics cards. Bottom line is that im looking at picking up an 8800GT here soon and there is 3 options im willing to pick from.
Not exactly sure if you're going to find those kind of comparisons on these cards just yet. Not in real world games anyway.
But, ditto to over-clocking the card.
I finished building my new system last week and just yesterday downloaded a pretty awesome over-clocking utility. (Riva Tuner) I have an eVGA 8800GT SC
I'm still in the middle of overclocking the system. So I have only played with the utility a bit.
All I did was push the stock core setting of 650 to 675 (KO) and here are the PC Mark 06 score I got in the FPS department.
All I did in this was push the core speed up to 675. All the rest of the system setting are the same between the two scores.
Of course this is PC Mark, so it's a synthetic benchmark. Real world gaming may have different results. BUT, faster is always better.
The FPS really only go up about 1 FPS with an increase of 25MHz, but I didn't touch the memory settings yet either. I have a good feeling I won't have a problem running this card at SSC speeds. Maybe more if I get better cooling.
The result is going to be different in each game, FEAR would probiblty notice a slightly bigger difference than most. Anything you get in overclocking is free and is therefore can't be a bad thing as long as your temps are ok. If you were to OC say your processer, GPU and memory, the combind OC's could net you 15-20 fps in some games. Lets say that you have two 8800 GTX in SLI and you OC each GPU 50MHz x2 and one card OC'ed get you 5 fps, you now have 10 more fps. You get the idea.
------------------------------Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.2GHz * Asus P5E * 2x1 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers * Raptor X * EVGA Geforce 8800GTX 768MB 651MHz/1525MHz/2100MHz * X-FI Fatal1ty Pro * Enermax Infiniti 720W PSU * Creative THX5.1 * Tuniq Tower 120
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Not exactly sure if you're going to find those kind of comparisons on these cards just yet. Not in real world games anyway.
But, ditto to over-clocking the card.
I finished building my new system last week and just yesterday downloaded a pretty awesome over-clocking utility. (Riva Tuner) I have an eVGA 8800GT SC
I'm still in the middle of overclocking the system. So I have only played with the utility a bit.
All I did was push the stock core setting of 650 to 675 (KO) and here are the PC Mark 06 score I got in the FPS department.
All I did in this was push the core speed up to 675. All the rest of the system setting are the same between the two scores.
Of course this is PC Mark, so it's a synthetic benchmark. Real world gaming may have different results. BUT, faster is always better.
The FPS really only go up about 1 FPS with an increase of 25MHz, but I didn't touch the memory settings yet either. I have a good feeling I won't have a problem running this card at SSC speeds. Maybe more if I get better cooling.
Hope this helps!
Your scores are very close to mine for the FPS in the most of the test, except for the processer you score much higher than me because of your quad. Other than that ours are pretty close considering that I have an 8800GTX and you the 8800GT.
------------------------------Intel C2D E6600 @ 3.2GHz * Asus P5E * 2x1 GB Crucial Ballistix Tracers * Raptor X * EVGA Geforce 8800GTX 768MB 651MHz/1525MHz/2100MHz * X-FI Fatal1ty Pro * Enermax Infiniti 720W PSU * Creative THX5.1 * Tuniq Tower 120
Silverstone TJ09 * Windows XP
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Okay, I cranked her up to SSC speeds. Both core clock and memory clock.
Riva Tuner detected default SC speeds at 650/1625/950
I took it to SSC specs to 701/1752/1000
the middle number is the shader clock which I have set to change with the core clock automatically. The last number, the memory clock is doubled for "effective" clock speed as listed on the EVGA website as SC 1900 and SSC 2000
I got a 3D Mark score of 13552! http://service.futuremark.com/orb/ [...] D=12033303 The only other overclocking I have done so far with my system is the processor. Q6600 running at 3.0GHz.
Memory is running in automatic until I top off my processor speed.
So as a result to synthetic benchmarks my overall score improved quite a bit, but only went up about 2 FPS.
I also manually set the fan to run at 100% to protect the 8800GT, so it's a little loud. I guess it's up to you if you want to spend the extra cash or not. I'm not sure if the SSC has better cooling than the SC. If not, I can't see spending the money if you are willing to overclock it yourself.
As far as PC Mark is concerned you wont see much change in FPS from one card to the next, but you will have some bragging rights with your overall score. Seems I did it on the cheap with a SC.
I'm actually interested to see what it will do with a game benchmark. I know the World in Conflict demo has one built in with just a push of a button. I may download it again. Unless someone can tell me how to activate the benchmark in the UT demo.
Okay, I cranked her up to SSC speeds. Both core clock and memory clock.
Riva Tuner detected default SC speeds at 650/1625/950
I took it to SSC specs to 701/1752/1000
the middle number is the shader clock which I have set to change with the core clock automatically. The last number, the memory clock is doubled for "effective" clock speed as listed on the EVGA website as SC 1900 and SSC 2000
I got a 3D Mark score of 13552! http://service.futuremark.com/orb/ [...] D=12033303 The only other overclocking I have done so far with my system is the processor. Q6600 running at 3.0GHz.
Memory is running in automatic until I top off my processor speed.
So as a result to synthetic benchmarks my overall score improved quite a bit, but only went up about 2 FPS.
I also manually set the fan to run at 100% to protect the 8800GT, so it's a little loud. I guess it's up to you if you want to spend the extra cash or not. I'm not sure if the SSC has better cooling than the SC. If not, I can't see spending the money if you are willing to overclock it yourself.
As far as PC Mark is concerned you wont see much change in FPS from one card to the next, but you will have some bragging rights with your overall score. Seems I did it on the cheap with a SC.
I'm actually interested to see what it will do with a game benchmark. I know the World in Conflict demo has one built in with just a push of a button. I may download it again. Unless someone can tell me how to activate the benchmark in the UT demo.
Could you also report what the score is for just the graphics card only score? I want to compare it to my 8800GTX, it will be interesting to compare the two different cards when one cost almost double the price.
Could you also report what the score is for just the graphics card only score? I want to compare it to my 8800GTX, it will be interesting to compare the two different cards when one cost almost double the price.
No problemo.
Main Test Results
3DMark Score 13552 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 5754 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 5558 Marks
CPU Score 4386 Marks
Main Test Results
3DMark Score 13552 3DMarks
SM 2.0 Score 5754 Marks
SM 3.0 Score 5558 Marks
CPU Score 4386 Marks
Are you running the basic version? The reason I ask is my resolution is pre-set at 1280x1024, I just took my GPU core to 648MHz and can't push it any further even with the OC bar set to 750MHz. I'll get back to you with my strange 3Dmark06 score, something isn't right here. Trouble shooting.....
I downloaded World in Conflict and ran the demo with both the stock 8800GT SC speeds and then loaded the SSC speeds via RiverTuner and found some interesting numbers.
I ran the demo with a resolution of 1680X1050 with the settings at "very high".
When I changed the resolution from the default 800X600 to 1680X1050 it changed the setting to "custom" for some reason. I put it back to "very high" and really didn't get good frame rates. Even with this brand new system with a 8800GT
I don't know. I think the installation of the demo didn't go well. It was a little buggy starting up and minimized to the desktop. I restarted the computer and everything seemed fine after that.
Here are the results:
8800GT SC at 650/1900
Average FPS 22
minimum FPS 9
Maximum FPS 49
At SSC speeds 701/2000
Average FPS 23
Minimum FPS 11
Maximum FPS 47
Strange that the maximum FPS would go down. I think to be more accurate I would probably have to run the demo five time each and average it out. I don't think I'm going to do that though. I actually would like to play a game before the day is through.
Like I mentioned above the demo was a little buggy. I actually ran the overclocked speeds twice. The first time the score was actually lower than the stock speeds. I restarted the computer and ran it again for the results I posted.
Well, I think you may have you're answer. Not exactly a professional benchmark test results, but I would say there's not much of a difference in real world game FPS between an SC and a SSC. Perhaps eVGA could have only put out a stock nVida spec card and their SSC card. There's really no need for four different models if the actual game don't run any better, IMO. It does however give you a couple of price point to buy an overclocked version though. I also don't know if the SSC can be pushed higher than the SC, so that may be a benefit as well if it is possible.
There you go!
Safe to say you only get one or two FPS per 50MHz.
Not sure if it's worth the extra cash, but you will have some bragging rights with your 3D mark score!
Message edited by Flingpoo on 11-11-2007 at 07:36:51 PM
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