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October 31, 2007 12:00:42 AM

I'm looking to buy a new gaming computer to replace this AMD 3400+.

At the moment I happened by the Cyber Power website and found a few things that I was interested in. I guess you would consider this a new system build because I'm at the point where I need to choose what options I'm interested in.
Please keep in mind that I have no idea if cyber power is a good site to buy from, so if you happen to have any other ideas I would be glad to hear them. I need to go through a route such as this due to this being a birthday present and would need to be purchased.

Anyways, I could really use a hand in choosing something will last the next few years before the next greatest things comes out. I want to warn you, I'm going to try to be as detailed as possible. 8)
These are the options I have only from the cyber power site.

Case
They have many different options available and honestly I could care less, but I'll figure that out when I get down to it

Power Supply
I plan on sticking with the NZXT PP500 500Watts, unless I need to upgrade due to other options. I know it's going to depend really on video card (or cards)

Processor
The choice that I'm looking (price/power) at are the higher end duo's as I really don't think I need quad.
My choices are..
(Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 CPU @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
(Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6750 CPU @ 2.66GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
To me it would seem to be a no brainer, go with the higher and the better you'll be, but I've searched around a few places and most testing with games seems to point that the 6750 puts out more.

Cooling fan
I'm going with either theCoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling System (Superior Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA), or Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System (Extreme Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA)
Case fan
I only plan on having one, unless it's suggested I get two.

Board
Now here's where things go all downhill for me. Knowing what to get and what may upgrade to and lets not forget crossfire, I'm a complete wreck when it comes to this so I'm just going to list the options available. I plan on running XP for now, but will go vista when games catchup to it. I also wanted to mention I plan on running 2Gb ram, but If I need to add more later down that road, I'd like to have that option.

Quad-Core FSB1333) EVGA nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI G31M-F Intel G31 Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P6N SLI-FI nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P6N Diamond nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P35 Neo-F P35 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1333
Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5N-E nForce 650i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5N32-E nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus Striker Extreme nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard
Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P35 Neo-F P35 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1333 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,&7.1Audio((Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P35 Neo-F P35 Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1333 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,&7.1Audio)

CrossFire Ready
Quad-Core FSB1333) MSI P35 Neo2-FR Intel P35 CrossFire Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,&7.1Audio
Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5K Intel P35 CrossFire Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394,&7.1Audio
Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus P5W-DH I975X CrossFire Chipset LGA775 Supports Core 2 Duo CPU FSB1333 DDR2/800 Mainboard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,IEEE1394,&7.1Audio

Memory
I plan on either using corsir, or mushkin brand 2 1G chips. They offer Corsair XMS2 Xtreme Memory w/ Heat Spreader and Mushkin Xtreme w/ Heat Spreader, but I don't feel I need to use them.

Video card/cards
Most people seem to have their own ideas on what is better. It depends on what board I go with if I run dual cards or not, but honestly I would be happy with using one. If I used just one it would cut down on power, that's for sure. I'm only listing one's that are in my price range and my knowledge of cards.
8400 GS 256MB,
8400 GS 512MB,
8500 GT 256MB
8500 GT 512MB
8600 GT 256MB
8600 GT 512MB
8600 GTS 256MB
8600 GTS 512MB
8800 GT 512MB (only a single)
8800 GTS 320MB (only a single)
8800 GTS 640MB (only a single)
Radeon X1550 256MB 16X PCI Express
Radeon X1650 Pro 16X PCI-E 256MB
Radeon X1950 Pro PCI-E x16 256MB
RADEON HD 2400 XT 256MB
RADEON HD 2600 PRO 512MB
RADEON HD 2600 XT 256MB (only a single)
Radeon HD 2900 XT PCI-E x16 512MB (only a single)

Hard Drive
320GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD

Optical Drive
18X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER
16X DVD ROM

Sound Card
Not really worried about this one. I'm gonna either go with Creative Labs X-Fi 24-BIT PCI or Creative Labs X-FI XtremeGamer 24-BIT PCI

Network
I run DSL 6.0 and I plan on using Killer M1 10/100/1000 Gigabit High Speed Online Gaming PCI Network Interface Card. I do a good bit of online gaming.


Whew, that's pretty much it. the main items that worry me are the board and video card (or cards).

Any suggestion on anything in here will be welcomed.

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October 31, 2007 1:05:51 AM

WOW.. i recommend antec 900 case. e6850. evga 680i for expandability (or a gigabyte p35 not on the list). Go with crucial ballistix. 8800gt is amazing, if you get another one later it'll be even better( i dont know if your psu could handle it or not but 450w is recommdned for SLI gt's). I dont use a sound card but do what you want on that one. I have no idea what that M1 thing is but I dont know if you'll really need it. how fast is your max upload/download without one (go to speedtest.net mine is 6884/433 and i play with no lag). Have fun :D 
October 31, 2007 1:09:54 AM

uhhh new to hardware? budget for pc? Don't get E6850 get Q6600 (yes it's quad core) same price but q6600 is future prove. Quad-Core FSB1333) Asus Striker Extreme nForce 680i SLI Chipset LGA775 FSB1333 DDR2 Mainboard damn that was typing adventure is the best but most expensive choice. Ehhh keep the power supply it should be fine.dont care for cooling. get the crosair ram. 8800gt. xtreme gamer is the one you want
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October 31, 2007 3:17:41 AM

Thanks you for the replys, they've been most helpful!!

I wouldn't say that I'm new to hardware, but when it comes to boards I absolutely have no clue. The board is pretty much where everything begins therefore I had no where to start.
I also had my concerns about going double or single vid cards.

My budget is something below $1500 with the lower being the better. 8) I can pretty much get what I want for Christmas/Birthday seeing and how I haven't asked for anything in the past 15 years, but I want to as nice to fam as possible. They would jump as the chance to get me something I actually asked for and didn't have to guess at what to get me.

I think I'm gonna change the whole Network card deal. It looks to be a very nice addition, but that's something I can always buy at any time. I'm running 6132/425, that's pretty much normal. That lag I get might just be from my older cp.

Going down the list..

Case
The list doesn't have the antec 900, unless I'm not looking at it correctly. What it offers are..
ATX MEDIUM TOWER CASE 350 WATT
Sigma Gaming Orca Mid-Tower 400W
NZXT Duet Classic Mid-Tower 420W
In-Win F-430 Mid-Tower 420W Case
NZXT Zero Aluminum Full Tower 420W
CoolerMaster Cosmos Silent Gaming Tower Case w/ 420 Watts

Moded Window Case Section
TURBO X-DREAMER CASE 350 WATT W/ WINDOW & LCD Temperature Display
Sigma Gaming LaVie Med-Tower Case w/ Window And Leather Trim Front Panel 420 Watts
Sigma Gaming Shark 9-Bay Gaming Tower 420W
X-Discovery Mid-Tower Case 420W W/ WINDOW & Temperature Display
Raidmax Kuroshio Mid-Tower 420W Gaming Case w/ Side-Panel Window
X-Cruiser Mid-Tower 420W Case W/ WINDOW, MultiMeter Display & Control
RaidMax Smilodon Med-Tower 420W Case w/ Side-Panel Window
Apevia X-Jupiter Jr. 420 Watts Case
Apevia X-Jupiter Full Tower Gaming Server w/ Temp Display and Fan Control 420 Watt Power
CyberPower X-Titan Tower 420Watt Case with 8 Open Bays & Side Window
Xion III Gaming Mid-Tower 420W Case with Side Window
Thermaltake Bach VX Mid-Tower 420W Case with Side Window
Apevia X-Telstar Aluminum Full Tower 420W Case w/ Temp Display and Fan Control
CoolerMaster Stacker 830 Tower 420W Case W/ Side-panel Window

Power Supply
I guess now looking at the cases more closely, it would appear the case would constitute the wattage. Here I'm gonna say I'll go with whatever the case says.

Processor
(Sckt775)Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6850 CPU @ 3.00GHz 1333FSB 4MB L2 Cache 64-bit
(Quad-Core)Intel® Core™ 2 Quad Q6600 @ 2.4GHz 1066FSB 8MB L2 Cache 64-bit
The 6850 seems great for right now and more economical, but the 6600 will be useful in the future. Performance wise (from what I'm reading) the 6600 can be overclocked (although I would use this as a last resort) to 3.6GHz with proper cooling. I think I'll stick with the 6600 if not just for the sake of future usage.

Cooling fan
I was choosing between the two liquid cooling fans because that's all I've heard F O R E V E R. Liquid cooling man, liquid cooling........ but if it's not that big of deal, I'll just go with a regular fan.
Options
INTEL LGA775 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
Vigor Gaming Monsoon II Lite CLT-M2LI LGA775 CPU Air Conditioner Cooling System
Thermaltake V1 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan
Thermaltake MaxOrb Enthusiast CPU Cooling Fan
Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro 92mm CPU Cooling Fan
CoolerMaster Hyper TX2 Gaming CPU Cooling Fan
CoolerMaster Liquid CPU Cooling System
Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System

Board
Have two choices so far..
EVGA nForce 680i and the Asus Striker Extreme nForce 680i SLI. LOL, the main thing and I have two suggestions, but at least I have somewhere to start.
Not looking at the tech data there's a difference of $163 with the nForce 680i being the highest. Not that it matters. I'm glad to see there wasn't a suggestion to go crossfire.

Video Card
I'm glad so far both of you suggested the 8800 GT. I've seen a good bit of writeups on it and it gets glowing reviews, but here again I wasn't sure if something was better or different configuration that would work better. They offer the GTX & ULTRA, but either one would throw off my budget.

I really want to thank yall again for the suggestions, they've put me in the right direction and more importantly closer to actually getting the thing.

Gonna look into both those boards in more detail, although I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking at.
Any suggestions on the case and fan?
October 31, 2007 4:36:40 AM

You're putting the least amount of thought into the most important aspect of your build, the PSU. As a rule of thumb, don't buy a case with a PSU, they aren't top quality. Pick a case with good airflow and stick a Corsair PSU in it. :sol: 

Corsair HX520w PSU
Asus Striker Extreme (includes soundMax card, full SLI capable)
E6750 and OC to 3Ghz+
Corsair 2GB Ram
8800 GT (of course)

The rest is easy.
December 11, 2008 1:25:23 AM

I have the Sigma Orca tower now with a OCZ 400W PSU, MSI 8400 GS Graphics Card, 4 gig Cosair 800 speed DDR2 Mem. Intel Pentium Dual Core 2.0Mhz processor, and the XFX nForce 630i motherboard

Main thing large PSU. corsair and OCZ are good.

Intel Processors are good i Prefer them

8000 series Nvidia Graphics card or better

Motherboard... Asus is good, so is MSI and EVGA, idk how the better XFX boards are mayby give them a try. Also make sure u have AVG slot its beter than PCI (x16) if you want fast internet search for a board with gigabit speed.

Cosair memory or Patriot they are good. 4 gigs is awesome, no hiccups

Wireless Network Card and Wireless internet is nice but not needed.

And A Big case is good if no liquid cooling but if u got liquid cooling then i dont know... My Mid-size Orca case is somewhat tight fitting w/ 2 HD's 1 CD drive and all the rest of the cords/wires.

Hard Drives were not mentioned but i like Western Digital Caviar Drives but they make fast raptor drives too i have 160gig Caviar Blue and 40gig drive. Size is up to you (more stuff more space needed)

Vista or XP? well Vista is great with its options try to get it. there are ways to make Windows XP stuff compatable with vista.
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