Not as much of a hammering as the Crysis benchmarks, but still 10% slower than Kentsfield and 15% slower than Yorkfield in the CPU score. Note this is an overclocked Phenom @ 3GHz to create a clock for clock comparison with the C2Qs, release speeds will initially be far slower, 2.4GHz this month, followed by 2.6GHz possibly in December or January.
Sorry Baron, looks like Rahul was wrong.
Message edited by epsilon84 on 11-06-2007 at 09:51:01 AM
Single channel and 25MHz slower memory could mean this test was worthless. Scoring that high with those disadvantages is no small task. How did they get 3GHz on X4 phenom at 1.184v?
Single channel and 25MHz slower memory could mean this test was worthless. Scoring that high with those disadvantages is no small task. How did they get 3GHz on X4 phenom at 1.184v?
Firstly, it's dual channel. I suggest you read the article, as they have an explanation, as Phenom X4 has dual memory controllers, one for each RAM module. CPU-Z can't report this correctly. As for the memory speed, it's a divider issue @ 3GHz. At 3GHz with DDR2-800 you can only get 3000/7 = 428 or 3000/8 = 375, and the motherboard defaults to the lower RAM speed. Even with the RAM overclocked to 428MHz, how much ground do you expect Phenom to gain? Certainly nowhere near enough to match C2Q.
As for the voltages and overclocking details, you would have to ask around @ xtremesystems for answers, as the OP regularly posts there.
The aticle is garbage I read it and still di not understand what they wher talking about.hopefully you read the whole article.Less than 2 weeks to go till we know whats up.I dont think the Intels are more money?,am I wrong,anyway in 2 weeks
Firstly, it's dual channel. I suggest you read the article, as they have an explanation, as Phenom X4 has dual memory controllers, one for each RAM module. CPU-Z can't report this correctly. As for the memory speed, it's a divider issue @ 3GHz. At 3GHz with DDR2-800 you can only get 3000/7 = 428 or 3000/8 = 375, and the motherboard defaults to the lower RAM speed. Even with the RAM overclocked to 428MHz, how much ground do you expect Phenom to gain? Certainly nowhere near enough to match C2Q.
As for the voltages and overclocking details, you would have to ask around @ xtremesystems for answers, as the OP regularly posts there.
It actually looks like a difference of front side bus and cache. The Kentsfield has 4MB, the Yorkfield has 6MB, Phenom has 2MB L2. 790FX has been said to run at up to 500MHz. Also, with HT3, I believe the RAM does run at rated speeds. I think this is the site that had the OverDrive pic that showed the RAM speed at 533MHz(1066DDR). It's just a matter of running the RAM async.
It was also reported by Digitimes I believe that the channel builders have the chips so, hopefully, retail samples will show up at places like this next week. It should be as close or maybe closer with 1066 and 2.6GHz HT.
Well, according to that link the 9700 is a 2.6GHz chip @ 125W.
From Artical:
"Finally, retailers are also indicating that the AMD Phenom X4 9700 will make its debut with the SKU HD9700XAGDBOX and at a retail price of $330. The Phenom X4 9700 is slightly more high-end compared to the Phenom X4 9600 and Phenom X4 9500, and features a 2.4GHz operating speed along with a 125-Watt Thermal Design Power envelope.
AMD's original roadmap slated the clock frequency for the Phenom 9600 at 2.4 GHz; the original clock frequency for the 9700 was at 2.6 GHz. It might be easy to assume the worst with the sudden decrease in core frequencies, though the change could also be attributed to creative marketing plans."
They changed it.
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If ignorence is bliss, why aren't more people happy?
According to the author, it seems like Phenom X4s are poor overclockers. That's why they used ES, because it has unlocked multiplier. For some reason the author continuously hammered this point.
For the guys saying it's a good performance.... You *are* aware the Phenom is running a 25% overclock versus stock clocked C2Q's, right? (3/2.4 = 1.25).
--------------- The more I read the forums, the more I feel that a number of individuals would be well served by skipping their next GPU purchase in favor of a little "Stress relief" from the local 'Working Girls'"
We can also compare it at stock speed, but what would that result in? We want to know how it compares clock for clock.
They could also underclock the C2Q's.
They are bad OC, well again, only a small part of the people OC there cpu, yes more people here then everywhere else, but still. For the clockers under us, it will be a bad/slightly worst buy.
Ah well, a few more weeks, then we will see real tests, hopefully.
