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November 6, 2007 5:18:49 PM

http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5588685

Check out the comparison above.

Please help resolve this issue cause I am now at my wits end. Just upgraded my processor because I wanted the advantages of dual core. Upgrade seemed to go flawlessly and system is reporting everything as it should.
I had performed a 3DMark03 before my upgrade and received these results:
3DMark 9429
CPUMark 130 (Yes 130!!)

This was with my previous processor the AMD Athlon 64 3500+. I have now upgraded to the 4400+ X2 and below and in the comparison are my results:

3DMark 9462
CPUMark 135 (Nice 5 point increase)

How can this be right? Especially when you check out the comparison from the URL above. The machine is almost identical to mine apart from he has the 512MB version of my graphics card and he managed the following results:

3DMark 13356
CPUMark 923

What have I done wrong!! Could it be memory/BIOS Config/PSU etc...
November 6, 2007 5:22:48 PM

Hope this Helps!!!

System Info below:

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CPU Info
CPU 1/1
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
Manufacturer AMD
Family AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
Architecture 64-bit
Internal Clock 2.2 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 2.2 GHz
External Clock 200.0 MHz
Socket Designation Socket 939
Type Central
HyperThreadingTechnology Available - 2 Logical Processors
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, 3DNow!, Extended 3DNow!, SSE, SSE2, PAE, NX
Version AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 4200+
Caches
Level 1 256 KB
Level 2 1 MB



DirectX Info
Version 9.0c
Long Version 4.09.00.0904


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DirectDraw
Version 5.03.2600.2180
Primary Device ATI Radeon X1950 GT

Display Device 1/2
ATI Radeon X1950 GT Driver 6.14.10.6727

Description ATI Radeon X1950 GT
Manufacturer ATI Technologies Inc.
Total Local Video Memory 256 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 256 MB
Total AGP Memory 0 B
Driver File ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.6727
Driver Details 8.421-070928a-053250C-ATI
Driver Date 9-28-2007
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 4096 px
Max Texture Height 4096 px
Max User Clipping Planes 6
Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
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Vertex Shader Version 3.0
Pixel Shader Version 3.0
Max Vertex Blend Matrices 37
Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 0.0 Hz
VGA Core Clock 2.3 MHz
PCI
Name ATI Radeon X1950 GT
Vendor ID 0x1002
Device ID 0x7288
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ATI Radeon X1950 GT Secondary Driver 6.14.10.6727

Description ATI Radeon X1950 GT Secondary
Manufacturer ATI Technologies Inc.
Total Local Video Memory 256 MB
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Total AGP Memory 0 B
Driver File ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version 6.14.10.6727
Driver Details 8.421-070928a-053250C-ATI
Driver Date 9-28-2007
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Texture Width 4096 px
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Max Active Hardware Lights 8
Max Texture Blending Stages 8
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Vertex Shader Version 3.0
Pixel Shader Version 3.0
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Max Texture Coordinates 8
VGA Memory Clock 0.0 Hz
VGA Core Clock 0.0 Hz
PCI
Name ATI Radeon X1950 GT Secondary
Vendor ID 0x1002
Device ID 0x72a8
SubSystem ID 0xe191174b
Revision ID 0x009a

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16-bit ARGB [4444]
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8-bit YUV [800]
16-bit AYUV [8800]
FourCC [UYVY]
FourCC [YUY2]
FourCC [DXT1]
FourCC [DXT2]
FourCC [DXT3]
FourCC [DXT4]
FourCC [DXT5]

Capabilities
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ASX file Parser
ASX v.2 file Parser
ATI MPEG Video Decoder
ATI Media Center Audio Encoder
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ATI Media Center Video Encoder
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Creative Internet Source Filter
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Creative Ogg Source Filter
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Default DirectSound Device
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DivX Decoder Filter
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DivX Subtitle Decoder
File Source (Async.)
File Source (Netshow URL)
File Source (URL)
File stream renderer
Indeo audio software
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InterVideo Audio Decoder
InterVideo Audio Processor Fx
InterVideo MPEG4 Video Decoder
InterVideo Video Decoder
Internal Script Command Renderer
Line 21 Decoder
Line 21 Decoder 2
MIDI Parser
MJPEG Decompressor
MPEG Audio Decoder
MPEG Layer-3 Decoder
MPEG Video Decoder
MPEG-2 Demultiplexer
MPEG-2 Splitter
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Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor
Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor
Multi-file Parser
NSC file Parser
Overlay Mixer2
QT Decompressor
QuickTime Movie Parser
SAMI (CC) Parser
VBI Surface Allocator
VGA 16 Color Ditherer
Video Port Manager
Video Renderer
WM ASF Reader
WM ASF Writer
WST Decoder
Wave Parser
Windows Media Audio Decoder
Windows Media Multiplexer
Windows Media Update Filter
Windows Media Video Decoder
Windows Media source filter
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Version 5.3.2600.2180
Speaker Configuration Stereo
Speaker Geometry Wide
Primary Device Realtek AC97 Audio

Sound Device 1/1
Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller Driver 5.10.0.5530

Description Realtek AC97 Audio
Manufacturer Realtek
Driver File ALCXWDM.SYS
Driver Version 5.10.0.5530
Driver Date 3-19-2004
Driver WHQL Certified true
Max Supported 3D Hardware Sounds 33
HD Audio Support false
EAX Support Supported
PCI
Name Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller
Vendor ID 0x1106
Device ID 0x3059
SubSystem ID 0x812a1043
Revision ID 0x0060

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Free Physical Memory 1.07 GB
Total Pagefile Memory 3.35 GB
Free Pagefile Memory 3.01 GB


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Supported Speeds
Supported Types
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Motherboard Info
Supported Slot Types ISA, PCI, AGP
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
Model A8V Deluxe
Version Rev 1.xx
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version A M I - 11000514
BIOS Release Date 14/11/05
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
AGP
Revision 3.0
Rate 4x, 8x (8x enabled)
Available Rate 0x0000000c
Selected Rate 0x00000008
Aperture Size 245 MB
Sideband Addressing supported (enabled)
Fast Write not supported

Card Slots
Slot 1/6 (AGP)
ATI Radeon X1950 GT
Order 0
Designation AGP
Type AGP
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Signal
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details In Use, Long
Device Class Display Adapter
Manufacturer ATI Technologies Inc.
Driver Version 8.421.0.0
Driver Date 9-28-2007
IRQ 16

Slot 2/6 (PCI)
Order 1
Designation PCI1
Type PCI
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Signal
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Details Available, Long
IRQ 0

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Order 2
Designation PCI2
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Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Signal
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details Available, Long
IRQ 0


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Order 3
Designation PCI3
Type PCI
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Signal
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details Available, Long
IRQ 0

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Order 4
Designation PCI4
Type PCI
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Signal
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details Available, Long
IRQ 0

Slot 6/6 (PCI)
Order 5
Designation PCI5
Type PCI
Characteristics 3.3V, Shared, PME Signal
Data Bus Width 32 b
Details Available, Long
IRQ 0


System Devices
Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)
Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
Manufacturer (Standard system devices)

Name PCI standard host CPU bridge
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Name WinXP Promise FastTrak 378 (tm) Controller
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Manufacturer VIA

Name VIA Bus Master IDE Controller - 0571
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Manufacturer VIA

Name VIA Standard Host Bridge
Manufacturer VIA
Name VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
Manufacturer VIA Technologies

Name VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
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Name VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
Manufacturer VIA Technologies

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Name VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
Manufacturer VIA

Name Realtek AC'97 Audio for VIA (R) Audio Controller
Manufacturer Realtek
Name VIA USB Enhanced Host Controller
Manufacturer VIA Technologies

Name VIA RAID Controller - 3149
Manufacturer VIA Technologies, Inc.
Name VIA Standard PCI to ISA Bridge
Manufacturer VIA

Name VIA Standard Host Bridge
Manufacturer VIA
Name VIA Standard Host Bridge
Manufacturer VIA

Name VIA Standard Host Bridge
Manufacturer VIA
Name VIA CPU to AGP2.0/AGP3.0 Controller
Manufacturer VIA

Name Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 10/100/1000Base-T Adapter, Copper RJ-45
Manufacturer Marvell
Name SoftV92 Data Fax Modem
Manufacturer CXT

Name ASUS 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Card
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.

USB Devices
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
Device Class Universal Serial Bus Controller
Description USB Root Hub
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
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Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2600.2180
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Driver Version 5.1.2600.0
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FireWire Devices
Description 1394 Net Adapter
Driver Date 7-1-2001
Driver Version 5.1.2535.0
Device Class Network Adapter



Monitor Info
Monitor 1/2
Name LG L194WT(Digital)
Manufacturer LG
Max Width 1440 px
Max Height 900 px
Monitor 2/2
Name hp f1904 flat panel monitor
Manufacturer HP
Max Width 1280 px
Max Height 1024 px



Operating System Info
Operating System Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600
Service Pack Service Pack 2
Windows Environment 32-bit
Locale GB
Desktop Width 1280 px
Desktop Height 1024 px
Desktop BPP 32 b
DEP
Hardware Support true
Applications Protected true
Drivers Protected true
User Option On for essential Windows programs and services only

Open Processes
Name PID Memory Usage
3DMark03.exe 3756 25 MB
AAWTray.exe 2928 2 MB
alg.exe 568 3 MB
AsusProb.exe 2956 3 MB
ati2evxx.exe 968 3 MB
ati2evxx.exe 1504 4 MB
avgamsvr.exe 1688 364 KB
avgemc.exe 1752 1 MB
avgupsvc.exe 1724 704 KB
CCC.exe 3564 12 MB
csrss.exe 704 4 MB
CTDetctu.exe 3148 3 MB
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explorer.exe 2360 18 MB
inetinfo.exe 1836 10 MB
jusched.exe 2860 2 MB
KService.exe 1864 13 MB
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LCDMon.exe 2708 4 MB
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MOM.exe 3000 5 MB
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services.exe 784 4 MB
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spoolsv.exe 1572 5 MB
svchost.exe 988 5 MB
svchost.exe 1052 4 MB
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svchost.exe 1252 3 MB
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svchost.exe 2588 3 MB
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D: BF2 DVD CD-ROM 1.91 GB 0 B
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Open Applications
3DMark03 - Free Version
AMD:CCC-AEMCapturingWindow
AppWindow
Asus Probe 2
Creative MediaSource Detector U
WindowsForms10.Window.8.app.0.3d893c



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Hard Disk Drive 1/1
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November 6, 2007 5:52:59 PM

Also, in device manager under the computer icon,does it say uniprocessor or multiprocessor pc? Also check under the CPU icon in device manager.Does it show 2 CPU's?Did you install the dual core drivers for this CPU from AMD's website?
November 6, 2007 5:59:17 PM

Yea all is as it should be 2 processors under Processors and ACPI Muliprocessor PC under Computer.

My memory configuration is 2 256MB sticks in 1&3 pair and 2 512MB sticks in 2&4 pair should I put the 1GB pair in the blue 1&3 pair. Will this help with performance? Just a thought.

I don't think PSU is a problem because I have hooked up a voltage monitor and all seems well within limits.

Also I've just done some gaming and it does seem as though I am benifiting from the upgrade everything feels pretty snappy but what is up with that CPU score. something is obviously wrong.

I have a copy of Vista do you think this could be an OS problem (currently on XP Pro) if so should I take the plunge and upgrade!!
November 6, 2007 6:16:03 PM

Have you downloaded and installed the AMD dual core CPU driver? Don't know if that will make a difference.
November 6, 2007 6:26:17 PM

If you've installed the AMD dual core driver ... only other thing i can think of is to uninstall and reinstall 3dmark - some setting may be made in the registry upon installation as to whether it uses 1 or 2 cores?
November 6, 2007 6:30:31 PM

it does say in 3D Mark that it is a dual core but I did notice on the G15 LCD performance monitor during the CPU tests that it was only using one core and maxing it out. Other tests were using both though.
November 6, 2007 8:17:00 PM

AC_V3GAS said:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=5588685

What have I done wrong!! Could it be memory/BIOS Config/PSU etc...


You can't trust the futuremark benchmark utitility to indicate hardware correctly. He may have his video card overclocked highly or CPU overclocked or something like this. Futuremark does not detect this correctly. I notice on my 3Dmark06 test if I set the multiplier on my CPU to 8 and an FSB of lets say 450Mhz, Futuremark assumes a 9X default multiplier of a Q6600 and shows my current CPU speed of like 3.7 - 3.8Ghz instead of 3.6Ghz. Also my video cards are overclocked and they do not show up with correct values either.

So he is getting a higher score because he has something tricked out you may not have despite what futuremark shows.
November 6, 2007 8:59:14 PM

look at your running process, I see a lot that can be done away with.
November 7, 2007 11:08:16 AM

Yea but not a lot is actually using that much resource. I ran the demo of DiRT last night and actually got pretty reasonable framerates especially compared to what I got before the CPU upgrade. I think warezme & Coret are right in that it must be something to do with 3DMark and not my machine maybe a reinstall of 3DMark will help.
November 7, 2007 12:07:48 PM

My advice would be to not get hung up on this. Real world gaming results are what matter, not your score in 3dMark.
November 7, 2007 12:29:55 PM

Whelp... I've seen this with a C2D system on another thread. The cause was over heated CPU, which caused it to throttle, hence lower CPU score.

Not saying it is the problem, but it's something worth looking at if you haven't done so.

Edit:

The thread was found here:

My Core Duo scored 555 in 3DMark06, whats wrong? (CPU-Z pics)
November 8, 2007 11:01:54 AM

I had Asus Probe open on my other screen while it was running and the temps stayed pretty stable and went no where near the Max for my CPU and also I don't have cool and quiet enabled.
November 8, 2007 12:15:28 PM

3DMark03 is not optimized for dual-core. Only frequency counts in this test

try 05 or 06
November 8, 2007 12:32:41 PM

AC_V3GAS said:
I had Asus Probe open on my other screen while it was running and the temps stayed pretty stable and went no where near the Max for my CPU and also I don't have cool and quiet enabled.


I don't think Cool n Quiet is going to matter much, since the 3Dmark does put your system under a load. It's only after it goes to idle where it can help save on electric bill and reduce heat.

CoreTemp will work on AMD's CPUs, and it has a log you could run to see what the temps are doing. It basically a txt file that you look at after the 3dmark run.

Just don't know what else could be happening to your CPU score.

GL on that though.. prolly something simple overlooked. :D 
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