I have two hard drives. One I was using for my OS, a Seagate 120GB SATA ST3120026AS. You can look up that model number for more info but I assume it's slower than my more current/modern drive, a Samsung Spinpoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB HDD. I was going to use the Samsung as my new OS drive since it's faster for writing/transfer and hopefully, the OS will work more effectively. Windows 2000 was on the Seagate but XP Pro (retail ver.) will be on the Samsung. Good idea, right?
But, what options do I have with the Seagate? Extra storage? I doubt anyone would want it for much $$ so I just thought it can be used for a 2nd computer or for extra storage.
My plan is to get another HDD to use via eSATA in an enclosure. Actually, perhaps two. I will data in one drive and in the other drive movies and video.
That brings me to one more question: which HDDs to get for that? I have considered three drives including:
Samsung Spinpoint F1 Series (750GB ver. or 1TB model) - issues of reliability but one of the faster drive series
WD Western Digital WD Western Digital Caviar SE16 640GB WD6400AAKS - great drive but lowest capacity of my choices
Western Digital Caviar 1TB SATAII (WD10EACS) - my choice so far because of low power, cooler operation and thus, ideal for external setup
Which is the best choice, in your opinion? They are all around $0.16/GB and the WD 640GB is the cheapest for the dollar. I like the Samsung 1TB but for the F1 series, there are cases of you getting errors or drives that either malfunction of die.
The WD10EACS is mostly suited for storage duty? When drives are all 1TB and above, would that WD still be restricted to storage work?
Anyway, I hope to get this situation remedied soon since I need to have a backup system (I have neglected that in the past but want something that is easy and quick. I think having 'external' drives that are easily portable and not always connected to my computer is the way to go! It's safe and convenient.).
Why not just use the 120GB as the OS drive and use the 500GB just for data? Maybe it's me, but I never notice a huge difference in XP when using a 40GB PATA, a 80 SATA, or any other normal drive (Never used the Raptor HDD).
XP Pro is definitely the way to go, at least over 2000. I've never used Vista so I can't comment on it. With Windows 7 coming out next year, I don't see any reason to upgrade to Vista if your already have XP Pro. Also, you are correct in that your new Samsung drive is better and faster than your old Seagate. Your new Samsung is SATAII and has a larger buffer. Your old Seagate is SATAI and half the buffer. The Samsung would definitely be the better choice for your OS, but 500GB is alot of space just for an OS drive.
I'd definitely keep the Seagate for storage, or a spare, if nothing else, in case you start having HDD troubles. This way you can use the Seagate to test or what-not. Another option for you is to buy a smaller HDD for your OS if you can find one on sale and use your new Samsung 500GB as your main storage drive. It's a personal preference really, but I dont like storing files on another partition on the same drive as my OS. I'd rather have a physical seperate drive for storage. I'd definitely use the Samsung over the Seagate for your OS, and keep the Seagate for a spare or storage drive. You can never have too many HDD's or too much storage space right?
Although, I could also argue that if you all you do is simple web surfing and word processing, then continuing to run your OS on the Seagate will not hold you back any. However, if you do alot of HDD intensive tasks, like playing games or anything else that requires alot of disk swapping and the like (many reads and writes), then the Samsung would benefit your more running your OS. Simply put, if you don't do alot on your computer, then you won't notice a difference between your Samsung and your Seagate.
Lastly, if you're considering new drives, I'd personally stick with Seagate and Samsung. I go Samsung if it's a really good price compared to Seagate, but I always default to Seagate. Seagate has a nice 5yr warranty with their drives and I've never had a Samsung fail on me.
Message edited by arson94 on 06-24-2008 at 12:20:14 AM
arson, I read on here that it's better to install OS programs in the same partition as the OS. That makes sense to me and then have your data on a separate partition or even another hard drive like you said. That also makes sense. We're talking Windows here of course.
If I bought a smaller HDD for the OS, which one would be a good choice so that it's not inferior or slower than the Samsung HDD I already have? I only know about the larger capacity drives since those are the ones I've researched and read about.
I do a lot of HDD intensive tasks if you count intalling extra operating systems. I install Linux distros although I don't want to continuously install. It's only at the early stages as I build a new system and decide which ones I want to play with. The other intensive tasks would be writing or adding files (movie files) but that was going to be done on a SATA drive in an enclosure. The 500GB Samsung HDD will probably be used for what I described above unless I'm forgetting something.
The reason I am not really looking at Seagate is the heat/power consumption factor. I was looking for a HDD for the enclosure so was mostly looking at WD and Samsung. A smaller HDD to boot XP might not make much difference and then I could be more open to brands.
The other reason I might want XP on the Samsung HDD is that other operating systems (Linux) will be installed and it's probably easier to have them all on the same disk drive than worry about how to boot them on different drives.
Message edited by Canuck1 on 06-24-2008 at 12:40:44 AM
Actually, GRUB can boot off different drives as well. I've once tested four different Linux distros spread across 2 drives. Never had an issue with booting.
Definitely install programs on the same partition as your OS. It just works out better because most programs install registry entries it needs to function properly and reinstalling your OS will delete those registry entries and the program will essentially have to be reinstalled anyway. So, installing programs on seperate partitions from your OS holds no value to me. But for storage purposes, use a seperate drive. When you say you install other OS's, then of course you'll want a HDD with enough space for however many OS's you'd want installed.
I do know that you can't install Windows on a drive that already has Linux installed. Windows install disc can't see the drive because of something Linux does when it formats a drive for a Linux install. You have to install Windows first and then install Linux distros afterwards.
If you'd actually use most of the 500GB Samsung with just OS installs, then by god and all means use the 500GB for your OS drive. I only said something because 500GB is alot of space to waste for just an XP Pro install. And you definitely don't want 500GB worth of stuff in your XP Pro install for the simple fact of chkdsk's and defrag's aren't meant to last an eternity. The extra stuff your Samsung brings to the table would definitely be beneficial over the Seagate, even if you don't really notice it, with booting and running an OS. It's just I don't like wasting space.
Message edited by arson94 on 06-24-2008 at 12:54:36 AM
I agree with arson94. I have XP, all the major programs, and Ubuntu 8.04 installed and less then 30GB of space. A 500GB just for OS's is really just wasted space.
But, the smaller HDD is a Seagate 120GB SATA ST3120026AS. On the TH Charts, this HDD is near the bottom of most benchmarks. It's an older drive (2004?). Should I still use it for my OS's? Or use it for extra storage and get a cheap, yet faster HDD for the operating systems?
Message edited by Canuck1 on 06-26-2008 at 11:03:49 PM
If you can find a good deal, I'd use it as extra storage and get a smaller, faster HDD for your OS. Again, that's more personal preference. If need be cause you can't find a good deal on an HDD, you can partition your 500GB drive into a 50 or 60GB OS partition and the rest into an empty partition. Use the 120 for storage until it's full or until a really good deal comes along for a somewhat smaller hdd for your OS. Just depends on if you wanna go through the trouble.
Well, I will install some Linux distros on the OS drive, too. I'm used to having Linux and Windows on the same drive and thought a 2nd drive would be a data/storage drive. I'd have another storage drive in an enclosure.
If I replaced the Seagate with another OS drive, it only needs to be around 200GB or even slightly less. With a 500GB drive, I will likely have half of it free and probably don't want to have data on that portion, right?
Right. I mean you can store files on the emtpy partition of your 500GB with OS's installed on the other partition. It's just easier for me if I don't have to worry about data being on the same drive I'm about to format with a Windows CD and reinstall Windows.
And once you get a newer OS drive, I'd put the 120GB in an external case cause that thing will be limited by the 480Mbps transfer rate of USB2.0 anyway. Your 500GB will sit nicely as a storage drive in your computer while you run your OS's on the new >200GB drive.
It's just easier for me if I don't have to worry about data being on the same drive I'm about to format with a Windows CD and reinstall Windows.
Your 500GB will sit nicely as a storage drive in your computer while you run your OS's on the new >200GB drive.
I agree 100%. Good point about not risking yourself by having data on the same drive as your OS especially if it's Windows. My Samsung 500GB drive is a good one so I thought I don't want a HDD that is too inferior to it! But, I don't know which one to get for the OS. I looked at the charts and was trying to find a good compromise between OS boot up speed and temperature.
Man, comparing specs on a HDD are a pain the ass sometimes. I'd just get a seagate 7200.10 or 7200.11 series drive or another samsung drive that's the same series as your 500GB drive, just smaller. Some drives NewEgg lists their Average Seek Time, Average Latency, and Average Write Time and you can use that one some drives to compare, but only some drives have that listed.
Message edited by arson94 on 06-27-2008 at 01:14:57 AM
I use a 640gb drive for my OS drive but I have a 80gb partition for the OS and the rest can just hold stuff (backups and such go there). That way you do not have wasted space and if you format/reinstall you have somewhere to store your documents and such so they are not lost.
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