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[New System Build] Advice please Budget of 1.4-2k$

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November 4, 2007 8:20:26 PM

--This will be my first PC I have ever hand built-- I hope I can do it right :p .
How well do you think this'll be able to handle crysis? I'm waiting till christmas for prices to lower on vid cards and other hardware. I know that the 9800 series will be released, and intel's releasing a new processor, but how long will this last me? Also I'm going with a budget of 1.4-2k$ If you have any suggestions on something way better and cheaper please send it my way :p . I most likely already have a monitor. And I definetly have speakers.

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 w/ G0 stepping
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail.cfm?itemno=A193845...

GeForce 8800GTX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS4 Rev. 2.0 LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard- will this be compatible with everything?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


2 sticks of 2GB RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG SpinPoint T Series HD501LJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PC Power & Cooling Silencer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also, will I need more ventilation or will all of this be enough/will it fit? (I know the "will it fit" question was already answered, but I changed some parts around.)

thermalright ultra 120 for cooling
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
November 4, 2007 8:29:55 PM

Lot's of people like the Antec 900. It has good ventilation. Also, if you order this weekend from newegg there is free shipping and a $35 rebate.
Antec 900 - newegg
November 4, 2007 8:32:26 PM

Okay cool ^_^, will it fit all the components in it? Also, I'm not really planning on ordering this all this weekend, more like early-mid-late december. Edit:Guess I'll be good to go with fans with that case.
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November 4, 2007 8:44:49 PM

get a Q6600 instead, Q6700 is a waste of money.
November 4, 2007 8:49:19 PM

Okay, 6600 it is, since it's the same thing and can just be overclocked to 3.2. Will I need any other fans with the Antec Case to overclock it to 3.2?
November 4, 2007 8:53:10 PM

1-I will suggest a 8800GT it is half the price of a 8800GTX and just 10% slower or so, then when the new cards come out u can upgrade(right now they are out of stock but they should be at stock soon, the price should go down too)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2-a Q6600 or an e6750 are the best bang for the bucks the q6700 is overpriced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3-that PSU looks ok but there are some others that are of better quality like this one from PCpower and cooling
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
from Corsair:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4-I think the smasung drives are faster and cooler, but sageta has better waranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5-I like the antec 900, there is no problem fitting this hardware.

6-Is sound very important for u? since it is a brand name mobo onboard sound should be ok

7-if you are going to do some serious OC I recomend a better heatsink, the one u choose is OK but there are some that area high end.

hope it helps and sorry for bad englis :) 

November 4, 2007 9:03:37 PM

No problem and thanks, I'm actually very new to overclocking and need to learn to how to do it first. I don't want to mess with the voltage on the card, because I need it to last me quite a while. Sound isn't that important to me heh, I'll be fine then ^_^. Any other suggestions?
November 4, 2007 9:52:36 PM

Okay, well I fixed it, I'm still going with the 8800 GTX. Is the motherboard good? Or could I use something better, thats in that relative price range? Also, how well do you think this will work for Crysis. Just a rough estimate?
November 4, 2007 11:00:11 PM

The board should be great.

What type of CPU cooler are you planning on getting? The Thermalright ultra 120 is one of the most tried and true CPU coolers out there.

As far as how well it will play on Crysis depends on what resolution you plan on playing at.
November 4, 2007 11:21:39 PM

Okay thermallight ultra 120 is on! :)  Also, 20" LCD screen, how well would that work? :p 
November 4, 2007 11:53:08 PM

20" LCD screen should be 1650 x 1050 i think if you are going with windows XP you should be able to max crysis with 25-35 FPS, but if you are going vista then you will have some trouble.

The 8800 GTX is kind of old technology, it was realesed one year ago, and it is still at the 500+, for half the price you can get a 8800GT then when the new 9800 or whatever nvidia realeses you can sell the 8800GT for around mm 200-160 and buy one of the new cards
November 5, 2007 12:43:27 AM

Like what others said, get the 8800GT instead of the 8800GTX. This will last you until the next gen cards come out, in which you could upgrade by then.

But if course, this is your money, and if you think the 8800GTX is worth it, since the price is dropping, go for it. I'm just warning you that it won't last long, since the current cards aren't powerful enough to play DX10 games.
November 5, 2007 1:03:27 AM

8800gt or 38xx from AMD, which ever gives you the best bang for the buck, since your waiting until December time frame. 8800gtx doesn't seem like a good buy right now, unless it drops down to about $400 or less or it gets upgraded.
If you want a different look and still have a decent case. Try this one at $60 shipped - $20 MIR = $40!! It can hold 2 8800gtx's and can do decent cooling. Here a summary of a review from cluboverclocker.
cluboverclocker.com:September 2007
This is one nice mid-tower. While the case has a ton going for it, it could be a little better. There is no removable motherboard tray and the case is made of heavy steel. Those are very small complaints when you look at the case as a whole. A big plus for this case is it will fit 2 8800GTX's in SLI. I have an 8800GTS installed and you can see all of the extra room available. This case is also designed for nice airflow while keeping the noise down. The HDD trays have rubber grommets to eliminate noise causing vibration and the power supply opening is lined with a rubber gasket to do the same. The large 120mm fans will move more air at less RPMs than a 80mm fan. This will also cut your noise level down. Even the large rubber feet will help keep the noise level down. Overall this is a very nice case loaded with features that you'd find on much more expensive cases. Club Overclocker Recommended

Just a option to consider. This will save you about $55 after MIR's and doesn't cost you $125 up front, so if you don't even use MIR's you'd be saving $65. That savings can be put into the GPU fund or towards a brand new GAME!! The rest of your build (current one) looks good and solid. You could go with the DS3R, it's cheaper than the DS4 and save you another $40 or so. This would allow you to pocket about $105 or so for other upgrades or games, or even to save up for the next GPU's to come out in '08.
November 5, 2007 1:24:49 AM

wow, thanks ^_^. I think I'm going to wait till December, when (hopefully) the new Nvidia 9800 cards come out and intel processors come out, so I'll be at the top of my game heh.
November 5, 2007 2:58:00 AM

One thing that I've noticed is that most case prices don't change much, so when you can get a deal on them, I'd jump at them. Yes BF is coming and might have some surprises, but as far as the case goes, your not going to lose much if any by waiting on it. And your not losing technology with a case. You could buy a case today and in 1 year from now, it will be the same and close to the same price. Not like CPU's/GPU's/memory/etc.
November 5, 2007 7:51:00 PM

I'll go for the new intel processor's/9800 GTX. Once it comes out. Is it speculated to come out this December? That's when I plan on ordering all my parts if these items come out. Might as well get the new quad core processor too, since it will only be 200 dollars more then the 6600 and definetly faster. Same for the 9800. Also, will the antec case be able to fit all of what I plan/am getting in? I mean say I did get the 8800 GTX/6600 processor, will that fit? Will I also need a physics card for crysis? If so, any suggestions?
November 5, 2007 10:17:55 PM

I'm pretty sure the Antec 900 will hold the 8800/8900gtx. Don't know the dimesions of the 9800, but I'm sure it won't be any bigger than the 8800gtx right now. I read somewhere that you might have to some special arrangements to the 900 to get the GPU to fit, but not sure on that.
November 5, 2007 10:22:44 PM

Im thinking this christmas when prices drop (hopefully) I'll get an 8800 GT? And also use the GTX? How well do you think that would work? In terms of powering DX10 Games? Then when the 9800 comes out, if it comes out during december that'll be my purchase over the GTX, and I'll get the GT as a present. If the GTX comes out way later when expected, say December of next year, I'll just put that one in with the GT and GTX. Oh-my-god, lol I think I'm getting carried away with this entire thing. It's way to fun!


--also, any recommendations on physics cards for crysis/other games in the future that might utilize it?--
November 5, 2007 11:28:42 PM

I don't the physics cards are worth any $ right now. Haven't seen any benchmarks that make it worth buying at this point. If your buying in December, than I'd get what ever you can get that is the best bang for the buck! Whatever you budget is for the GPU, get the best that you can get for your budget.
November 8, 2007 1:45:37 AM

If you get the EVGA one, than you could use there "Step Up" program within 90 days, so if a newer 8800gtx or the 8900's come out within that time you could take advantage of it. Look at the warranties and the reviews of either company to decide on which one to get. I think the eVga's are usually lifetime, but not sure, so check them both out.
November 8, 2007 3:36:37 AM

Wait until January, when the new Intel mainstream processor comes out.
November 10, 2007 8:35:16 PM

Are you sure about the physics card, I heard that crysis takes advantage of them.
November 19, 2007 12:56:56 AM

Mr Ai said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... - new intel yorkfield chip -

Will all my stuff work with this?

Yes, but that is quite expensive. You'd be better off with the q6600 or wait until Jan-Feb for the better Penryn chips to be released. They will be better than the current quads and should run cooler, since they are 45nm chips.
January 1, 2008 9:53:24 PM

Is SLI any good for maxing out games like crysis?
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