7900GS on Crysis

[neo_weapon]

Anybody have experience with this? how bout with bioshock, call of duty 4 or oblivion?

 

[bardia]

I've played the Crysis demo and I own Bioshock. My 7900GS keeps up plenty well, even for a 22" LCD.

Granted, we all wish we could have an Nvidia 8800 or AMD 3800, but my 7900GS for $100 purchased last June still has plenty of game left.

 

[badger101101]

I have a 7900gs, and it runs Oblivion decently. I can't say for the others. I imagine Crysis will bring it to it's knees.

 

[Dahak]

I have a 7950GX2 and it runs CRYSIS on medium settings at 1680X1050,none too shabbily I might add.Same things goes for BIOSHOCK.A little jumpy at first,but ran very smooth after the initial start up.Have fun.

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[spoonboy]

Patches to the full game and latest nvidia drivers should add 10% I would say to performance compared to the demo with drivers from a month ago.
Medium at say 1152x864 or maybe even 1280x1024 should be within reach.

 

[pauldh]

Anybody have experience with this? how bout with bioshock, call of duty 4 or oblivion?

There are better cards for the money if you are buying new. An X1950 pro for examaple would be better in all those games.

 

[Hatman]

HD3850pro 256mb I think im going to have to say for a basic card...

 

[neo_weapon]

There are better cards for the money if you are buying new. An X1950 pro for examaple would be better in all those games.

Damn, you are right, but it does cost about 40 bucks more on newegg...

 

[cleeve]

Damn, you are right, but it does cost about 40 bucks more on newegg...

$40 bucks? Cheapest 7900 GS is $120 and the cheapest X1950 PRO is $132 on Newegg right now.

 

[neo_weapon]

$40 bucks? Cheapest 7900 GS is $120 and the cheapest X1950 PRO is $132 on Newegg right now.

there's a rebate for the foxconn, making it 30 bucks cheaper.

 

[pauldh]

Damn, you are right, but it does cost about 40 bucks more on newegg...

$105 AR is $5 above the cheapest 7900GS also after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241038

Or a 512MB with quiet cooler for $130 AR which is cheaper than the only 512MB 7900GS on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131055


Lets look at the games you mention to see if it's worth the $5.

Crysis: easy victory for the 1950 pro
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2

Call of Duty 4: X1950 pro more than 50% faster than 7900GT even
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/call_of_duty_4_demo_performance/page3.asp

Oblivion: 100% more performanc ein the most GPU intensive Foliage
http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_8600_gts_preview/page9.asp

Bioshock: X1950 pro > 7900GT
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=681&p=8

And throw in UT3 for the final nail in the coffin
X1950 pro more than 100% better than the 7900GS:
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=693&p=5

And so you don't think it's a fluke, X1950 pro even beats the 7900GTX:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3128&p=4


Anyway, again, for a $5 difference, a clean sweep victory in the 4 games you mention, you'd be nuts to buy the aging 7900GS. After looking over those charts it should be an easy decison. Once an OC'ed 7900GS = 1950 pro, but that trend is changing quickly in many newer big titles.

Anyway, IMO the HD2600XT is better than the 7900GS too, often crushing it without fsaa. But while it takes a big hit eneabling fsaa, really what new titles can the 7900GS handle fsaa anyway and show a reason to buy it.

 

[neo_weapon]

$105 AR is $5 above the cheapest 7900GS also after rebate.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814241038



Lets look at the games you mention to see if it's worth the $5.

Crysis: easy victory for the 1950 pro
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=698&p=2

That's the 512MB 1950PRO which cost much more than the $5 differential. However, if i would spend 30-40 bucks more, i rather save up $100 more for the 8800gt.

 

[neo_weapon]

furthermore, i'm not sure how good gecube is....

foxconn seems more reliable.

 

[cleeve]

If I were to save a couple bucks more, I'd skip the 7900 GS and X1950 PRO and pay the $180 for the new Radeon 3850, which is in stock on newegg right now and will tear the 7900 GS and X1950 PRO to shreds... especially on Crysis.

At least until 8800 GT prices/availability changes to the point where you can buy one for under $300, which looks like it may be after christmas.


On a side note, Gecube seems to have an OK rep nowadays. A few years back they weren't considered as good though.

 

[pauldh]

That's the 512MB 1950PRO which cost much more than the $5 differential

Notice the 7900GT is not only a faster card than the 7900GS, but it too has 512MB in that link and the X1950 pro crushes it too. Hey it's your money so go for what you want. I'm just trying to help and keep you from getting crappy performance for your dollar.

IF you just like NVidia, then at least grab the 8600GTS as it's spanking the 7900GS too. If you want to put you first and not a company/brand, grab the X1950 pro.

 

[jerrardo]

I'm running a 7900GS (500mhz core, 690mhz memory) with an Athlon X2 @ 2.5GHz and 2GB ram pushing a 1360 X 768 LCD. In Crysis with everything at medium I was getting a FPS in the low 20's on average, with it dipping into the upper teens when there was a lot of foliage or action. It looked sweet and it never got to jumpy. I don't think I would play multiplayer at medium settings, but for single player gaming it was fine. Bumping the card up to 579mhz core, 828mhz memory, gets me 3, maybe 4 fps.

 

[pauldh]

At least until 8800 GT prices/availability changes to the point where you can buy one for under $300, which looks like it may be after christmas.

Yeah, I preordered an 8800GT KO from amazon almost right away and confirmation came back saying shipping 12/31/07 LOL. It's rediculous. I first assumed it was a conservative estimate, but right now I wouldn't expect it before Christmas. But for $279 shipped it would be an ok price compared to the $316 shipped (+tax for me) that newegg wants when they come in stock for a 10 minute window. Good luck finding an 8800GT for $100 more than an X1950 pro is currently, it aint happening this year.

 

[megame255]

At least until 8800 GT prices/availability changes to the point where you can buy one for under $300, which looks like it may be after christmas.

Yeah, I preordered an 8800GT KO from amazon almost right away and confirmation came back saying shipping 12/31/07 LOL. It's rediculous. I first assumed it was a conservative estimate, but right now I wouldn't expect it before Christmas. But for $279 shipped it would be an ok price compared to the $316 shipped (+tax for me) that newegg wants when they come in stock for a 10 minute window. Good luck finding an 8800GT for $100 more than an X1950 pro is currently, it aint happening this year.

I picked an 8800GT at a local Best Buy for $279.99 + tax using the in-store pickup option here: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage...800gt&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1190678470708

Almost every store in my area was out but I did manage to find a store that had some left. Maybe there's a store in your area that has them in stock too.

 

[pauldh]

Hey thanks. All the stores near me are out of stock. I really want an evga though anyway as I want the option to trade up toward a dual slot G92 based 8800GTS.

 

[caamsa]

That's the 512MB 1950PRO which cost much more than the $5 differential

Notice the 7900GT is not only a faster card than the 7900GS, but it too has 512MB in that link and the X1950 pro crushes it too. Hey it's your money so go for what you want. I'm just trying to help and keep you from getting crappy performance for your dollar.

IF you just like NVidia, then at least grab the 8600GTS as it's spanking the 7900GS too. If you want to put you first and not a company/brand, grab the X1950 pro.

8600GTS spanking the 7900GS???? where do you see that? They are pretty even, just about dead even......and the X1950 pro will not be all that much better......for Crysis he should go for a high end card like the 8800GT or the Radeon 3870.....or he could keep his 7900GS and be happy with it a while longer as it does fairly well. It should play Crysis at least at 1280X1024 on medium settings.

 

[duxducis]

i got 7900GS

can play Oblivion on Ultra High (i click in luncher) then add 2x AA, and inside game modify shadow and grass settings a bit and with all that i can get 30 min on most intensive screens but mostly 40-70fps.

all the games before Crysis play well, like Supreme commander, Fear, Age of Empires 3, Lord of the rings online, WoW on maxx everything. can play Crysis demo on med to low settings ok ~20+ fps

i also can overclock my 7900GS adding +100 to memory and GPU. to 550/760. and max my card went was 580/780 thats without any artifacts but i bring it down to round +100 adding ~10fps on most games

7900gs is great card and served me well for a year now, planing on keeping it for year longer or more

 

[itotallybelieveyou]

7900GS is a great card. Get it

 

[pauldh]

7900GS is a great card. Get it

Look at those links I posted and tell my why the 7900GS is a great card when the X1950 pro for $5 more crushes it in his games. Hey, I still have a 7800GT CO and have bought a couple 7900GS's which were best bang for the buck at the time, but IMO they are aging badly and getting spanked in too many new games to be good in their current price range.

 

[caamsa]

Look at those links I posted and tell my why the 7900GS is a great card when the X1950 pro for $5 more crushes it in his games. Hey, I still have a 7800GT CO and have bought a couple 7900GS's which were best bang for the buck at the time, but IMO they are aging badly and getting spanked in too many new games to be good in their current price range.

Here are the reasons..........

1. He has a great card and can OC to get a few more frames.....the card is still more than adequate for most games
and ok for newer games.

2. IMO the X1950pro is not that much of a major increase in fps to justify throwing away 100 bucks. I would not say
it crushes it. Those are strong words. The 8800GT crushes his card the X1950pro is a moderate increase...now
maybe I would agree with an upgrade to a 1950XT...but at this point in the game he should just keep the
7900GS.

3. A more appropriate upgrade would be a 8800 card or a 3800 card.

 

[pauldh]

Here are the reasons..........

1. He has a great card and can OC to get a few more frames......

You are missing the fact he does not have a 7900GS he is looking to buy a 7900GS!!!! Why buy a card for $5 less that loses bigtime in the games you want to play?????? Look at the OP and my links above and you shall see more clearly.

and, 50-100% (UT3, Oblivion, COD4) isn't a crush too you? For the same price it's a pummeling IMO.


BTW, yeah I would never recommend anyone upgrade from a 7900GS to a X1950 pro. HD3850 or above would be a nice boost though. But I am amazed how many people keep recommending buying the 7900GS now, they seem stuck on old benchmarks/games and not looking at the recent reviews of newer cards that include a 7900GS or GT in the review.