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e6320 @ 3570mhz, 1:1 ratio w RAM, what's the Dream backdown?

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February 25, 2008 11:38:03 AM

hey, i got my e6320 up to 510fsb = 3570mhz, and ram = 510 also (1:1). i wanna back it down, cuz it seems wrong 2 run my little chip at such great heights. So, what's your Dream backdown? any comments on where would be Koolest place to land down 2? cummon :ange: 

fyi/ idle is at 37c, system = 48c, and at load, i only used tat so far, 60% test, and system stays at 48c, other temps at 51c. keep it, or move 2 a new location (and find myself a home)?
February 25, 2008 9:10:37 PM

hey, up 2 dater. i used occt for 30min test at 7x490, 'stable' it said. i ran orthos for 4 tests, 16min each, 1hrs+, and perfect. temps were around 57c testing (both appls), and so it looks like i run e6320 at 3430mhz, 37c idle. backdown would be, then, from benched 515fsb, down 2 490fsb, where it seems pretty good right now. yahoo.
February 26, 2008 8:00:31 PM

hi. just checking in, to say how it's turned out 4 now. since i use htpc, i decided on 400x7 = 2.8ghz w/ ddr2 800 @ 4-4-4-12. my temps are at 33c idle, and 43c load. this is the cool place 2 be 4 now, so, u know, where's a guy sposed 2 be? cheers, tom L.
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February 26, 2008 8:27:52 PM

From 3570MHz and now to 2800MHz? That's amusing.
February 26, 2008 8:58:12 PM

hey, hiya. well, remember that focus is on htpc, and the mp3 visualization in media center is so cool now. feel free 2 name any reason to oc higher. cheers, tom.
February 26, 2008 9:00:20 PM

oh, btw/ u know i run a ga-p35-ds3r rev 1.0, and at 400fsb my corsair xms2 6400c4 is at cool 800, so wtf, yahoo.
February 26, 2008 9:02:18 PM

Nope, there isn't any reason to OC further, unless you play games on your htpc.
February 26, 2008 9:50:45 PM

Love 2 hear from the great enthusiasts at Tom'sHW. pls, i must say: i love my e6320 cpu, i love my p35-ds2r mobo, i love my btf90 zerotherm hsf, i love my corsair twin2x10246400c4 ddr2 800ram, i love my antec NeoHE 550w modular psu, i love my sapphire hd 3850 256k card, i love my good dvd burner, i love my lg dvd rom drive, i love my 2 zalman fan controllers (it's so quiet here), i love my wd2500ks hdd & samsung sp2004c 200gb hdd & beyondMicro 250gb ext hdd, i love my logitech 710 keyboard & mousie, i love my viewsonic vx2025wm 20" ws display, i love my belkin dvi cable, i love my hauppauge hvr-1600 atsc/ntsc digital tv tuner & ms remote, i love vista home prem, i love my creative 2.0 & logitech 2.1 speakers, i love my outdoor digital tv antennae (that i mounted on my landlady's fence), i love my ota free digital tv stations comin in, i love the internet (i hope this doesn't sound like a john lennon song), and i love high speed internet, which wasn't available when i learned pc's, and so i had 2 stay away for 20 years. god bless America, and all the good people, both here & there. salud.
February 27, 2008 12:08:03 AM

hey, u know, i posted that 3570mhz was happening. well, listen, for certainty, that got dropped to 3500mhz, the, for 2 be sure, 3430mhz. as i said, i've put it at 2.8ghz, but, beside the point. the topic here is, using this just said note, from 3430mhz, all stable & good temps/idle & load/ what backdown would u do, if it were u, or leave it at 3430mhz? if u were 2 use it 4 your 'trip', what'd u do from 3430mhz? i'd love some imagin on this, cuz it seems like fun to trip on. e6320 is an ok chip, p35-ds3r does good, the hsf & ram perform really good, so for gaming, or whatever, what would u do from 3430mhz? i'd hope to hear some ideas, so we're 'enlightened' from where we already think? cummon.... tom L. oh, btw/ i use lian li case (a $100 mainstream one / i forget the #/ it's like #9 or something/ from newegg.) ciao.
February 27, 2008 12:12:15 AM

What do you mean by 'trip'? If I had it at 3430MHz, I'd first check if the temps are below 65C during Prime95 small FFT and check that the NB temps aren't too high. If that is so, I'd keep it at those settings.
February 27, 2008 12:24:46 AM

cool, mr. evilonigiri, thanks 4 2 post on it. trip i use like a 60's term, the sort of ongoing experience you're on, like, if you're on a heavy gaming 'trip', or me, a htpc trip/ mp3's, some tv, mjblige video at mtv, like that, my 'trip'. (i like to see what's modern/what's now, cuz i'm fallin behind). well, i ran it at 3430mhz for 4 routines/ 16 minutes each/ on orthos, 1hrs+, and it did fine. i don't know how 2 check nb temps/ probably they're ok. i think i said that at 3430mhz, it was idle 37c, and on orthos & occt, 57c. my copper butterfly zerotherm btf90 rocks. so, pls sir, along this line, is it that u'd game w/ this chip/e6320? pls, if so, an example, like try for cod at a certain # of fps? pls, say, an example. u know, i read so many video card reviews, and they all crank it on the settings, and want so many fps on this or that game, i like to hear about what an enthusiast would do, w/, a given situation, like e6320 @ 3430mhz, we can say stable (occt does.) the card here is sapphire 3850 256k. go on, dude. say.
February 27, 2008 12:32:12 AM

i forgot 2 say, by check nb temps, do u mean like system temp on speedfan? i should've put earlier, i love my SpeedFan.
February 27, 2008 12:33:39 AM

Thanks for the explanation for the word 'trip'. You're way past my time, good sir.

Running Orthos small FFT for 16min with 4 rounds is NOT enough. You must let it run for at least 6hours before deemed stable. People had their system fail at 23hours of continuously running Orthos. I'd advise you to download Coretemp to monitor your core temps and run Orthos small FFT over night.

That being said, if you system is truly stable, you will see an increase in fps in some games. A game like COD4, you won't see much gain because the game itself isn't very cpu intensive. I'd suspect a 5-10fps gain though. With that video card and the OCed cpu on all high settings, no AA or AF, on a res of 1280x1024, I'd fully expect 40fps avg.

Games that are cpu intensive, such as Supreme Commander, you should see a very decent gain, provided that you have enough RAM.
February 27, 2008 12:48:22 AM

hi. i run on 1680x1050 res on my 20" ws. would u adjust the res, for the gaming experience u mention? i usually see 3 set resolutions, when video cards are tested, like 1280x1024, 1600x1200, and a lower one. w/ my 20", would u set the res at 1280x1024? and, if at 1280x1024, u'd expect 2 see cod4 do 40fps avg.? what about 1/2 life, like the one i got left here? would halfLife be very cpu intensive? i see halfLife often 1st named in video card reviews? is it cpu intensive? is f.e.a.r. weird? i mean, i heard that no 2 experiences are ever the same in fear. it was said, cuz they could do like a string comparison in that game, as they could do w/ most other games? fear has a cool face for showing. btw/ i usually wake up around 1a.m., and fk around all night w/ my pc. i guess i could stick in a few hours of orthos test. what does the fft mean in the name? i see 1024k string tested in routine1, then 8k & 10k strings/ starting w/ M/ used in routines 2&3, and 4 has 868 about length string, what's the fft, pls? i saw that the string types were like mr. L & L, something like that. i just nuked orthos an hour ago, but i could get it back. hope 2 hear some more. tom L.
February 27, 2008 12:54:47 AM

i meant to say that w/ fear game, they couldn't do a string test, the guy said, cuz no 2 experiences were the same. so they said that, w/ it like that, u couldn't use any string of fear 4 2 compare 2 a next run of it, which a string would be used 4 repeated testing commonly, w/ a variety of games usually.
February 27, 2008 12:57:10 AM



As you can see, under "Test:" there's a drop down menu. Select Small FFTs - stress cpu. That's probably the default anyways.

The games you mentioned are not all very cpu intensive. Perhaps Half-life, but not very. At the resolution of 1600x1200, your 3850 256MB may tank, since there's not enough Vram. You should have at least 512MB of Vram for that resoultion.

Here's a link that shows what to expect: http://www.firingsquad.com/hardware/sapphire_radeon_hd_... Hit 'next', there's more benchmarks on games you listed.
February 27, 2008 1:08:39 AM

i see it. i will consider to go back 2 that 3430 oc at some later time. remember, now i'm a happy camper at 2.8ghz. i'm gonna try 2 turn on c1e & eist speedstep, cuz it was recommended after 2 find a landing place. i'll go there on that firingsquad link u put up. oh, remember, would u tune down my 20" res from 1680x1050 to 1280x1024 for 2 play a game? pls say/ i never do hear of gaming at 1680x1050, but it's my favorite monitor size. i hope displayport make a 20" 1080p monitor available/ probably they could reach 2 there/ cuz in a year, a blu-ray dvd-rom drive could be had 4 $100. my card has 10.1 dx, so i'm looking forward 2 sp1 vista. i want other things too, like some appls won't run now, but probably they will w/ sp1. ho.
February 27, 2008 1:12:43 AM

No, I wouldn't tune down the res. Just don't enable AA or AF if you're experiencing stuttering.

Another viable solution to getting more performance is OCing the video card. You may try this if you're experiencing poor game play.
February 27, 2008 1:57:03 AM

hi. i see your post. sorry, but my att dsl is so damm slow tonight, i need 10 minutes for a page 2 display. i gotta run up 2 the store now, the girls here want coffee & coke.
February 27, 2008 6:23:07 AM

hey. just passing by. i looked at some of those reports on gpu performance at firingsquad link, i seen quite some of those kinds. btw/ it seems that the g92 chip is such a horse, that it can't do hardly much at all unless, it needs 2 have the 512ram most for sure. anyway, about those appls, i see the reports for some time. i can only see that, for instance, the ati cards can bench cool, but fall back in the gaming reports. so, about fear, did u hear that it has a special unique quality, in that u can't take a recorded string of gameplay, and measure next-time-thru experience against it w/ fear, cuz, they said, each experience in fear is totally unique, from any other time, so it can't ever compare 2 before. heard anything such as that? curious. there was a cool pic there, at that firingsquad link, of a ship, maybe ww2, getting 'tanked' by a Hunter/ i think it said wolf too? it looked cool, i might like 2 play w/ that game, wrecking cargo ships in the sea. the colors were spacey.
February 27, 2008 6:25:54 AM

oh, u mention to oc the video card. i never did that. i have catalyst suite 8.2, but i just use it 2 see my gpu % use, and same temp. it has slide bars 4 2 tweak the chip mhz & ram speed, i think that's mostly it, yeah, tweak the gpu freq and ram speeds?
February 27, 2008 12:14:11 PM

ho. even though i'm at the said 2.8ghz, and this thread is about 'what would u do coming down from 3570mhz', i just ran orthos in the night for 4hrs5min, and it tested fine. so, if 2 back on up 2 3430mhz, it would probably test ok/ btw.
February 28, 2008 1:33:20 AM

tommmm111 said:
oh, u mention to oc the video card. i never did that. i have catalyst suite 8.2, but i just use it 2 see my gpu % use, and same temp. it has slide bars 4 2 tweak the chip mhz & ram speed, i think that's mostly it, yeah, tweak the gpu freq and ram speeds?

There's a guide here on how to OC. You should review it before doing anything.
February 28, 2008 1:34:37 AM

tommmm111 said:
ho. even though i'm at the said 2.8ghz, and this thread is about 'what would u do coming down from 3570mhz', i just ran orthos in the night for 4hrs5min, and it tested fine. so, if 2 back on up 2 3430mhz, it would probably test ok/ btw.

While it may be fine for 2.8GHz, it may not be fine for 3.43GHz. Make sure you keep your eye on those temps.
February 28, 2008 2:17:41 AM

hi, mr. Evilonigiri, good day 2 u. fyi/ my eye on the temps is my main thing, cuz i love cool run, and quiet place. also, fyi/ i never intend to oc my video card (cuz, remember, i'm an htpc hommie). if i sound like a dangerous dud, then, fear not, cuz i wouldn't light out half-cocked, to jolt my video card. btw/ that link u provided, for those oh-so-common shown bar grafffffs of pc gamer scores, there was a cool pic on the side, might be i said this already, a cargo ship in the sea, out there, was listing a bit 2 the side, and i think they reported that the Silent Hunter had bonked him 1, maybe even hit him a 'tanker'. 2 b sure, that was a cool pic. i think the word wolf was mentioned too? i like the sea, and 'tanking' a cargo ship, then running over the floating passengers, the ones in the water after, running them down, even at high fps, ooooohhhhhh. i knew this guy in taiwan, china, who had fought in the army against the japs, when japan had invaded china, like in '39, and he had a tank commander job (tho for sure, he said he wasn't good at it), and, vassilli was his name, he said he would just aim at the infantry invaders, and mow at em, to crush down (the enemy). lots of the video games are to crush down the enemy, yeah? i think to crush floating would-be survivors from a hit enemy cargo ship would be cool/ like, how many can u crush in 'x' amount of time. anyway, i'm not gonna increase/alter my video card. take care, tom L.
February 28, 2008 2:18:45 AM

didn't i post, that, my temps at orthos & occt from 3430 tests were around 57c? well, it's that way, yeah.
February 28, 2008 2:21:29 AM

i saw some reviews, on hsf, i think at Tom's, and there was 1, msi water cooling i think, i saw it on sale on the net, and i thought, they are having a Liquidation Sale, lol.
February 28, 2008 2:25:59 AM

tommmm111 said:
didn't i post, that, my temps at orthos & occt from 3430 tests were around 57c? well, it's that way, yeah.

Yeah but I clearly read that you only stressed it for 16mins each run for 4 runs straight. Oh well, no matter.
February 28, 2008 2:27:02 AM

tommmm111 said:
hi, mr. Evilonigiri, good day 2 u. fyi/ my eye on the temps is my main thing, cuz i love cool run, and quiet place. also, fyi/ i never intend to oc my video card (cuz, remember, i'm an htpc hommie). if i sound like a dangerous dud, then, fear not, cuz i wouldn't light out half-cocked, to jolt my video card. btw/ that link u provided, for those oh-so-common shown bar grafffffs of pc gamer scores, there was a cool pic on the side, might be i said this already, a cargo ship in the sea, out there, was listing a bit 2 the side, and i think they reported that the Silent Hunter had bonked him 1, maybe even hit him a 'tanker'. 2 b sure, that was a cool pic. i think the word wolf was mentioned too? i like the sea, and 'tanking' a cargo ship, then running over the floating passengers, the ones in the water after, running them down, even at high fps, ooooohhhhhh. i knew this guy in taiwan, china, who had fought in the army against the japs, when japan had invaded china, like in '39, and he had a tank commander job (tho for sure, he said he wasn't good at it), and, vassilli was his name, he said he would just aim at the infantry invaders, and mow at em, to crush down (the enemy). lots of the video games are to crush down the enemy, yeah? i think to crush floating would-be survivors from a hit enemy cargo ship would be cool/ like, how many can u crush in 'x' amount of time. anyway, i'm not gonna increase/alter my video card. take care, tom L.

Nostalgia? :??: 
February 28, 2008 2:53:20 AM

i think it might not be clear... i ran orthos for 1 hour, and let it go 5 minutes more, until it had completed the test it was on. i do remember that each test was 16 minutes, so i guess that makes 1hrs+5min. anyway, i found out, that the default test on orthos is cpu & ram testing/mixed, so when u said 2 test on the small fft strings, that was for cpu only, and i ran that for 4+ hours, in the night, at 2.8ghz. it ran swell, and my temps were around 47c, that was cool. if i ever go back 2 3430mhz, to check out some different approach, i probably could do a bit better, but if it tested there/3430mhz/ w/ 57c temps, for 65 min., then that sounds ok. u know, u say Nostalgia, 2 b sure, i don't really know too good what it means, that word. Nost/ is built off of 'ours', like italian or Christian Nostra Dame(a), 'Our Lady', so i guess it would be fondly remembering something that included more than 1 person, like ones self/ for instance. gotta go.
February 28, 2008 3:03:11 AM

tommmm111 said:
i think it might not be clear... i ran orthos for 1 hour, and let it go 5 minutes more, until it had completed the test it was on. i do remember that each test was 16 minutes, so i guess that makes 1hrs+5min. anyway, i found out, that the default test on orthos is cpu & ram testing/mixed, so when u said 2 test on the small fft strings, that was for cpu only, and i ran that for 4+ hours, in the night, at 2.8ghz. it ran swell, and my temps were around 47c, that was cool. if i ever go back 2 3430mhz, to check out some different approach, i probably could do a bit better, but if it tested there/3430mhz/ w/ 57c temps, for 65 min., then that sounds ok. u know, u say Nostalgia, 2 b sure, i don't really know too good what it means, that word. Nost/ is built off of 'ours', like italian or Christian Nostra Dame(a), 'Our Lady', so i guess it would be fondly remembering something that included more than 1 person, like ones self/ for instance. gotta go.

Yeah, your system is good.

Nostalgia is that desire or feeling to return to the past. It's like something good you remembered in the past and you really want to go back and enjoy it again.
February 28, 2008 8:48:46 AM

hey, what happened (who turned off the lights?). i don't want 2 return 2 the past, no, not at all. youth is a curse, like something that always wanting 2 breakout. i wanna tank the cargo ships, the ones of the enemy, there on the high seas. u don't say if, whether or not, u saw that pic, on the firingsquad link where u showed to the bar graphs (of F.E.A.R.). the ship looked cool, did u see it? i think someone was already on it, it was, like, listing abit toward the side, like it got hit. it wuz probably, a game, u know, w/ a cool pic like that. hey, i'm thinking 2 start a new thread, on 'do u want 2 get displayport?'. i think many people will want 2 get it. my sapphire card, 3850, has the 10.1 dx support, so i look forward 2 sp1 better graphics. already i think the view here is so cool, sp1 will be better. i got a 20" sharp hdtv, about xmas 2006, and it is cool, the light makes colors so wow. but, u know, it doesn't have the resolution like pc. if displayport can make equal 2 appear on the pc, we're great, and free, for sure, of needing the home electronics world. i think displayport will bring 1080p 2 the 20" display, too. i saw yesterday, a 17" w/ 1440x900 res. i'd like 2 have a thread 2 talk about displayport. dell has that 2408 monitor already w/ dport, i saw it at twaektown, but they said dell's site had it now, tho i can't never see it there. anyway, belkin is sposed 2 put out a dport cable in april. so, maybe that means, we're close 2 seeing the stuff? well, about nostalgia, the closest i could say, is that i'd like 2 go back in time, 2 israel, and be able to sit around w/ Jesus. i bet He was a fantastic guy 2 see?
February 28, 2008 8:53:44 AM

i see u have same mobo as me, but u got the 'c' ver., yet u don't show 2 run ddr2 8500. i guess we got a good board. the ultra durable stuff makes 4 good cooling, i think i like good cooling, and the resulting quiet, as favorite thing. what's your psu? i decided i like antec (god, i tried so many). thermaltake was pretty cool (i liked it.)
February 28, 2008 9:03:51 AM

i had a evga 8800gts card 320mb, but i heard the new 8800gt was coming out soon, and would tank the 320 88 card, so i slipped it back 2 newegg, on a rma, cuz it was only like, 12 days old. i wuz lucky on that, the 8800gt had heat issues, people said, and i hate 2 see, on system or cpu, in speedfan, the little 50c fire marks. 4 this reason, i waited 2 see the talked about, 2 come, ati cards, cuz i like them in the past, and my card is cool, but i had issues recently w/ .net framework 2.0 file, and catalyst software wouldn't display (remember i only use it 2 see my gpu temp & how much % in use), so w/out ccc software, i said 'forget these guys.' next time, like when dport comes, i'm goin 2 nvidia, and i don't know if i'll use ati. one guy on the forums said that catalyst was the 2nd worst software out there, next 2 ntune (i think that's nvidia). so, i'll get, like the 9600gt card, w/ the 512mb, the 1 that just came out, but w/ displayport connector. my belkin dvi cable (it cost $65. but i got it at amazon from someones opened rma, for only $8.50), my belkin dvi cable is kickass/ it works so good. it's true that the cable does make a difference, but i had a monster cable dvi, and it was just ok (i got it nerds for about $7.). maybe it was a bad batch?
February 28, 2008 9:23:26 PM

tommmm111 said:
i see u have same mobo as me, but u got the 'c' ver., yet u don't show 2 run ddr2 8500. i guess we got a good board. the ultra durable stuff makes 4 good cooling, i think i like good cooling, and the resulting quiet, as favorite thing. what's your psu? i decided i like antec (god, i tried so many). thermaltake was pretty cool (i liked it.)

The 'C' part means I have DDR3 slots as well as DDR2 slots. This hybrid has caused issue for some people, hopefully it won't for me.

My PSU is a OCZ GamerXstreme 700W PSU. It gets loud when under load.
February 28, 2008 9:28:01 PM

tommmm111 said:
i had a evga 8800gts card 320mb, but i heard the new 8800gt was coming out soon, and would tank the 320 88 card, so i slipped it back 2 newegg, on a rma, cuz it was only like, 12 days old. i wuz lucky on that, the 8800gt had heat issues, people said, and i hate 2 see, on system or cpu, in speedfan, the little 50c fire marks. 4 this reason, i waited 2 see the talked about, 2 come, ati cards, cuz i like them in the past, and my card is cool, but i had issues recently w/ .net framework 2.0 file, and catalyst software wouldn't display (remember i only use it 2 see my gpu temp & how much % in use), so w/out ccc software, i said 'forget these guys.' next time, like when dport comes, i'm goin 2 nvidia, and i don't know if i'll use ati. one guy on the forums said that catalyst was the 2nd worst software out there, next 2 ntune (i think that's nvidia). so, i'll get, like the 9600gt card, w/ the 512mb, the 1 that just came out, but w/ displayport connector. my belkin dvi cable (it cost $65. but i got it at amazon from someones opened rma, for only $8.50), my belkin dvi cable is kickass/ it works so good. it's true that the cable does make a difference, but i had a monster cable dvi, and it was just ok (i got it nerds for about $7.). maybe it was a bad batch?

I never had an ATI card, but imo the really short warranties all the ATI companies offers means something.

If you want a new vidcard, you should wait for the 10series. I don't think going from a Hd3850 to a 9600GT is worth it.
February 28, 2008 9:39:22 PM

hi. i know the c is 4 ddr3, i thought maybe u got that for 1066 jedec ram, which should go better than ddr2 1066ram. i only wondered why u had the c model, but your ram is at 700, so i thought it would be like mine, ddr2 800ram. i like what u said, & btw/ these sapphire cards rock/ the display is very accurate & pretty. i won't quit my card 4 a 9600gt, tho i like that new nvidia card/ also it has 512vram, but i don't need it. maybe, as u say, the 10 series, will have some new & modern stuff, like dx 10.1 & displayport/ i already said i'm super jazzed on the idea of hidef displyport.
February 28, 2008 9:45:20 PM

tommmm111 said:
hi. i know the c is 4 ddr3, i thought maybe u got that for 1066 jedec ram, which should go better than ddr2 1066ram. i only wondered why u had the c model, but your ram is at 700, so i thought it would be like mine, ddr2 800ram. i like what u said, & btw/ these sapphire cards rock/ the display is very accurate & pretty. i won't quit my card 4 a 9600gt, tho i like that new nvidia card/ also it has 512vram, but i don't need it. maybe, as u say, the 10 series, will have some new & modern stuff, like dx 10.1 & displayport/ i already said i'm super jazzed on the idea of hidef displyport.

Yes, you are right, I have the 800MHz ram from Patriot. I was going to lower the timings, but I'm got lazy.
February 28, 2008 10:16:16 PM

lower the timings? u said at 4-4-4-12, yeah? isn't that cool, already? say what u would lower to.
February 28, 2008 10:19:49 PM

tommmm111 said:
lower the timings? u said at 4-4-4-12, yeah? isn't that cool, already? say what u would lower to.

Heh, I tried lowering it to 3-3-3-10, but it was unstable. I'm planning to try it again.
February 28, 2008 10:44:42 PM

my xms corsair c4 800ram says 'tested at 4-4-4-12', so it could b used likt that. does your patriot-ic 800ram say same?
February 28, 2008 10:55:43 PM

Yes, it's rated at 4-4-4-12, 2.2V, 800MHz.
February 29, 2008 12:00:20 AM

and u can lower it so, as u say, as u pls? i saw specs today on an email ad, pc3200 ram, 400speed, and it was like 3-4-4-13 / or something like that. i never saw in the 3's before.
February 29, 2008 12:03:07 AM

tommmm111 said:
and u can lower it so, as u say, as u pls? i saw specs today on an email ad, pc3200 ram, 400speed, and it was like 3-4-4-13 / or something like that. i never saw in the 3's before.

At lower speeds, it's easier to lower the timings. They have 400MHz with 2-3-3-8 or something. It's as fast as 800MHz with 4-6-6-16, or something like that.
February 29, 2008 12:20:35 AM

hi. your aggressive timings, 3-3-3-10, sound cool. i hope u find some lower #s that r good 4 u. hey, i'm trying/ or working on, to learn those 7 or 8 sub timings. listen, i saw some on the web, so i wrote them down, and compared them w/ mine, in the bios/ in the manual too. funny, i looked up tREAD on the internet, cuz i found one similar, but different, and my search yielded Goodyear tires. it wuz cuz tREAD is what u want 2 b thick on your tire. i hope i don't tire u. p.sp i posted a few minutes ago, and it's not here. it was about some pc3200 400 speed ram w/ 3-4-4 etc. timings. i guess they used 3 timings in the past.
February 29, 2008 12:24:00 AM

now, after i post here, i see u saw my mention of pc3200 ram w/ the 3 timings, well, there's lots of keeping up 2 do at Tom's, so it's ok. i want 2 look into the sub timings. one of them 4 me, is at 42, and i saw it at 10 or 20 elsewhere/ tho w/ a different mobo/ maybe bios different too.
February 29, 2008 12:30:31 AM

tommmm111 said:
hi. your aggressive timings, 3-3-3-10, sound cool. i hope u find some lower #s that r good 4 u. hey, i'm trying/ or working on, to learn those 7 or 8 sub timings. listen, i saw some on the web, so i wrote them down, and compared them w/ mine, in the bios/ in the manual too. funny, i looked up tREAD on the internet, cuz i found one similar, but different, and my search yielded Goodyear tires. it wuz cuz tREAD is what u want 2 b thick on your tire. i hope i don't tire u. p.sp i posted a few minutes ago, and it's not here. it was about some pc3200 400 speed ram w/ 3-4-4 etc. timings. i guess they used 3 timings in the past.

Well, I think we call it tRD instead of tREAD these days.
February 29, 2008 3:42:46 AM

go u know about the sub timings? tell me, cuz your bios has term words same like mine. u can get your timings super cool, by finding out to adjust/ det those nice 7 or 8 sub timings (i got em all writ down.)
March 1, 2008 12:17:33 AM

tommmm111 said:
go u know about the sub timings? tell me, cuz your bios has term words same like mine. u can get your timings super cool, by finding out to adjust/ det those nice 7 or 8 sub timings (i got em all writ down.)

I just adjust the first 4 timings and leave the rest on auto. There's just too many, and I doubt it will make a large difference by changing the other 3 or 4 timings compared to just changing the first 4.
March 1, 2008 1:38:02 AM

u know, i saw those 7 or 8 sub timings set cool. look at the graysky oc guide, Tom's has it. he set the sub timings 4 the lower 7 or 8 settings to very different timings than my p35-ds3r bios f11. 1 of my timings down there is set to 42, but graysky has them at mostly 10 w possibly a 20 setting. i bet it's cool. i'm gonna look into it.
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