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3800: Tom's, Anandtech's, and Firing Squad's Review

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November 15, 2007 11:19:18 AM

tom: http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34861/118/
anandtech: http://anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3151
firingsquad: http://firingsquad.com/hardware/amd_rv670_performance_p...

All whom I consider reputable sources.

I'm not going to say I'm disappointed because quantity doesn't equal quality, but it seems like tom was caught with his pants down on this one. I was expecting a 19 pager. =P

So, who is getting the 8800GT or the 3800s?
a c 195 U Graphics card
November 15, 2007 12:02:57 PM

Well, I've been trying to get an 8800GT for at least a week without success. My suspicion is that I will instead be able to grab a 3870 and be very happy with it.
November 15, 2007 12:48:43 PM

firingsquad review shows that there are still lot of problems with AA AF performance for ATI cards, without that, results are tigher (still 8800GT performs a little better)
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November 15, 2007 1:34:42 PM

Well, I just orderd 2x3870 $239.99ea for a crossfire setup, will let you know how it turns out.

I'm going to say, hoping ATI can increase peformance with their immature drivers.



November 15, 2007 1:37:03 PM

How well does 3850 oc? If we can get it to 777 on the core, will it be on par with 3870?
November 15, 2007 1:49:46 PM

Um where did you order it? I see Newegg, Zipzoomfly, and some other major U.S. retailers doesn't have it...

EDIT: Just ordered a hd3870 at NCIXUS though I really wanted 8800GT.
November 15, 2007 2:01:23 PM

As I see it and from what I have heard and seen then 8800GT is what ~15 - maybe 20% average better than the 3870? If we hold that as true and give the benefit of the doubt that a few driver revisions may close this game to lets say 10% decrease in performance. I say that with the slightly lower price, only 10% less performance, but the 3870 runs more quiet, temps and power are similar...though usually slightly in favor of AMD. The card itself has more features...sure DX10.1 is nice, but who needs that now anyways...but still a good marketing tool for them. The features im more interested in are the HDMI converter for my HD TV that would be nice to play around with. The card should be better in video encoding/decoding and AMD needs the money to stay afloat. If the availability of 8800GT's changes by X-mas then this decision will be harder for me, but if they are still hard pressed and slightly higher priced then they need to be then I wont be waiting for them and will just grab me a 3870 and im sure it will be alot better than my X1900XTX. Hopefully no disappointments for me. lol, man everything i just said seems to be really scrambled...sry about that...no sleep after my huge exam i just had.

Best,

3Ball
November 15, 2007 2:27:04 PM

im def. getting the 8800GT ...since i got a pre-order for only 250$ on release day...which is $10 more than Radeon 3870 ($240) ...yet about on average 15% better in games....that and the fact I like to use graphic cards for 3-4 years...so I want LIFETIME warranty! (had a bad experience with ATI in the past...)

- For anyone that got a 8800GT for less than $250....they got the best deal imo..before the pricing went up....but as of now...with current prices...8800GT begin at lows around $270 and 3870 being $240...and the fact that supply is low on the 8800GT....taking all that into account...i think its pretty equal...either seems fine to me.Though, i perfer Nvidia these days.
November 15, 2007 2:59:17 PM

amdwilliam1985 said:
How well does 3850 oc? If we can get it to 777 on the core, will it be on par with 3870?


It says in the reviews mate. 3850 goes up to a 3870 with overclocking. Pretty good value I'd say.
November 15, 2007 3:57:26 PM

Hmm..I am so very confused now.

At this point in time, I can either get the 8800GT(semi-oc(660MHz) no backorder) for 259.99 or I can get the the 3870 for 239.99(no backorder).

I will be ordering my system this weekend because I don't feel that there will be a grand amount of discounts Black Friday/Cyber Monday and I want to get my order in before the masses.

Of course less monjey out of my pocket is good, but does anyone have an opinon of which I should get? I don't plan on SLI or OCing it past factory.

Thanks,
-Adam
November 15, 2007 4:02:27 PM

but don't you think guys that nvidia can optimize their drivers for 8800gt and make it even faster?
November 15, 2007 4:04:53 PM

I think that the drivers for the 8800GT are pretty highly done. I don't think too much more optimization can be done with those. I may be wrong, though.
November 15, 2007 4:21:57 PM

I think one place many people are forgetting they can get the 8800GT at is BestBuy. I know 3 differnt ones near me that have it in stock. And they have it at the MSRP. Beats paying the beefed up prices of the online retailers atm and most of the online ones are out of stock.
November 15, 2007 4:33:39 PM

Thinking of getting 2 x 3870 OC, but havent excluded 2 x 8800GT silent editions, if I could manage getting them (wont go for warranty voiding 3rd party coolers).
November 15, 2007 4:49:26 PM

marike said:
I think one place many people are forgetting they can get the 8800GT at is BestBuy. I know 3 differnt ones near me that have it in stock. And they have it at the MSRP. Beats paying the beefed up prices of the online retailers atm and most of the online ones are out of stock.


Ssssshh, don't tell everyone - they'll buy them all :non: 
November 15, 2007 5:26:33 PM

I kinda have a thing against best buy. <.< >.>
a c 147 U Graphics card
November 15, 2007 5:31:09 PM

aadamszc said:

I'm not going to say I'm disappointed because quantity doesn't equal quality, but it seems like tom was caught with his pants down on this one. I was expecting a 19 pager. =P

So, who is getting the 8800GT or the 3800s?


ASK and you shall recieve: Tom just posted a 20 Pager

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/11/15/amd_radeon_hd_38...


I'm getting neither, I am waiting for the next batch... well since ATI doesnt seem to offer a next one other than dual GPU I guess we will see what nVidia does with the G92 8800GTS. Hopefully the low priced ATI's give some compeitition to nVidia.
November 15, 2007 9:07:45 PM

qmalik said:
im def. getting the 8800GT ...since i got a pre-order for only 250$ on release day...which is $10 more than Radeon 3870 ($240) ...yet about on average 15% better in games....that and the fact I like to use graphic cards for 3-4 years...so I want LIFETIME warranty! (had a bad experience with ATI in the past...)

- For anyone that got a 8800GT for less than $250....they got the best deal imo..before the pricing went up....but as of now...with current prices...8800GT begin at lows around $270 and 3870 being $240...and the fact that supply is low on the 8800GT....taking all that into account...i think its pretty equal...either seems fine to me.Though, i perfer Nvidia these days.

you can get them for 219 dollars at newegg if you are in the U.S.
November 15, 2007 9:18:37 PM

I'll be waiting till the new year to do my rebuild and I'll be getting a GF8800GT, even though it's 20 pounds more than the HD3870 here in the UK.

Like aznstriker92 I like to keep hold of my cards for a while. My XFX 6800GT has lasted me nearly 3 years without a hitch. My Powercolor Radeon 9800Pro prior to that died within 6 months. I'm no nVidia fanboi but they do tend to make more robust cards.

!