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Building a SLI 8800GT C2D rig, plz help

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November 6, 2007 2:54:46 PM

Hi, once again I am wanting to build another gaming rig. the stipulations are:
1.) I cannot go over $1,500 dollars (Give or take $100).
2.) Best value/price
3.) quality.
4.) SLI 8800GT and an Intel rig

This is what I have research so far. Now there are a lot of tweaking and refining that could/needs to be done so this is no way a final draft. This is to allow me to have an idea of what I want to include into my system. Now I am experienced in PC building but I still need advice and a different view point. Thank you for all your help and input.

so far... (this is with reference of newegg.com)

C2D: E6750 - $194.99
ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - $64.99
2x EVGA 512-P3-N805-A1 GeForce 8800GT KO 512MB - $309.99 x2=$619.98
Antec P182 Gun Metal Black - $149.99
Update CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) - $170.00
2x Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb - 2x=$159.98
I have not included a DVD burner nor the Motherboard and PSU
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Total - $1,359.93

Now my system should go over 1500 dollar limit even with the 100 give or take but this is why I need y'alls advince and help. Also Mail in rebates (though never a fan for them) are accepted.

I hope that I am not asking the impossible, but I will refer back here to post any other findings as I research this.

November 6, 2007 3:52:27 PM

The PC Power and Cooling 610w Silencer bought from their homepage for $119 is a great deal and should provide enough power.

You will also need an 680i Mobo which has true duel x16 slots.
The i650 has duel x8 which is close to what the 8800GT will put out so I would go for the higher board. This will likely run you $150 (or more) w/o a price check. Add in a DVD burner for $30 and you are looking at $300 in additions for Mobo, PSU, and Burner.

You have a couple options.

1) Start with a single 8800GT and add a second later.

2) Wait about two weeks for the 8800GT to come down in price for a savings of about $50 per card or $100 total. You can save almost $100 by getting high quality DDR2-800 that should still let you OC to close to 3.6Ghz. You could get a cheaper CPU to start like the E2160 and upgrade in Q1 2008 to a Penryn. This would save $100 now. I presume you are going to try RAID-0 so you can't easily add a second drive later. If the second drive is for backups, or software installations, you could also just add this later as well.
November 6, 2007 4:25:17 PM

Yeah start with one 8800GT and add the second later...good call zenmaster. Your motherboard will be at least $200 if you want the rig to be stable and futureproof.

Perhaps you can get a cheap intel CPU and upgrade to the new yorkfield?
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November 6, 2007 4:42:52 PM

Thank you for your replies. About the 8800GT price, I agree completely, by the time we have a close to finished rig I expect the price to have dropped around 50 dollars. Also on the same note it is rumored that the new G92 8800GTS will be coming out around December 3. Should I wait for them, I think not to due to the fact that they will be well over priced the expected price.

Also about overclocking, I plan to use this system at stock speeds (I have never OC before and dont want to udntil the rig is showing its age in a couple o years). That is why I wanted the 1066MHz DDR2 cause I was told that qaulity over quantity with RAM. Maybe this is not true, does any one have any benchmarks or charts that will show the difference between the 800 DDR2RAM with the other higher speed RAM? Maybe the difference in performance doesn't justify the difference in price.

I know that the 780i are postponed until later (I can't remember when), and so will it be worth the wait for the SLI 780i with PCIe x16 2.0 or should I just go for the 680i SLI?

I thank you for all your input, I don't expect to make this rig asap, but hopefully within a month or so. So please feel free to critique anything and everything, and discuse your thoughts and feelings about the Hardware. Also if anyone has any reliable rumors or sources of new hardware and if its worth the wait? If so please post.
November 6, 2007 5:29:24 PM

The 6x50 intel processors run at a FSB of 1333 (aka 333), which corresponds to ddr2-667 memory.

With current Intel systems, overclocking is the main reason to buy faster memory. Given the lack of a price disparity between ddr2-667 and ddr2-800, most people recommend ddr2-800 unless you are overclocking. Faster memory in intel systems does not correspond to large increases in real world benchmarks.

The availability of the new 8800gts and the radeon 3800 will stabilize demand for the 8800gt. That's the middle of this month, IIRC.

I know little about the 780i, except that it has tri-sli capability, and perhaps will be out around mid-nov also.
November 6, 2007 6:09:51 PM

If I was looking at a major upgrade I'd probably keep saving till january when the new stuff is out and I can either get the new stuff or get last gen stuff at reduced rate.

Yorktown, 780i, 8800gts(version2) good things comming out in next couple months.
November 6, 2007 9:58:17 PM

and as always feel free to critique or ask for my reason of choosing this config.
November 6, 2007 11:31:22 PM

One thing to keep in mind about the 8800gt is that rumors are, it pumps out quite a bit of heat. Add two of them and the problem only gets worse. So it's possible you could end up with heat problems with two of those puppies in there. I'm not saying it will, but it's something to consider.
November 7, 2007 1:30:31 AM

this is similar toi what I am planning, but for the same price I am considering the Q6600. I also am going to use the G.Skill DDR2 PC800 and a Corsair 620HX PSU.
November 7, 2007 7:16:29 PM

Ok, with the research done so far and if the future is clear I have so far thought that the following would be a good build with the Video card left out for now (due to it being impossible to find). So what money is leftover will go towards the evga superclocked 8800GT.


Antec P182 Gun Metal Black 0.8mm cold rolled steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - $139.99 (+$30 MIR)

Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - $79.99

SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor - $319.99 (+$20MIR)

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply - $89.99 (+$10MIR)


Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804 - $89.99 (+$40MIR)

EVGA 122-CK-NF63-TR LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard - $159.99

ntel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750 - $194.99

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler - $64.99

Subtotal: $1,139.92
after MIR: $1,019.92

Tell me what you think plz.
November 7, 2007 7:17:06 PM

sorry the samsung has a $40MIR
November 7, 2007 8:04:31 PM

Honestly, if you live in the USA go buy a monitor on black friday. You can find decent monitors for dirt cheap usually at Best buy, staples, or anywhere that sells them. Im gonna be picking up a decent monitor myself for a future system i build in a number of months. If its a super good deal you usually have to wait in line ot get one jsut a fyi.
November 7, 2007 8:35:21 PM

I personally would get the samsung 226CW over the BW. 2 @ 2Gb of memory would be much better for today and easy to add another 2Gb tomorrow. If the budget if tight, start with one 2Gb DIMM.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Of course, just an opinion .. otherwise .. looks like a great system
November 8, 2007 2:55:05 PM

Thank you for all the input, my next concern is if my PSU -OCZ stealthXstream will be enough power for my C2D and SLI 8800GT?
November 9, 2007 1:03:17 PM

I am worried that my PSU will not be able to support 2x 8800GT (evga KO's) in sli p[lus a e6750 (and to OC when the time comes). Maybe I need to go with something higher such as the OCZ GameXstream line, though I would rather keep it froogle. But If it is a chance of killing my system then I will drop the current PSU - StealthXstream 600w.
November 9, 2007 2:07:31 PM

Do you already had the cards? I know that zipzoomfly.com was selling the XFX 8800GTs for $250 with free shipping. That is a much better deal then the eVga cards. I think you should at least go for the 700Watt GameXstream. ZZF has the 700 Watt for $126 shipped plus a $25 MIR.

So:
OCZ GameXstream 700 $101 shipped
2x XFX 8800GT $500 shipped
November 9, 2007 2:38:09 PM

TSIMonster, I looked on zipzoomfly and I didnt see any XFX 8800GT. I lloked on Buy.com though and there was an XFX 8800GT for 273$ and free shipping.TVH, maybe you should consider buying from them. I always tend to look on the less publicized sites like www.ncixus.com and www.buy.com instead of www.newegg.com or www.tigerdirect.com.

Hope it helps,
November 10, 2007 4:01:12 PM

And the saga continues... (you like that? I thought it was clever)

First I want to thank everyone on TH Forums and this thread. For the last 4-5 days I have, literally, spent 2-3 hours on the forums and newegg and google to research and create a new gaming rig. I've learned a lot lately about PSUs, SLI, Case Mods, etc...

Right now I am still worrying about my decisions to go SLI or not, (I have another thread in the Video Card section: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/246064-33-false-truth#t1760088). Not only that but 'IF' I were to go SLI, then my PSU question rises. Should I stay with the OCZ 700w which is certified SLI for 8800GT (www.slizone.com)? I would really like a modular PSU due to that fact that the P180 family are a little difficult to manage (built a pc in the past for my bro with the silver P180B and it was a pain but was and is my favorite looking case). Now the Corsair HX520 is in my price range and is modular but is not listed in the slizone recommended PSU for the 8800Gt, would that be enough to power my system? I also will post this in my PSU confusion thread (http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/246165-28-confusion-help).
November 11, 2007 5:29:53 AM


LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner With 12X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model LH-20A1S - Retail

$35.99


Western Digital Caviar SE16 WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive

$104.99


SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor
$40.00 Mail-in Rebate

$309.99




OCZ GameXStream OCZ600GXSSLI ATX12V 600W Power Supply
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate

$114.99




Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804
$40.00 Mail-in Rebate each

$179.98
($89.99 each)




ASUS P5E LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard

$229.99


Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6750

$194.99


ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

$64.99


Subtotal: $1,235.91

+8800Gt when availability comes around - 270$

1505.91
November 11, 2007 6:10:35 AM

Guys... Gskill DDR2 800 4-4-4-12 = 34$ a gig on newegg... Buy 2 now and two later...

Why not OC a Core2? If you could unlock you car to get another 15mpg and not waste away at its life, would you? My E6400 does 3.2 stock voltage with no issues. Games never slow down. Get a cheaper CPU too. $150 in CPU+ RAM will get you fantastic performance for the price. (edit PSU to CPU)

Roll with 1 8800gt now and upgrade again when you get the cash.

November 11, 2007 9:44:42 AM

forget the 8800 gt . the new 8800 gts (112 pipes..) hammers it (all resolutions..)- costs 60 dollars more and is right by the 8000 gtx in most benchies..
Ryan Adds
November 11, 2007 10:47:38 AM

For a LCD check out OfficeMax.Com they have a 24" SOYO for $299 with free shipping. 1920-1200res
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