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5killer   11-14-2007 at 03:48:31 AM

I am purchasing a new gaming rig. However, I am stuck at which processor to get. I am looking at the amd 64 x2 6000, or spending some more money and getting the 6400. Would the price get me more bang for the buck? Will it help me out in the long run? Also are there any intel cpus that are comparable to the 6000 and 6400 that are cheaper or better?

Also, is this a good cpu heatsink and fan to get for the 6400 if I decide to get it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] man%2b9700

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coret   11-14-2007 at 03:52:20 AM
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That heatsink for the CPU is very good for it ... it's one of the top performers in frostytech.com's tests ...

As for which CPU to get (as long as you're sure you want AMD) get the 5000+ black edition, up the voltage 0.1v and set the multiplier to 15.5x / 16x and get yourself 6000+/6400+ performance for less cash outlay, and lower running costs (consumes less power).

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5killer   11-14-2007 at 04:02:10 AM
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Thank you for such the quick reply!

If I decide to get the 5000+ black edition is it difficult to up the voltage and such? I'm not the technical type.

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o1die   11-14-2007 at 04:28:14 AM
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It's easy to overclock with the right board. Pick out an asus or abit board with nforce chipset. Before ordering, go to the manufacturer's website and download the board manual. Check the bios settings for voltage and multiplier adjustments. For example, I selected the Abit K9N-sli. If you download the manual, you'll see the cpu multiplier and fsb adjustments in the soft menu 3.1, as well as the cpu voltage adjustment. You can drop the multiplier to 10.0 and increase the cpu fsb to 300. Or, you can increase the multiplier to 15 and leave the cpu fsb at 200. Both those settings will give you the same speed as the 6000. If the board won't post when you save and exit, simply use the cmos jumper and start over but this time with a cpu voltage increase. It's trial and error, but can be fun. The black edition cpus have unlocked multipliers specifically for overclocking. They only cost a few dollars extra.


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the_ogs   11-14-2007 at 04:29:05 AM
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coret wrote :

That heatsink for the CPU is very good for it ... it's one of the top performers in frostytech.com's tests ...
As for which CPU to get (as long as you're sure you want AMD) get the 5000+ black edition, up the voltage 0.1v and set the multiplier to 15.5x / 16x and get yourself 6000+/6400+ performance for less cash outlay, and lower running costs (consumes less power).



This is good advice! And a very affordable CPU, highly clockable I hear. Great performance - but no included CPU cooler, so it's perfect if you were looking at another cooler anyway. :)
Regards

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caamsa   11-14-2007 at 05:01:07 AM
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Hmmm if he gets that cpu X2 5000+ BE and cooler he will be paying $190.00 to have to hassle with over clocking to save a little electricity? Or he can get the X2 6000+ for $160.00 and it will keep him warm in the winter..

I suggest the X2 5200+ Windsor 89W a great chip, saves some power and if he decides to over clock then he can.

Just make sure you have a good video card to back it up.....

------------------------------ Athlon 64 AM2 6000+
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5killer   11-14-2007 at 06:46:32 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions!

I am thinking of getting the XFX 8800 gtx but I heard that sometimes its better to go with ati cards when getting amd cpus. I don't really like ati cards though. Also is there really a difference between say a XFX card and a BFG card?

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cherie22984   11-14-2007 at 11:58:48 AM
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If you want a GTX get this one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814186021
Thats by FAR the best price/performance GTX out right now. Its clockedas fast if not faster than some GTX Ultras. Did I mention is a little over $450!!!!

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elbert   11-14-2007 at 02:11:47 PM
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5killer wrote :

I am purchasing a new gaming rig. However, I am stuck at which processor to get. I am looking at the amd 64 x2 6000, or spending some more money and getting the 6400. Would the price get me more bang for the buck? Will it help me out in the long run? Also are there any intel cpus that are comparable to the 6000 and 6400 that are cheaper or better?

Also, is this a good cpu heatsink and fan to get for the 6400 if I decide to get it?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] man%2b9700


Thats a very good HSF but at the price of the AMD's Its over kill. I would suggest the X2 5000+ with ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185125
I hit 3GHz using this HSF with the X2 3600+ but is pretty hot. The X2 5000 BE should be cooler and may hit 3.2GHz with this HSF. Its only $20 and is very good as a few reviews have if only behind the 9700 by about 2°C. There is a screw you can loosen and turn it to blow on the chipset or memory if need.

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Primus462   11-14-2007 at 02:25:08 PM
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I just installed my 5000+ last night. I was surprised to see, after I set all of my BIOS settings to default, that the 5000+ Black Edition is running at 2.8GHz (200x14) stock at 25C! That's amazing! It's 6 degrees cooler than my 4200+! I recomend it already! I just ran PCMark05 and scored a 6498. Now it's time to start the OC!

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torcida_kutina   11-14-2007 at 02:35:28 PM
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i agre with o1die. Abit with nforce is the best combination. I've OC X2 5000 BE to 3,6(on ABIT AN9 32X) with AMD cooler from 4200. At 3,6GHz he was 55-56 degrees. I think 5000BE is best what you can get from AMD today. If you wish to wait week or two, check for prices of phenoms. Maybe they would be better in price/performance.

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5killer   11-15-2007 at 01:36:35 AM
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I wasn't going to order anything until about Christmas time.

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