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OCing the 5000 B.E. on the M2N32 SLI Deluxe wireless 590

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February 29, 2008 2:44:13 PM

ASUS M2N32-SLI Deluxe Wireless Edition AM2 NVIDIA nForce 590 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard
AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Dual-Core Black Edition Processor
CORSAIR XMS2 (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4DHX NEW
EVGA 256-P2-N758-TR GeForce 8600GT SSC 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card NEW
WD 36GB 10,000rpm Raptor SATA
Seagate 80GB 7200rpm SATA
Lite-On LTR-52246S CD/RW
Lite-On LH-18A1P CD/DVD Burner
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W
ViewSonic G90FB Black 19" CRT Monitor
Generic Mid Tower case w/ 5x 80mm case fans [ 2x front intake, 2x rear exhaust, 1x left side exhaust]

So far, all I've done is raise the multiplier from stock 13.5x to 15x, netting me a 2.6ghz to 3.0ghz boost. Most of this mobos' BIOS is far above me.
As per this article: http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/22/budget_overclocker/ the 5000 B.E. is capable of much more.

Stepping on my 5000 is BH-G2. I tired for a 16x multiplier but even with the CPU voltage at 14.125 (stock is 1.35 if memory serves) it started to error and blue screen. According to the THG article they got a stable 3.2ghz with only 1.4v. I assume I'm gonna have to mess with the FSB and memory and this is where I need the help. Any thoughts or help from someone with a similar setup would be appreciated.
Temps at 3.0ghz with four instances of Orthos running, were 45C for the CPU and 34C for the mobo. I'd like to stay on air only if possible.
Thx in advance for any suggestions or help. Also any info on MAX voltage this CPU can handle would be nice.

Here my CPU-Z charts:

March 1, 2008 12:36:20 AM

Have you tried increasing the cpu voltage?
March 1, 2008 1:29:01 AM

yeah... that might be the solution... i rmember them saying they needed to boost the voltage in order to get higher than 3.2 or summat
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March 1, 2008 8:06:24 AM

"I tried for a 16x multiplier but even with the CPU voltage at 14.125 (stock is 1.35 if memory serves) it started to error and blue screen. According to the THG article they got a stable 3.2ghz with only 1.4v."

14.125v...how did the cpu not blowup?!!!
March 1, 2008 10:27:34 AM

i think you mean 1.4125...

please for the love of chicken tell me you didn't pass 14V through your lovely processor!!!

some chips require more volts than others to hit a certain freq; my 2160 needs 1.425 whilst others' need only 1.325... big difference, hey? so if you need to go over or under, then don't be surprised or worried...
March 1, 2008 11:34:25 AM

yea i tried over 14 as did the OCers in the THG article...they had it up to 1.5.... 14.125 was high as I dared...no help...so its back at 1.35 at stable as a rock at 3.0ghz.....only problem is the memory is running at 376.7 instead of the desired 400mhz...this is the issue I'm trying to address....because the CPU freq. is independent of the FSB...I need to reach 3.2ghz on the CPU to acquire the "8" divider to default the memory freq. at 400mhz. I'm kinda fuzzy on FSB and memory adjustments. At present...because the CPU freq. is independent of the FSB on this motherboard, the mobo/system temps stay VERY low. I'd like to keep them this way. So I guess I need to know how to minimally adjust the FSB ( i think) to achieve 400mhz on the memory.
March 1, 2008 11:36:24 AM

yea i tried over 14 as did the OCers in the THG article...they had it up to 1.5.... 14.125 was high as I dared...no help...so its back at 1.35 at stable as a rock at 3.0ghz.....only problem is the memory is running at 376.7 instead of the desired 400mhz...this is the issue I'm trying to address....because the CPU freq. is independent of the FSB...I need to reach 3.2ghz on the CPU to acquire the "8" divider to default the memory freq. at 400mhz. I'm kinda fuzzy on FSB and memory adjustments. At present...because the CPU freq. is independent of the FSB on this motherboard, the mobo/system temps stay VERY low. I'd like to keep them this way. So I guess I need to know how to minimally adjust the FSB ( i think) to achieve 400mhz on the memory.

Also and on a different subject...where the heck to I update my hardware profile setting for this forum?
March 1, 2008 11:39:00 AM

yea i tried over 14 as did the OCers in the THG article...they had it up to 1.5.... 14.125 was high as I dared...no help...so its back at 1.35 at stable as a rock at 3.0ghz.....only problem is the memory is running at 376.7 instead of the desired 400mhz...this is the issue I'm trying to address....because the CPU freq. is independent of the FSB...I need to reach 3.2ghz on the CPU to acquire the "8" divider to default the memory freq. at 400mhz. I'm kinda fuzzy on FSB and memory adjustments. At present...because the CPU freq. is independent of the FSB on this motherboard, the mobo/system temps stay VERY low. I'd like to keep them this way. So I guess I need to know how to minimally adjust the FSB ( i think) to achieve 400mhz on the memory.

Also and on a different subject...where the heck to I update my hardware configuration for this forum?
March 1, 2008 4:42:42 PM

er yea it was 1.4125 and sorry about the triple post...back doesnt work on these forums like most...again not intentional
March 1, 2008 8:23:15 PM

Well 3.4 is the limit for the 5000be. But, some chips just dont want to oc. I would be happy with 3.0ghz though, its not a bad oc. For amd .4ghz is very good.
March 2, 2008 8:31:22 AM

I realize that and am quite happy with it except for one thing....the ram isnt running at full speed and that just pi**es me off :) 

Im on the exact same CPU and mobo as the THG article....maybe Orthos is just too stressful :) 

I did manage to get 3.2ghz with these settings:

16x multi, 1.5vcore, 2T, trc=26, trf=3 and Async latency=8....Orthos CPU stress (small FFT's) on priority 9 last 15mins before erroring. Otherwise the system ran fine at those settings at 3.2ghz

Load temps: 55C=CPU 34C=mobo....but I dont have any "stressful games or apps on comp...which I'd like to be able to use in the future.
March 2, 2008 9:35:42 AM

that's not a good OC... test at priotity 10 for at least 8 hours before you can call it stable...

try the Crysis Benchmark... i used it... else, 3dmark06, or superpi, or prime95
March 2, 2008 4:02:25 PM

well Orthos only goes to 9 and Ive already installed played and beaten the CRYSIS demo on this 3.0ghz OC it defaulted to medium settings....here is the link to the OCing forum post where the most work has been done so far:

http://www.overclock.net/amd-general/301109-ocing-5000-...
March 3, 2008 10:21:08 PM

i'll ignore your previous comment.

try redownloading the latest version of Orthos; mine managed to get to priority 10. have you used Superpi?

or, alrernatively, hows about just settling for lower? i mean, i've read of a 5000 Black hitting 3.7, but is that a realistic goal for most people??? 3ghz is fine...
March 4, 2008 1:04:16 AM

Hello to all..

ok, you must back off the HT to like 4x or even 3x

Also, put your ram to 667mhrz if your ram is 800mhrz

that will make it more stable... promise
March 4, 2008 5:28:05 AM

ok I tried this as per suggestion on the Corsair Forums (House of Help)

CPU Vcore Offset (Disabled)
DDR2 Termination Voltage (0.5 x DDR2 Voltage) can be set to 0.6 also
CPU to NB HT Voltage 1.25
NB to SB HT Voltage 1.35
NB Core/PCI-E Voltage 1.25
SB Core/PCI-E Voltage (auto)
SB Standby Core Voltage 1.7
CPU<->MCP55.... 5x
NB<->SB......... 5x
CPU freq.....................214mhz or 216mhz
CPU Voltage.................1.40
CPU multiplier...............15.0

would give you 3.210 or 3.240

your memory should be at 2.1v you need to have it at 4-4-4-12 2T
Set the Memory Clock Freq. 800

BUT..did make SOME headway....
..at least got the memory to 4-4-4-12, 2T, 2.1v @23 clocks(auto)



I think i tried 4x and 5x in with the BIOS settings at the TOP of this reply...when that failed I reverted back to what is shown in the screenie.....(I'm not USING the AI Boost to change settings...its just here to show the true vcore) You think 3x will do it? Do you see anything else I might change....I tried 667mhz too I think...I'm gettin a little wobbly..this is like 4th day in a row I been doin this :) 

P.S. at the screenie settings I got 11925 on 3DMark05 if any1 cares :) 
March 4, 2008 6:31:32 AM

at 667mhz OR 800mhz and with CPU<->MCP55 at 3x and NB<->SB at 3x no go!

CPU Vcore Offset (Disabled)
DDR2 Termination Voltage (0.5 x DDR2 Voltage) can be set to 0.6 also
CPU to NB HT Voltage 1.25
NB to SB HT Voltage 1.35
NB Core/PCI-E Voltage 1.25
SB Core/PCI-E Voltage (auto)
SB Standby Core Voltage 1.7
CPU<->MCP55.... 3x
NB<->SB......... 3x
CPU freq.....................214mhz
CPU Voltage.................1.45
CPU multiplier...............15.0
4-4-4-12, 2T, 2.1v @23 clocks(auto)

Question: when changing the HT multiplier should I be changing both CPU<->MCP55.....AND.......NB<->SB...or just....CPU<->MCP55?
March 4, 2008 10:56:20 PM

I did all that got RAM to 4-4-4-12 2T and it auto-ed to 23 clocks...I've since set it all back to AUTO cept for the 3.0ghz....

This is what I've learned so far about overclocking:

1. I don't know enough about RAM
2. For this board anyhow....the latest mobo manual is NOT for the 1603 BIOS
3. For overclocking in general...the bigger your' wallet, the higher your' OC
can YOU say $700 phase change cooling?
4. We are all guinea pigs for the industries engineers.
5. I'm definitely gonna by a book about how modern motherboards truly work.
6. OCing "slang" is NOT helpful when trying to explain things to new ppl...use
plain old english for gawds sake.

Ty all for your help, maybe in a few months I'll give it another go, when I know a LOT more than i do now.

ADVICE: DON'T over clock if your' wallet doesn't ROXXXXXX!!! :wave2:

I'll be baaacckkk lol


P.S. found this link for the "Black Edition Club"

http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/253387-black-edition-club.html
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