When will vendors have the Q9450 in stock? If possible, the exact date in January 08 would be nice
thanks
Mid/Late Jan 08.
I think it's the 15th or something.
Odds are vendors will have it within 24 hours of launch... how quick they sell out is another story.
And what the Price on Release will be yet another.
It took the Q600 G0 quite a while to settle in price.
Price per 1000 is supposed to be $316 for the Q9450. Q9550 is $530.
94 uses an 8x.
95 uses an 8.5x.
I think if the Q9450 even only better Q6600 performance (as it should) they will sell like hot cakes and availability will be that of the 8800GT in the early stages.
so the $316 is for quantities of 1000? how much will vendors sell it for?
i might just go with the q6600 if it's significantly pricier than the q6600
| inktri wrote : so the $316 is for quantities of 1000? how much will vendors sell it for?
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$350-400.
Clock for clock there won't be a huge difference. L2 Cache goes from 8 MB to 12 MB. Q9450 will have SSE4 support which the Q6600 does not.
Based on reviews of the new Extreme Penryn I'd say the Q9450 will beat the Q6600 to hell when it comes to overclocking. Get a good board and you're set.
Q9300 will replace the Q6600. SSE4 support, 6 MB Cache, 2.5 GHz clock, 7.5x Multi. $266/1000.
I wonder if the Phenom 9700 (2.4 ghz) will come in at $199..?
The Phenom 9700 (at least according to AMD's benchmarks) is pretty much a dead heat with the existing Q6600 - The Q9300 will pick up about 6-7% from tweeks, + and another few % from the clock speed boost and faster FSB so +/- 10 faster than a Phenom 9700 seems like a good bet..
Hmm.. dropping a pile of $199 phenom 9700s in a bunch ol old AM2 boards could be a nice little upgrade path...
Waiting for the cheaper models. *Sighs.* If it takes awhile for Penryn 3GHZ to come out, even longer for the slower processors.
i will get a new Q9000 series after the price comes down some. to like $266 or $300 then get it and give my q6600 to my friend.
but i just never tought i would see the day intel put out a 45nm cpu lol. i always was thinking it would be like pentium 8 or something lol. but just that me being silly
| the_vorlon wrote : I wonder if the Phenom 9700 (2.4 ghz) will come in at $199..?
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At the end of the day yea... AMD will be fine for playing games. Like they always have been.
Overall performance wise? Even if Phenom is dead heat with Q6600 at 2.4 GHz a lot of people are running their Q6600s over 3.0+ GHz. What's going to be the clock limit on Phenoms? When Penryn comes out it seems from initial reports it won't be hard to push them over 4 GHz on air as a quad.
At the same time, AMD will be fine for playing games, and will be fine... if they can actually get Phenoms out.
Any updates on an exact release date for Q9450? Any educated guesses as to retail (new egg) price on the day of release? I'm curious, because if it's going to be much more than $400 I'll just say to hell with it and get a Q6600.
| JJBlanche wrote : Any updates on an exact release date for Q9450? Any educated guesses as to retail (new egg) price on the day of release? I'm curious, because if it's going to be much more than $400 I'll just say to hell with it and get a Q6600. |
Thats my problem too. I do want a quad core, but I have the feeling that once they are placed on the market, the price is gonna do the same thing as the 8800gt. I may have to wait till Feb., or March to wee if the prices stablelize.
January 20th according to this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_ [...] processors
I am also in the same boat, will wait till mid-Jan to build a new rig.
| the_vorlon wrote : I wonder if the Phenom 9700 (2.4 ghz) will come in at $199..?
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new quads will run 4ghz on air no doubt
You just need a mobo that's stable up to and beyond 500 MHz. I'm not sure any of the current x38 boards can go that high. The Foxconn, for example, can only hit 430 before crapping out. The chip is not the OC bottle neck in this case.
| JJBlanche wrote : You just need a mobo that's stable up to and beyond 500 MHz. I'm not sure any of the current x38 boards can go that high. The Foxconn, for example, can only hit 430 before crapping out. The chip is not the OC bottle neck in this case. |
Didnt think id see that happen
... x48 should solve that
Im also looking @ getting a Q9450 especialy as iv just read the my EVGA 680i motherboard will run the penryn . i currently have a Q6600 but will just put that into a 2nd system. Te question is will it run the Penryn @ its full FSB or not
If AMD's B3 release sked really is 6 months away or so then we might all be waitin for more yorkies for a good long time!
allready available in europe
http://tweakers.net/pricewatch/161 [...] q9450.html
No, It's not available in Europe.
These are Pre-Sellers.
Take Note that some of these prices go back to last Sept.
tweakers.net! Yeah. Great etailer. I buy all my teenies and 8-balls from them.
I need a translator around here.
A tweaker is a meth head. 8-ball is 3.5 grams (1/8 oz.) of crystal methamphetimine, a teenie is "sweet 16" or 1/16 oz, 1.7 grams. I just know this from readin it on the net, I never had any experence with it first hand and that big garbage bag in the back of my car is filed with oregano, honest, officer!
| cnumartyr wrote : $350-400.
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How much difference will a 6MB cache on the Q9300 compared to a 12MB cache on the Q9450. Will there be a noticable difference to the average user and power users ?
Tony
| tonymarcus wrote : How much difference will a 6MB cache on the Q9300 compared to a 12MB cache on the Q9450. Will there be a noticable difference to the average user and power users ?
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There probably won't be much difference to average users. Power users, be they enthusiasts or business, would probably notice the difference.
I'm looking forward to the release of these chips. I think a Q9450 would make for a good performer. I'm unsure of the X48 mobo. It looks technically good, but from what I've read it only uses DDR3 ram, which is fairly expensive at the moment. Will have to wait until its actually released to know for sure. Maybe a good X38 that's upgradeable and uses DDR2 ram will work out better. Again, don't know and won't know until they're out.
| OlSkoolChopper wrote : A tweaker is a meth head. 8-ball is 3.5 grams (1/8 oz.) of crystal methamphetimine, a teenie is "sweet 16" or 1/16 oz, 1.7 grams. I just know this from readin it on the net, I never had any experence with it first hand and that big garbage bag in the back of my car is filed with oregano, honest, officer! |
Lol.... You know waaaaaaaaaaaay too much about that kind of stuff
Q9450 release date? Feb-March? Maybe later now that AMD isn't doing anything exciting?
Personally I no longer care about the penryn quads, since the Q9300 and Q9450 are badly limited by low multipliers. Good luck getting that 4ghz with even the Q9450 everyone! You are gona need a b!tching mobo to pull a high stable FSB of over 470 =\ Of course they will be better then any Q6600, but stay realistic here people.
Motherboard should matter much aside from high OC potential... Don't spend more for a X48 unless it does something you need this year. Remember we will all need a new MOBO for Nahalem anyways, so forget about long term upgradability. DDR 2 should be fine, many X38's use DDR2, perhaps those would also be a good option?
If I could get a nice, stable 3.8 ghz out of a Q9450, I'd be happy. The Q9550 uses a half multiplier which can be troublesome and the higher chips get expensive fast. Unless I was to drop a grand into a top end chip, which I don't feel like doing at the moment, a Q9450 will do for me.
Nehalam is a fair distance off, and Intel may decide to delay its introduction. Besides, going the "wait for" route just means that a person can end up waiting forever for the next greatest thing. I don't know about anyone else, but I'll be needing a new computer soon. I actually gave my last gamer to my son and am using an office computer at the moment, which means I'm typing while other programs are busy doing important stuff in the background.
You mentioned that the half multiplier of 9.5 on the Q9550 can be troublesome. I have never overclocked a system, but was contemplating that possibility on my next system. Would you mind elaborating to assist an OC Neophyte?
The Q9550 multeplier is 8.5 and its not suported by some boards that really should for the price, like the Asus Maximus Formula.
| inktri wrote : When will vendors have the Q9450 in stock? If possible, the exact date in January 08 would be nice
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March 15th
This website says they will have 300 OEM Q9450 arriving on March 24th. I however, have an order with them for the retail Q9450, but it shows no arrive date yet. Hoping it is the 15th like the above poster said.
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/sho [...] =!ORDERID!
Will a Abit IP35 Pro work with the Q9450 or is there a much better board to use???
I was going to go with a E8400 but because they are sold out everywhere (newegg, buy.com, ClubIT), and also newegg raised the price to $250, I'm just considering waiting on the Q9450 but I already have the Abit IP35 Pro board.
What suggestions does everyone have???
Do those half multipliers ever work? I remember I tried them on my FX-60 and some really funky stuff happened. I think my ram ran at some weird speed and the thing wasn't very stable. Could have just been the MB though. I don't trust it anymore.
Multipliers do not effect memory on Intel based systems. It might affect the new Nehalem based processors do to them having a IMC.
I still have my fingers crossed that a Q9450 will work on my ASUS P5W DH Deluxe...
Yes, i have been talking to someone with connections inside Intel and the Release date is without a doubt March 15th.
woooooooot
i hope you aren't lying
Release is the 15th and shipment is the 17th with another batch a week later to fulfill backorders.
Uhhh that is today...I think this one goes down as a false prophet!! Hehe.
Not necessarily.
If Intel Ships the Processors on the 17th, then the distributors will not get them until AFTER the 17th. Then the Distributors need to send them to the Retailors.
The Result is that it will likely be close to a week after the 17th until they start showing up.
However, Supplies will be very very tight even through summer.
It's not until Q3 that Intel expects to be producing more 45nm than 65nm as they shift production.
It's xeon version just became available today, so I wouldnt be surprised to see the regular version today as well.
In stock at:
http://www.lagoom.com/INTEL_CPU_XE [...] 80363.html
| Waspy wrote : Uhhh that is today...I think this one goes down as a false prophet!! Hehe. |
Not true, they have been delayed thanks to intel committing the first batch almost entirely to OEM product for system builders which means that we wont be seeing boxed product until the second batch of the 24th.
If it doesn't show up soon, some catastrophe will come along and suck up my upgrade money.
I'm not willing to upgrade this year if the cash evaporates on me...
I've been getting more than a bit cynical over schedualed releases. All too often they have become anouncements of chips, rather than actual releases. I don't expect the Q9450 or 9550 to be available to the pulbic until April or May. Then we might see "planned" shortages for a couple months after that, keeping the price high both on them and on older chips.
The only thing that I which might change this is if AMD manages to get the B3 Phenom out at higher clock speeds than its first release. If Intel feels some threat of competition, then you can safely bet the farm that we will be flooded with the new Yorkies.
damn, ive been waiting since november...
| Waspy wrote : Uhhh that is today...I think this one goes down as a false prophet!! Hehe. |
actually it has shipped, first batch get sent to companies like dell. And if you check dell's web site they now have systems avaible with the Q9450.
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