AMD delays Phenom 2.4 GHz due to TLB errata

[the_vorlon]

AMD delays Phenom 2.4 GHz due to TLB errata

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/news/2007/11/18/amd-delays-phenom-ghz-due-tlb

B2 rev K10 CPUs feature L3 cache miss flaw

By Theo Valich: Sunday, 18 November 2007, 5:29 PM

AMD WILL ONLY LAUNCH the Phenom 9500 and 9600. Even though the channel already got its hands on the Phenom 9700 (2.4 GHz) part, it will have to be pulled off from the shelves

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In the BIG picture this is likely not a big deal.

In the short term, micropicture.. another black eye.

AMD has some serious Karma issues of late.. Talk about leaving the impression that they are the gang that can't shoot straight.

 

[Wombat2]

OMFG

What a train smash.

This errata stuff is BS speak for "our 2.4 GHZ yields are crap". You dont get different errata at different speed bins.

 

[epsilon84]

"This problem was found during speed-binning the B2 revision processors, and this was the cause for the Phenom FX 3.0 GHz delay. It turns out that some CPUs running at 2.4 GHz or above in some benchmarking combinations, while all four cores are running at 100% load, can cause a system freeze."

I wonder what this means for overclocking... will you get random crashes even if the CPU is tested to be 'stable'?

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

All hail the failopoly.

 

[yomamafor1]

DAAMIT

 

[cnumartyr]

So where are the guys who said retail phenoms would easily hit 3.2 GHz OCs?

 

[Grimmy]

but it will bring serious disappointment to AMD fanboys and market itself. They are probably blubbing already.

 

[amdwilliam1985]

more bad news for AMD, sigh...
more bad news for us.

 

[onestar]

Why does the inquirer, of all places, have an inside track on this type of news? Does anyone else have difficulty in accepting the voracity of such news from such a source?

 

[BaronMatrix]

And here I was hoping the first thing the Inq would post today was their benchmarks. Maybe NDATech as they're called will.

 

[yomamafor1]

Why does the inquirer, of all places, have an inside track on this type of news? Does anyone else have difficulty in accepting the voracity of such news from such a source?

Well the same group of people believed it when Inq reported Phenom can be easily overclocked to 3.0Ghz.

But to me, Inq is just a rumor source. Since the K8 days, Inq had always claimed to have inside source in AMD (reverse hyper-threading anyone?). Before other credible news sources report the same, I'll treat it like a rumor.

 

[sailer]

There I was, hoping beyond hope that Phenom would be out and provide some good numbers, not expecting Phenom to be at the top, but at least close enough to worthwhile if the price was good. Sure, maybe the Inq has had its share of bad reporting, but a few other sites have not had much positive to say so far for Phenom.

Back in the hopeful department, perhaps AMD will get the problem straightened out quickly and the chips will ship before Christmas. If not, raise the glasses and toast to Intel for the holidays.

 

[thematrixhazuneo]

If you read the whole paper it states that it will be fixed with a BIOS update - similar to the microcode update that Intel had for their TLB errata. Oh noes doom gloom for AMD lol.

 

[yomamafor1]

If you read the whole paper it states that it will be fixed with a BIOS update - similar to the microcode update that Intel had for their TLB errata. Oh noes doom gloom for AMD lol.

Actually, Inq stated that since AMD did not have built in Micro-code update like Intel, they have to pull everything from the shelf.

Even though the channel already got its hands on the Phenom 9700 (2.4 GHz) part, it will have to be pulled off from the shelves...

...However, unlike Intel, that has a micro-code update function in all of its CPUs, AMD is forced to delay the introduction of the part.

This likely means no more Phenom 9700 for this holiday season.

 

[itotallybelieveyou]

Come on... AMD pull it together

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

AMD processors are errata-riffic!

 

[thematrixhazuneo]

From AMD

"The Translation Lookaside Buffer (TLB) errata is an L3 protocol issue causing a system hang when running certain client workload applications independent of platform. AMD is immediately introducing an updated BIOS which will correct the TLB errata".

Either way, sucks that more bad news had to pile on....

 

[rodney_ws]

AMD FTW!

 

[sailer]

From AMD

"The Translation Lookaside Buffer (TLB) errata is an L3 protocol issue causing a system hang when running certain client workload applications independent of platform. AMD is immediately introducing an updated BIOS which will correct the TLB errata".

Either way, sucks that more bad news had to pile on....

Wait until tomorrow and the stock market opens. Then, instead of an up day for AMD because of the chip line being introduced, there might be even more bad news because of this chip being recalled. I wonder if those new investors from overseas will feel like needing a drink of something strong.

 

[xcetera]

So they have to recall the chips, will we see them as tri-cores?

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

So they have to recall the chips, will we see them as tri-cores?

I doubt you'll see anything see, that's a characteristic of a paper launch.

 

[Evilonigiri]

Well good thing AMD/ATI released what I consider successful mid-range video cards, or else they be dead much sooner.

 

[snowmanman]

It seems the Inq isn't the only news site saying the Phenom is delayed.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9691

Read a few paragraphs down and it states that the Phenom 2.4ghz will be launched sometime in December. I sure hope its before holidays.

 

[sailer]

So you are willing to delay the obituary? I believe that AMD/ATI will survive, but will need some time to recover. Between the overseas investment AMD just received and the replacement of Ruiz, AMD may have some good days ahead of it. And none too soon, I might add.

Edit note: reply to Evilonigiri

 

[sailer]

It seems the Inq isn't the only news site saying the Phenom is delayed.
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=9691

Read a few paragraphs down and it states that the Phenom 2.4ghz will be launched sometime in December. I sure hope its before holidays.

Ok, if AMD gets the 2.4 ghz chip out in Dec, then there's some hope. But the pricing seems a bit high to me if these chips are supposed to take on Intel's equivalent chips. At the moment, all we can do is wait and see how things play out. At least, that's my 2 cents worth.