Phenom 9700, AMD's 1st Quad-Core CPU

How many freaking threads do we need linking to the same article? Mods? Hello?

Penryns will work on P35s. They will work on X38s. If it's not working on (insert X38 motherboard here) it's most likely a BIOS issue.


QX9650 on Asus P5K Premium (P35)

Edit: But yes I do think it's a good thing that it's a drop in replacement on AM2 boards. It's just unfortunate that it will have to use HT2.0 instead of the HT3.0 on AM2+ boards.

Quit the FUD will ya? Even my 15 month old Asus P5B Deluxe (P965 chipset) works with 45nm, as will all P35 chipsets.

I agree, but, that is were they will make the most money. Any idea when the phenom X2s will be hitting the market?

Perhaps you'd like to realize that MOST of the Penryns will work on a 1333 MHz FSB which means they will be supported. The QX9650 works at 1333 MHz FSB. This has nothing to do with Penryn, but FSB support. If they wanted to release a Q6600 @ 1600 MHz FSB.. guess what? You'd need a new mobo if you wanted to OFFICIALLY support it.

Saying all Penryns require a new motherboard is fairly ignorant. However yes, in the instance of 1600 MHz FSB X48 is the only one that will officially support it from Intel.. But Gigabyte and Asus already support 1600 MHz FSB on their X38 platforms.

Since it was buried in a paragraph let me restate for emphasis.

QX9770 support has nothing to do with 45nm support on P35s/X38s. It has 100% to do with FSB support.

Sirfiroth,

Again, this will not require a new MB.
All this requires is running DDR2-800 at full speed.

I'm not sure if you have noticed, but DDR2-1066 and higher are currentyl being sold and used on current Mobos.

It's basically a 400FSBx4 which nearly every Mobo for ages have been able to handle.

The question is normally how far into the 500FSBx4 range can they hit.

It's really silliness indeed.
The overwhelming majority of the old p965 chipsets will handle these chips w/o the slightest issue since the 1600FSB is a very normal setting nowadays.

Well, I definitely don't plan to upgrade to Phenom at this point. Seeing the 6400+ beat it in gaming makes the value seem terrible. Good thing my current system does anything I want it to.

Sweet. Decent pricing.. Socket past 2009..im in!

Price/performance is always the issue, except for the extremists. We will see the market price for both of these chips come to demand levels before long.

It is always interesting to me....to see people degrade other people's choices because it is the not the choice they would have made. Valid, in some cases, true, but still interesting.

True, but I didn't expect K10 to be such an advancement that a 2.3 GHz part could out perform a 3.2 GHz part in "single" threaded apps.

K10 is about 10 - 15% faster than K8 clock for clock.

Interesting how quiet BM is on this.

All i can see is this new quad is basically newer with better features and a longer life cycle. I was ready to buy and i got excited when i looked at the article. But upon reading it and finding that it really doesnt perform any better than my 6000+ in the app's that I use i cant justify buying it at this point. Hell who know's though...I may Ill give it a couple more day's and then make my decision.

I have what many may consider a dumb question. I do work in AutoCAD to make digital terrain models. Some of the files have huge amounts of linework and I have to generate at model based on that. I also do comparisons of the models to determine the amount of soil that has to be moved to get a job done. With all of that in mind, what benchmark would be the best to look at to determine what processor is faster at that type of computation? Would a cpu that is fast at making PDF files, but slower in winrar be better then the faster in winrar? Just curious if anyone has any knowledge on that. Thanks

Why? Explanation please? I kind of liked the asus model more for its features... But its also $60 more. I hate statements like that because they just help add confusion to decision making.

AMD, I said I wanted 3.2 Ghz, not 2.3
not quite the drop-in I wanted doesn't give me the road map I want... yet

I wonder how much the phenom is bottlenecking the 4x3800 configuration.
I also always wonder why intel dropped the price of the Q6600 so much, well I guess AMD just answered that question.
still in shock (at the lack of competitive pricing at 2.4Ghz) after all the waiting to see if AMD had something up their sleeve (hopefully they still do). Clock for clock Core2 still looks better.

MSG to AMD: get your $#!% together.

Phenom was butchered across the board.

I didn't expect the progress AMD have made with their chips to be so limited.

THG: "The Phenom 9600 is about 13.5% slower than Intel's Q6600 in our benchmarks."

WOW, I'm still reading it all, just amazing! I predict another year of AMD loses in the billions. Not because their processors suck (compared to Intel), but because they aren't going to be able to make any money out it. Intel gets to charge hundreds and hundreds more for its top part, while AMD isn't even able to make their top part or deliver it.

I'm not defending AMD here but I reckon since most AM2 boards can support the Phenom without any upgrades, and the fact that it IS the cheapest quad-core on the market, that's where they will find their demand. Although when they mentioned that you won't need to upgrade boards with the Phenom, that's assuming most Intel users don't already have a quad-core supportive board, which IMO is false (but don't quote me on that). If you need to upgrade an Intel board it will be for the Penryn, and Phenom doesn't even come close to Penryn. Besides, whose going to spend $1,500 on a processor if you're seriously considering price? If you're going to spend that much on a Penryn then you should be able to afford a board as well, aye? I guess what I'm trying to say is AMD seems to be trying to coax people in to buying their product because you don't need to upgrade the motherboard to use it, but most of us who build our PCs (with Intel chips) already have a quad-core supportive board. It's like trying to sell American gasoline to the Saudis. They already have it! I don't think they're going to make much money advertising that you don't need to upgrade the board. Who knows what it'll do for them though. And like it said on the article, it's price/performance is the same as Intel's right now and I think that's the only way they're going to sell these things.

I would do the 5000 black eddition for that price: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103194 prolly AMD's best processor for price at the moment and its only $129.99 at newegg.

B3 will sell great if it lives up to the hype.

I might even convince some people to build them so I can mess with it.

What's the bet the Phenom drops in price quite a bit.

Then it will sell ...

Plus a couple of the early articles mentionned it OC'ing to around 2.8 to 3Gig. If that is so and it is that much cheaper then I'm looking at it for the kids machines which are duals at present.

Otherwise Iv'e gotta changout three mobos (AM2's) and thats not cheap ... Intel mobos are way more expensive.

Swapping out a couple of chips is a 5 min job in comparison to major surgery.

Still ... the QX6600 does have one real strength ... we know the G0 stepping overclocks like mad.

So my money is presntly still on the cheap Intel quad ... better value for money for the enthusiast.

After seeing all of the articles now I'm getting a low end Intel quad ... well for my PC anyway ... not for my kids tho ... heh heh.

Lets hope this launch lowers the entry price for Quads.

If so .. thank you AMD.

I'm new to the thread but I always hear that intels mobo cost more that may be true but if you go on newegg you can find the 775 mobos for under100$ and yes some 775 mobos will run the new penryn chip.

AMD's stock has never made sense. It'll probably skyrocket simply because they released a processor. Remember when they announced they would be diluting the existing stock shares? I think it went up then too! If the market as a whole is down, I expect AMD to track to that - this news is almost a non-significant event in terms of AMD's bottom line (especially for this fiscal year).

Did Sharikou hack your account or something?

All P35/X38 boards work with 45nm quads, WTF are you smoking?!

The QX9650 was reviewed on P35/X38 boards FFS!