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November 21, 2007 4:25:43 AM

Hey guys, I currently own a 7900gs which is still a decent video card but Im looking to upgrade. The 3850 is $179 which is a perfect price range for me. Is it worth it to get the 3870 for $220, or is the 3850 for $179 the best bang for the buck? thanks!

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November 21, 2007 5:58:12 AM

The 3850 would kill an 8600GTS or 2600XT DDR4, but it would be owned by an 8800GTS 320mb.
A 3870 would kill an 8800GTS but it'd be owned by an 8800GT.

For your case if you could add a few more bucks the 3870 would be better. Though if you could wait for stocks and add more than the price of the 3870, then I'd advise the 8800GT
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November 21, 2007 6:46:34 AM

Considering that its only $40 more (assuming you can find it, and assuming its $220) the 3870 is good. Cheaper then either the 8800GT or the 8800GTS, and its only just behind them. (Check the reviews, the GTS can be faster then the 3870 depending on settings.) If you can't add in that $40, then don't worry about the 3850. It seems to perform about as well as a x1950XT, which can't be found anymore. Either way, you'd be getting a card that is much faster then your 7900GT.

There aren't any Nvidia cards in this price range worth considering. They simply don't have any sub $200 cards that perform as well as the 3850. If you are looking to spend this amount, the 3850 is your best bet.
November 21, 2007 7:48:49 AM

3870 is better consumes 181watts (less heat more overclockability)
8800GT consumes 231watts (more heat)

3870 has better rendering quality over 8800GT and all games runs smoothly except on Crysis where no single GPU can make it flawless.

8800GT is just few leaps away. Few driver update can overlap it. At stock speed.
Think!

If you overclock your current 3870HD then 8800GT will be left in the dust.
November 21, 2007 8:02:02 AM

3870 is not double the frame rates of 3850. It just depends on the game that need more than 256mb vram.

Most modern games use up more than 256mb vram because of post processing, AA, etc.

3850 would still double the performance of 7900gs but it would literally hamper in performance when it's vram starved situations.

I suggest you wait for 3850 with 512mb vram from power color. It has upgraded cooler and 512mb vram for retail price of $200. Other wise I would suggest you get 3870.
November 21, 2007 8:32:30 AM

pogsnet
1) the consumptions of 181 and 281 watts that you provide are system consumtion. No video card needs that much power.

2) It seems you've been away for at least 1 year. Image quality is now the same for both nVidia and AMD since G80 and in some cases nVidia is better in AA and AF.

3) Crysis can run fine with carefully choosen settings on any 8800 if you don't require AA.

4) 8800GT is many leaps away. No driver update can close this gap. Moreover, nowadays nVidia drivers especially for Vista seem to be better than AMD's.

5) No amount of overclocking can make a 3870 faster than a 8800GT especially in DX10 games. You know, 8800GT is also a very overclockable card. Also, the 3870 is by no means twice as fast as the 3850.

Read a bit before you post. Posts like this mislead people.
November 21, 2007 9:02:04 AM

Sorry, it is system power consumption which includes your video card.
Reference for power consumption
http://techreport.com/articles.x/13603/9

Previous video card driver improves ATI cards up to 70% performance thats tweaking update.
http://techreport.com/discussions.x/13369

DirectX 10.1 soon to be released with ATI features unleashed. Because some new features of 3800 card is not currently in use of the current software.


About the performance



4.x FPS away is just few leaps. Overclocking can take that. Look 8800GT vs 3870.

well buy ATI 3850 $179 or ATI 3870 $220 or 8800GT $300 (price/performance not worth it)
November 21, 2007 9:52:27 AM

8800 gts are only 300 for the time being because they were just released, I bet the 3870 will be overpriced too for a while, at the gts original price of 240-250 I would much rather pay 20-30 more bucks for the gt.
November 21, 2007 11:30:37 AM

steffato said:
pogsnet
1) the consumptions of 181 and 281 watts that you provide are system consumtion. No video card needs that much power.

2) It seems you've been away for at least 1 year. Image quality is now the same for both nVidia and AMD since G80 and in some cases nVidia is better in AA and AF.

3) Crysis can run fine with carefully choosen settings on any 8800 if you don't require AA.

4) 8800GT is many leaps away. No driver update can close this gap. Moreover, nowadays nVidia drivers especially for Vista seem to be better than AMD's.

5) No amount of overclocking can make a 3870 faster than a 8800GT especially in DX10 games. You know, 8800GT is also a very overclockable card. Also, the 3870 is by no means twice as fast as the 3850.

Read a bit before you post. Posts like this mislead people.


1. 8800gt uses more power than 3870

2. I agree image quality had improved on 8 series considerably. Anything below were sub-par

3. So can a 3870

4. It sure can beat a 8800gt in dx10 game. Couple games but now there aren't too many dx10 games to begin with.

5. You are telling me 3870 with bios unlocked and overclocked 900mhz won't match a stock 8800gt?
November 21, 2007 11:43:12 AM

Coronos said:
8800 gts are only 300 for the time being because they were just released, I bet the 3870 will be overpriced too for a while, at the gts original price of 240-250 I would much rather pay 20-30 more bucks for the gt.


If that was true why are newly released 3870 selling $220 at newegg and 8800gt cost anywhere between $270~$330.

3870 seems to do really well with 8xAA or higher sometimes beating out 8800gt and roughly 15% slower with 4xAA but 23%~50% more in price.

Both of these cards can power a 22" monitor in it's full glory except maybe crysis. 8800gt is faster and I don't think anyone is touting that but the performance is negligible and price is much better.
November 21, 2007 11:17:58 PM

The performance Gap is close but the price gap is long. ATI sometimes beat the nVidia. Not worth it.
November 22, 2007 4:08:50 AM

ATI 3870 is more overclockable than 8800GT since it is cooler and less power needed to run. So it can surely beat 8800GT on OC.
November 22, 2007 4:17:39 AM

You may want to wait a bit before buying anything. It looks as though ATI is set to lower the pricing on the 3870 and 3850. making an even good price/performance ratio, even better.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/200711211458...

I currently have a 7900GS myself and will be buying a 3870 in the next few months due to it being cheaper/available.
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