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November 13, 2007 10:31:16 AM

Well , hello there. My names Ryan. All my other computers I have owned in the past I have bought as a setup from a local shop - and I beleive its high tide I built one myself.

Before we begin , I am not a hardware techie , but I do know a thing or two . So do tone down your lingo , but not the the extent where a canine could understand. :D 

Anyway , this is my first ever computer build. I've never built a computer before so be gentle , there will probably be a few compatibility issues with my first component choices and / or I will miss a specific component out - but thats what your here for :D .

I am simply building the tower and components inside , all peripherals , including monitor have already been purchased . And I love my monitor :D  22" pebble , with 2ms response time and HD ready *shuts up*

Onto the juicy stuff.

I am making this computer as primarily a gaming rig , and something for me to do college work on / web design work and general surfing.

Below are the components I have chosen at current;

( Here we go! )

CPU - Intel Quad core 2.4

GPU - Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

RAM - Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

HDD - Samsung Spinpoint 500 GB SATA HDD - 16MB cache

Case - Antec sonita III 500 qatt PSU

CD/DVD - CD Drive 20x

Mobo - Help me? =]

CPU Cooler - Zalman CPU cooler

So there you have it. A novice's attempt at a full tower.

Heres my questions then -


  • What Mobo would work with all of those components?
  • Im assuming that the case has its own power supply so I would'nt have to buy it seperatly - right ? [ novice ]
  • This post contains all components needed for a full working tower?
  • What do you think of the main components - i.e. graphics card and CPU
  • Will this computer fulfil my needs [ i.e. anything from web browsing to high end games ]


  • Also before I forget , I already have an OS.

    And a budget of around 700 pounds , or 1400$


    Regards - Ryan
  • More about : build lots opinions

    November 13, 2007 10:42:45 AM

    Hello Ryan and welcome to the forums mate :) 

    Your answers:
    1_ASUS P5K-E WIFI , GIGABYTE P35 DS3R, ABIT IP35 PRO , all these 3 boards are rock solid

    2_Well,get a seperate PSU, its better , get OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 600 or CORSAIR 520

    3_Yes

    4_Q6600+8800GT is a perfect combination

    5_Yes

    Are u going to OC ? if u will then get another CPU COOLER like TuniqTower or Thermalright ultra 120
    your links doesnt work, so i have to ask what is the timings of that RAM (its important if u want to OC )
    November 13, 2007 10:47:21 AM

    Maziar said:
    Hello Ryan and welcome to the forums mate :) 

    Your answers:
    1_ASUS P5K-E WIFI , GIGABYTE P35 DS3R, ABIT IP35 PRO , all these 3 boards are rock solid

    2_Well,get a seperate PSU, its better , get OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 600 or CORSAIR 520

    3_Yes

    4_Q6600+8800GT is a perfect combination

    5_Yes

    Are u going to OC ? if u will then get another CPU COOLER like TuniqTower or Thermalright ultra 120
    your links doesnt work, so i have to ask what is the timings of that RAM (its important if u want to OC )



    Extremely helpful!

    However , if I did buy another PSU , would I have to get a different case? Could it work out cheaper?


    And all those components will fit together?:D 
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    November 13, 2007 10:57:59 AM

    Because there's a psu included in the Sonota III you will have to change your case.

    The included 500W psu in the Antec case isn't bad, but if you want to do some OCing, you should stick to the PSU's Maziar suggested. those are much better.

    Normaly it will be sightly more expensive to buy a seperate case and psu.

    The parts you picket will perfectly fit together.
    November 13, 2007 11:06:08 AM

    First the number one most important PC component you'll ever buy is the power supply, often overlooked and can cause strange behavior. Maziar has recommended a great PSU choice as are the CPU coolers. Your computer build looks great, you have chosen some good parts for your build and should do you well. Asus or Gigabyte P35 mobo's are both great choices, either one will do. If you have anymore questions please ask and welcome to our forums.
    November 13, 2007 11:38:21 AM

    Ok then , second try , with opinions taken into account.

    CPU - Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - Samsung Spinpoint 500 GB SATA HDD - 16MB cache

    Case - Now unsure what case to get that will fit everything and the chosen CPU cooler.

    CD/DVD - CD Drive 20x

    Mobo - Please comment on the mobo , I am entirely unsure.

    CPU Cooler - Zalman CPU cooler

    PSU - OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm LED Fan
    November 13, 2007 11:44:12 AM

    Ok then , second try , with opinions taken into account.

    CPU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950 Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5 Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/130454 Samsung Spinpoint 500 GB SATA HDD - 16MB cache[/URL]

    Case - Now unsure what case to get that will fit everything and the chosen CPU cooler.

    CD/DVD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132146 CD Drive 20x

    Mobo - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129125 Please comment on the mobo , I am entirely unsure.

    CPU Cooler - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116413 Zalman CPU cooler

    PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127861 OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm LED Fan

    Edit - did'nt realise the links werent working and it would'nt let me edit previous post.
    November 13, 2007 12:53:32 PM

    Another vote for Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme. If you don't intend to overclock, don't get a cooler at all. Just use the stock cooler, it's even good enough for mild overcloking.

    The PSU you picked comes somewhere between tier 3 and tier 2. At least get the GameXStream 600W version, it's a tier 2 i.e. better. The 520HX would also be great IMO. Don't let the 520W rating mislead you, it's a very powerful PSU. PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W is my favourite for systems like this.

    Mobo: another vote for GA-P35-DS3R. Is there some feature you need and don't get with the DS3R? For example wireless or FireWire? GA-P35-DS3P has FireWire, for example. For wireless look at the Asus P35 boards.

    Spinpoint: I hear good things about them. Still, Seagate and WD have a better reputation for hard disks. Check out the WD7500AAKS. It's WD's first disk with perpendicular recording and much faster than the 500GB version.

    Case: the 8800GT is hot and misbehaves if the case doesn't cool well enough. Antec 900 is excellent for that.

    DVD-RW: the one you picked is IDE. I strongly recommend getting a SATA device instead, it's better for speed and airflow and cable management. Here are two good choices:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/134531
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129527
    November 13, 2007 3:43:26 PM

    Ok then , third try , with some more helpful opinions taken into account.

    CPU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950 Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5 Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228 WD HDD 500GB Changed thanks to the logic of looking at other peoples opinions and seeing how certain drives performed. thanks aevm.
    Case - Now unsure what case to get that will fit everything and the chosen CPU cooler.

    CD/DVD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129527 SATA dvd/cd drive

    Mobo - GA-P35-DS3R / GA-P35-DS3P ( Having trouble finding these on ebuyer - unsure why )

    CPU Cooler - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/116413 Zalman CPU cooler I dont overclock - at all - but is this still worth it to keep it cool for only 20pounds?

    PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127861 OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm LED Fan Again having trouble finding a specific part - "PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W"



    I beleive I will have no problem putting the computer together , however before I buy the parts I want to know im making a nice decision. I want a nice quiet computer which can run at a decent speed.

    Also - not being rude ( to myself mainly ) - I got a little confused with some of this in the previous post ;

    "GA-P35-DS3R. Is there some feature you need and don't get with the DS3R? For example wireless or FireWire? GA-P35-DS3P "

    And now I beleive I know why im struggling with the mobo a lot ^^ - if you do post number models would you be so kind as to post a link say on www.ebuyer.com or the actual name - I cannot find the actual product:( 

    anyway thanks for all your patience and willingness to help me learn:D 

    - Ryan
    November 13, 2007 4:04:37 PM

    It's ebuyer's fault, not yours Ryan, no worries. They don't even have the GA-P35-DS3R, and the DS3P didn't have the dashes in the model number, they have it as "GA P35 DS3P" :sweat: 

    One of these should do.

    Asus P5K-E
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129126
    GA P35C DS3R
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131173
    GA P35 DS3P:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132266
    GA P35 DS4:
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/132263

    GA-P35-DS3R
    http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-088-GI

    Somebody in the UK, could you recommend some other reliable online stores please?

    November 13, 2007 4:11:53 PM

    P35C DS3R DDR3 option is limited to 4GB but DDR2 option is limited to 8GB, so that DDR3 support wont become useful, but its overall a good board (especially if he doesnt want to OC)
    November 13, 2007 4:21:03 PM

    Another post - with a few things changed.

    CPU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950 Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5 Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228 WD HDD 500GB Changed thanks to the logic of looking at other peoples opinions and seeing how certain drives performed. thanks aevm.

    Case - Now unsure what case to get that will fit everything and the chosen CPU cooler.

    CD/DVD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129527 SATA dvd/cd drive

    Mobo - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131173 I have chosen this board purely because of the price - as im on a budget , and the fact its still a good card. ( Hopefully ). Also- it will run in tune with everything else right? - Just my paranoia running through - im a perfectionist.

    CPU Cooler - As I'm not overclocking , i've decided against this. If for some reason however I do decide to overclock in the future I will order one. This option is now obselite.

    PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127861 OCZ StealthXStream 600W PSU - SLI Ready ATX2.2 12cm LED Fan Again having trouble finding a specific part - "PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610W"


    So now the only options im having trouble with are the case and PSU.

    All the others are pretty much chosen - however not set in stone. If someone sees a problem with one of the options compatibility please point out. Or if someone sees a component similar to that one in price ( maybe just a bit more ) but a fair bit better - also please point that out.


    Sorry about being a perfectionist. ( An unconfident one at that )

    - Ryan
    November 13, 2007 4:39:01 PM

    Maziar said:
    Well u have choosed P35C DS3R ,but if u want to OC in future, i recommend u getting another board (which supports DDR2 only), because P35C DS3R doesnt OC as well as its brother P35 DS3R:
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/ga-...




    And the confusion continues.

    Im actually assuming I will not overclock if im honest - the last computer I had I had for 4 years - I only once even thought of overclocking it. Hence the board in my list will take priority unless for some unknown reason I change my mind in the next 2 weeks.

    Anyway , I want a really quiet case and PSU - that will fit with all above components , any ideas?
    November 13, 2007 7:54:37 PM

    I would get the Antec 900 PC case if I were you, it has some major cooling options. You can set the system fans on low, medium and high so that you can make it as quiet as you preffer.
    November 14, 2007 9:21:10 AM

    If u can, definitely go for
    THERMALTAKE ARMOR + OCZ STEALTHXSTREAM 600
    ----------->Combination of Power , cooling and silence
    November 14, 2007 10:00:59 AM

    i have to say go the Antec 900 for the case.Yes there are some other good ones out there, but this is a great case for gaming if you don't OC. friend of mine has a $1500 build with it, neither of us were able to push it until we OCed the CPU. soon to be getting one myself :)  though if your going to OC later on, i agree with Maziar, thermaltake armor will serve you better.
    November 14, 2007 12:00:41 PM

    So my final system is chosen.

    Does this have everything I need for a mid range tower?

    CPU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950 Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5 Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228

    Case - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/128045 Sonita III

    CD/DVD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129527 SATA dvd/cd drive

    Mobo - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131173


    Final pre order questions - will this play most new games?
    - is there everything I need there for in a tower?
    - Will it all fit together and has the case got enough power for the whole system?
    - Will it be cool enough with current onboard fans - as im not overclocking?
    November 14, 2007 7:39:03 PM

    I still say go get the Antec 900.
    November 15, 2007 9:10:39 AM

    Again , I have chosen a new component - this time its my case.

    I have done this in order to future foolproof my PC , incase I want to add another component and the 400 w is'nt enough.

    CPU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950 Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5 Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228

    Case - The antec 900 does have everything I want , but a little pricey - and I dont like the design. Any cheaper alternatives?

    CD/DVD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129527 SATA dvd/cd drive

    Mobo - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131173

    PSU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/127861 Stealstream 600 W
    November 15, 2007 7:41:33 PM

    jellyzerg said:
    Again , I have chosen a new component - this time its my case.

    I have done this in order to future foolproof my PC , incase I want to add another component and the 400 w is'nt enough.

    CPU - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/131950 Intel Quad core 2.4

    GPU - http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?ASU-88GT5 Nvidea 8800 GT 512MB

    RAM - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/98710 Corsair 2GB kit 800mhz Ram

    HDD - http://www.ebuyer.com/product/124228

    Case - The antec 900 does have everything I want , but a little pricey - and I dont like the design. Any cheaper alternatives?


    Never underestimate the importance of PC case cooling. I have a bad case for cooling so in 15 days I'll be getting a very pricey PC case for the cooling it offers. Two 120mm on top, one in back and one right in front of graphics cards.



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