Why is 3870 Better Than 8800GT?

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Those don't matter. Things like color and company are much more important. For example, Nvidia did not make the 3870, so it sucks totally. Also, the 3870s use a lot of red, which has been scientifically proven (along with the young earth theory) to be hazardous to how good it is. Aftermarket green coolers increase performance tenfold, but the 8800GT is cheaper anyways.

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Direct x 10.1 .... nvidia only dx 10 ..... DX 10.1 made for all future software ..... runs alot cooler ... G92 8800's are already having heat problems and they're brand new ! .... 3870 eats way less power supply output . About $ 80.00 - $100.00 lower in price !

So a passive 8500GT would be better then a GTX because its cheaper and quieter?

I can get an old out of date card that doesnt even need a cooler for £3, is that better than an 8800GT then because its cooler, silent and 50x less the price?

Seriously, what a load of rubbish. 8800GT performs better under almost every situation end of story.

Some good points there, Aad, but one thing we as consumers must keep in mind... We don't want EITHER camp to win, per se. This constant tug-o-war between Ati and NVidia is part of what brings us the better, faster, most well-hung GPU's that our eye-candy riddled software demands. In this case, NVidia with their well endowed 8800gt was concerned that Ati with their slightly less but still generously endowed 3870 was going to steal their mid market Johns. So they pimped it at a level that made it very attractive to the average John.

And now ATI has a bit of catching up to do to stay in the market. The cycle is complete for now. Eventually ATI will come out with a proc that spanks NV's a$$ and bless them for doing so, because then NV will have to work twice as hard to catch up, make it do more, sell it for less and we, the consumer, win again.

True, True. While it would good to have only one company(due to the fact that games could be specifically tuned to work amazing with that one), it would be awful for the consumer.

i think that if amd and nvidia were to make fan club member cards they would sell a lot more than video cards

At first I scoughed this idea, then upon reflection realized you may be onto something...

Real life geek factions! Member cards will give way to subcutaneous ID implants and barcode tattoos... At the check out line swipe your credit card and scan your hand to receive your 5% discount, case decal and t-shirt! Camps of dedicated consumers pushing their GPU champion to bash in the transistors of the competitor by beating their benchies by 5fps!

It will be glorious! Rabid spending by leashed lapdogs that know only that one way to show their devotion to their corporate logos...

dont go too fast... i got patent rights on that