Catalyst 7.11 performance

Just a quick question, wondering what ati owners have made of the new catalysts released today. Any improvements? (none in release notes) anything faster or slower?? DX10 'fixed' performance wise??

Reply to spoonboy

Havent noticed anything better/worse (havent tried Crysis after 7.11 though

Reply to Harrisson

Tried 7.11 for a few mins, plugged in Guitar Hero III and recieved a crash to the desktop about 5-10 min in each time. Since there were no real improvements I could see in the release notes, rather than fugging with it to see if I could get it to wrok, I just went back to 7.10.

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Reply to Ibanezrg570

It's a stability upgrade (ironically after reading the previous post), if you check the release notes there is no section on Performance Improvements like there usually is.

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Reply to randoMIZER

Guitar Hero III performs like crap probably not 7.11's fault

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Reply to itotallybelieveyou

Apparently SLI/CF with them in crysis took a massive performance hit I read elsewhere.

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Reply to randoMIZER

itotallybelieveyou wrote :

Guitar Hero III performs like crap probably not 7.11's fault

GH III performed flawlessly and without fault on 7.10, and continues to do so on my system. I only experienced CTD's after upgrading to 7.11, so, I have a feeling there is some errant code in the latest drivers which conflicts with GH III. Either that, or there is some conflict with 7.11 and my system and GH III, but either way, at least on my system, 7.11 is more than likely the cause for my GH III crashes.

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Reply to Ibanezrg570

randoMIZER wrote :

It's a stability upgrade (ironically after reading the previous post), if you check the release notes there is no section on Performance Improvements like there usually is.

Yeah I did before I made the thread, still was curious though, especially as regards cross-fire.

Reply to spoonboy

the installations for 7.10 and 7.11 crash on my system every time. using 7.9.

Reply to frozenlead

I noticed a little bit of improvement with Quake Wars. ATi's drivers almost always improve OpenGL perf. with each release. Overall I think it was just to fix things. A shame. Since I expected to see some major ground breaker of a driver with the new cards out. Oh well...

Reply to nevasumma

Then go on the AMD game! site and vote in the poll that pops up. Pick Performance instead of stability.

Reply to randoMIZER

ATI driver ftl.

Reply to qmalik

Anyone running into issues with the Catalyst Control Center not starting?

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Reply to Wolfshadw

ATI drivers were always good. Everytime they release something, is a nice upgrade, not like NVIDIA which releases a new driver for each single fix they release making 20 releases in a month.

Still, on the hardware site, nvidia is owning for now (well now with ATI prices, things are changing)

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Reply to slim142

How are ATI drivers good? If the supposedly "stable" drivers come out unstable, it sounds to me as if they suck. Are ATI drivers always like this? I have never owned an ATI card so I can't compare.

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Reply to Evilonigiri

Like what?

Reply to nevasumma

The drivers are stable for me, and I have played all of my games with them now. I actually increased the res. to 1920x on many of them to see if that was any better... yup. I was impressed that my OLD vid. card can do what it does these days. Every driver release has given me an even bigger smile. I feel like the card I have will continue to improve and give me another year of good times, if I want it to.

Reply to nevasumma

Evilonigiri wrote :

How are ATI drivers good? If the supposedly "stable" drivers come out unstable, it sounds to me as if they suck. Are ATI drivers always like this? I have never owned an ATI card so I can't compare.

If you were reading the posts, the problems are either guitar hero 3 not working properly - not exactly the end of the world, read the review it said it was a buggy game - or crashes during installation. I'd say (the crashes) thats probably for people with agp versions of newer cards. Shame though anyways.

Reply to spoonboy

Update# tweaktown.com has a run down of the new catalyst. Performance generally down a fraction. Odd coments on some of the graphs though, where fps goes down they same performance takes a hit/very dissappointing, then where it goes up they say 'no change here'. OpenGL is up clearly, so why no quake wars results??? hmmm... There game selection is a little out of date, but nice that theyre on the case and have results out.

2900 owners, another free upgrade this month. 7.11 more or less it seems makes the 2900xt the same as a 3870, which means a small performance boost at high res + AA settings. Call of Juarez DX10 is down somewhat, but then again its a shoddy ass game imo.

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1227/1

Reply to spoonboy

For the record, ATI's Catalyst Drivers are RARELY buggy and usually perform without a hitch in most apps with every revision. For some reason my system didn't like 7.11 with GH 3. Not necissarilly 7.11 fault, but it was definetly a part of the problem.

For all I know it could be is a conflict between 7.11 and a process running in the background of my system when playing GH 3. Heck, it could have been just a bad install with some older driver conflicts. All I was saying is, I was too lazy to try to make it work as I knew it would work with 7.10's. And seeing as how nothing in the release notes made any difference to the games I was playing at the moment, there really was no sense in me spending time to get them up to code on my system when 7.10's worked perfectly fine.

ATI's driver releases, at least for me, are usually very stable and perform well, just some bad luck this time.

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Reply to Ibanezrg570

I noticed a significant performance increase in LOTRO with the 7.11's on my HD2900XT. I've been playing with ultra high quality settings but only 2x AA. Anything past 2X and it started to drag. I can now play with 8X AA enabled while still using ultra high settings and it is smooth as butter.this is in DX9. In DX10 mode*still in Ultra high with 8X enabled* there is a bit of chop here and there but still quite playable.Going to 4X AA solves it.

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Reply to Phin

randoMIZER wrote :

Apparently SLI/CF with them in crysis took a massive performance hit I read elsewhere.

I can see where Catalyst drivers could case a massive performance drop running SLI............

Reply to jitpublisher

Just an update on my GH 3 issue. I stopped being lazy and ran a complete clean install rather than just the update from 7.10's to 7.11's using Driver CLeaner Platinum and I have no more issues in GH 3.

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Reply to Ibanezrg570

After installing 7.11 Crysis was unplayable due to graphics corruption. (I should have taken some screenshots). I uninstalled all the ATi software and installed the Crysis hotfix version from a few days ago. Works fine now. It completely boggles my mind why 7.11 would not include the Crysis hotfix... WTF? Just doesn't make any sense.

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Reply to mtyermom

Phin wrote :

I noticed a significant performance increase in LOTRO with the 7.11's on my HD2900XT. I've been playing with ultra high quality settings but only 2x AA. Anything past 2X and it started to drag. I can now play with 8X AA enabled while still using ultra high settings and it is smooth as butter.this is in DX9. In DX10 mode*still in Ultra high with 8X enabled* there is a bit of chop here and there but still quite playable.Going to 4X AA solves it.

Have you read the performance review on hardocp.com?? Its says the 2900 gets beaten around by the DX10 patch in Lord of the Rings Online with catalyst 7.10. Hows does that artcile compare to what fps youve now got/been getting??

heres the link:

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/arti [...] VzaWFzdA==

By the way, the people who got guitar hero, does that mean youve splashed out on the plastic guitar controller?? I always felt silly using it :lol:

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Reply to spoonboy

mtyermom wrote :

After installing 7.11 Crysis was unplayable due to graphics corruption. (I should have taken some screenshots). I uninstalled all the ATi software and installed the Crysis hotfix version from a few days ago. Works fine now. It completely boggles my mind why 7.11 would not include the Crysis hotfix... WTF? Just doesn't make any sense.

Does sound odd they didnt do that, maybe its an insight into how they go about doing these things, like the hotfix was from a different development team or something. Hey-ho, have to wait for 7.12 I guess, or maybe even 8.0!

Reply to spoonboy

I'm actually still running 7.9 because I've been a little lazy. This thread makes me a little hesitant to go out and update also. Looks like I'll just wait for 7.12 as 7.9 hasn't rubbed me wrong yet

Reply to grimstar

spoonboy wrote :

Have you read the performance review on hardocp.com?? Its says the 2900 gets beaten around by the DX10 patch in Lord of the Rings Online with catalyst 7.10. Hows does that artcile compare to what fps youve now got/been getting??

heres the link:

http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/arti [...] VzaWFzdA==

By the way, the people who got guitar hero, does that mean youve splashed out on the plastic guitar controller?? I always felt silly using it :lol:

Thats the beauty of playing in your room where no one is around No one to see you look like a fool on that plastic guitar. Especially when you yourself are a REAL guitar player with a real guitar and amp sitting right beside the plastic toy

PS: My forum name should key you into what I play

Message edited by Ibanezrg570 on 11-25-2007 at 05:54:01 PM

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Reply to Ibanezrg570

While using the 7.10's in Lotro, I was able to play very smoothly, as long as i played under high settings*2 settings lower than Ultra High*and with AA disabled.Enabling AA under DX10 caused the screen corruption and almost completely black*inky with shades of grey*. ATI included the fix in the 7.11's and now things are good. ATI is finally starting to harness the power of the HD 2900XT and its making me happy

Reply to Phin

Im amazed its still improving after all this time. What you call a long term investment I guess.

Reply to spoonboy

The architecture of the HD2900XT and that of the HD3000 series is virtually identical besides a few upgrades to DX10.1 and pci-e 2.0 and a more efficient fabrication process. That being so, the HD2900XT will continue to realize more and more potential over the coming months and possibly years if AMD continues to use a similar path with its up and coming GPUs. I'm looking forward to the day when tessellation and all those shader processors are fully utilized in games. It will be a good day indeed

Reply to Phin

Yeah kind of funny to think the tesselator is just sitting there doing nothing for probably the next year or so. The 2900 just seems to keep on edging forward performance wise, even AA performance is pretty good now in DX9. Not the turkey everyone though it was initially, I always had faith! lol

Reply to spoonboy

Thanksgiving has come and gone , along with all the old turkeys

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Reply to Phin

The Catalyst 7.11 drivers finally let me set the refresh on my Acer 19" wide screen monitor to 75 Hz. I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I've been restricted to 60 Hz since i got the monitor.

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Reply to Battou

Battou wrote :

The Catalyst 7.11 drivers finally let me set the refresh on my Acer 19" wide screen monitor to 75 Hz. I thought it might be worth mentioning, as I've been restricted to 60 Hz since i got the monitor.

Sorry do you mean a crt monitor?

Whatever it is, you must have thought "ohh finally!!" lol

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