Right now I'm running a socket 939 Athlon X2 4600+ slightly overclocked by a few hundred mhz (~2.5gighz) on DFI LanParty NF4-D, 2 gigs Corsair XMS PC3200 2-3-3-6. Would I see any increase in performance if I switched to an OC'd Intel 2160 or 2180 using a gigabyte P35-DS3P motherboard and Corsair PC6400 4-4-4-12?
Lots of 2Gig DDR2-800 kits can be had $25-35 after MIR
So with a setup like this you get access to intels new 45nm chips which are just recently moving down from the extreme series to the consumer chip level. You can buy dirt cheap DDR2 for now and upgrade to DDR3 when it finally hits a consumer price level. You'd be limited to single card solutions from nvidia, but the mobo will run crossfirex with 1-4 GPUs just fine.
The foxconn has no problems running 400fsb and has been reported to hit 555fsb by pcstats. At 400fsb with 9x multi the chip would be rippin it up @3.6ghz but probably as high as it's capable of running. I'd recommend 400fsb with 8x multi for 3.2ghz and if it dies within a year? So what? It be a great reason to upgrade to what in the future will be a cheap 45nm chip.
That upgrade alone will give you better performance, but not much in reality. I am assuming the performance you want to increase is your gaming fps, right? If yes, what video card do you have? If your motherboard supports PCI-e, it may be better to just upgrade the video card to something nice and fast. The Intel 2160 and 2180, while faster, are not "leaps and bounds" better. The CPU you have is still pretty fast.
I agree to a certain extent, but an e2160 running at 3.2ghz will be noticably faster at everything and he current mobo is still running old DDR (not DDR2). The DDR2-800 memory will actually be almost 50% faster with the higher headroom and nearly identical block switch timing.
I wouldn't recommend a budget P35 board, but I would recommend something with the x38 chipset since it offers all the latest features and the ability to use a dirt cheap processor that overclocks like a beast. The only problem is that most of the other x38 boards make you choose DDR2 or DDR3 at the time of purchase. DDR3 just isn't worth the price atm.
Basically it's not worth upgrading from a decent AMD setup to an aging Intel chipset such as a P35 board. However, if you are planning to upgrade the CPU 1-2 times along with the graphics cards or to DDR3 memory in the case of the foxconn board then it would be worth the ($300.00) expense of swaping the board, cpu and memory.
e2160 - 70 bucks
x38a - 200 bucks
DDR2 - 30 bucks
Message edited by Perp on 03-21-2008 at 10:32:51 PM
Thanks for the replys. I upgraded from a 7800GT to an eVGA 8800 GTS 320MB and I've already bought 2gigs (2x1gig) corsair 4-4-4-12 ddr2 ram with DHX for $30. I noticed a dramatic increase in FPS in Crysis when I popped the 8800 in.
I'm relatively happy with my current setup, but I don't think the 4600+ and 2gigs (4x512) of DDR400 ram are up to par with my new video card.
...Or am I wrong?
They are not, you would see a bit of an increase. But, it won't be astounding. Probably manage 10-20% increase in performance. Which isn't shabby. It is just up to you if you wanted to spend the money...
That depends, basketcase. I would most definitely say that your old components are drastically holding back the 8800GTS 320MB.
For example, I had my Q6600 at 2.4GHz stock and a 8800GTS 320MB OC'ed. I ran 3dmark06 and got a score of ~11000. After OCing the Q6600 to 3.15GHz, I got a score of 13444. This is a Quad core cpu that's holding back the 8800GTS 320MB.
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Thanks for the replys. I upgraded from a 7800GT to an eVGA 8800 GTS 320MB and I've already bought 2gigs (2x1gig) corsair 4-4-4-12 ddr2 ram with DHX for $30. I noticed a dramatic increase in FPS in Crysis when I popped the 8800 in.
I'm relatively happy with my current setup, but I don't think the 4600+ and 2gigs (4x512) of DDR400 ram are up to par with my new video card.
...Or am I wrong?
Since you already upgraded the video card you can probably hold off on upgrading to an intel chipset if money is a concern.
You could also try browsing through some 3dmark06 scores for PCs with your graphics card combined with an overclocked 2160. Compare the resutls to yours and decide if it's financially worth the switch. However, I still advise againt switching to a P35 board (or 6xx nvidia board) since it's an aging platform.
Keep in mind that 3dmark06 is a processor dependant benchmark so your actual FPS gains would not be the same % gains you see in 3dmark06 scores, but it's the most widely used benchmark for comparing the gaming power of PCs.
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