x2 5000 black edition $99!

Would this be a good deal for a new build? I've found the black edition 5000 for only $99 on tigerdirect.com. Should I pick it up instead of the e2160 or e6750 i was planning on getting ?

$99 bones is a good price for the Black Edition, performs similar to the E6400.

OC'd, the BE can get 3.0 to 3.2.

Both the E2160, and the E6750, at 3.0, would spank the BE at 3.0.

I'm still stuck with s939... "sniffle"

Being a college student with no spending money sucks.

Thats one hell of a deal!
In the UK, the cheapest I've seen the BE for was equivalent to $160/170.
Thats a really nice price!
Now I (obviously) don't use American PC stores, but just had a look at the link, an E6750 is $200, surely not worth TWICE as much!?!?

Get the 2160

In other news, joining the ranks of Taco Bell, McDonalds, Burger King, and Wendy's, AMD is now offering a dollar menu.

He already knew C2D/E/Q is faster, but not everyone got an Intel board. One that o/c's well.

It depends on your current board.

I got one of these Black Editions for $99($107 shipped).

I realise that Intel offer better performance for the enthusiats, but at the sub ~$150ish price bracket I don't think Intel offer any great advantage. I'm not an expert, but I know how to budget. Mobo/cpu for $173

Can anyone suggest a decent HSF for my ASUS M2V motherboard? I'm a little concerned about some of the HS's that could be too big. I'm not a fan of Thermaltakes HSF's if that helps narrow it down.

How about this one?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835103031

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835887002

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A blind AMD fanboy/troll. Someone who has no life and feels like they need to root for the underdog. Someone who ignores benchmarks and will spin any benchmark into a win for AMD. Someone who willingly ignores facts in the hope that one day they will marry Sharikou. Someone who makes wild claims like "INTEL BK 2Q'08" that have no factual basis. Someone who comes onto the forums to blindly defend AMD in the hopes it will make their AMD based system faster.

A big part of this equation is the motherboard. I'm considering grabbing a 5000+ BE right now to get me through the rest of this year (or so) because I really like the 790FX motherboards with thier OC and CrossFireX support. This obviously means I'm basically buying a bit of time until AMD can come up with something better/revised than current Phenoms, but I suppose that's a bit of a gamble in itself.

Another thing to consider and watch out for is that there are early reports on the xtreme and anandtech forums about A64 processors overclocking extremely well (A64 BE to 3.54 on air) because of the chipsets support for HT 3.0. Anandtech should have an article up early next week about this, so I'd watch out for that.

Ditto. The 1 MB L2 chips like the E2160 take quite a fair-sized hit in performance, especially in games. The 2 MB L2 units like the E4500 perform about 10% better clock-for-clock and are not terrifically more expensive than the E2100 series CPUs. I'd also recommend the E4500 or E4600 over a 4 MB Core 2 Duo as the new ones all have 1333 MHz FSBs, which gives you a much lower multiplier. If you have a budget board, you'll not be able to bump the FSB clock up a whole ton over 333 MHz, so starting at 200 MHz gives you a lot more headroom than at 333 MHz. You'll get a much higher OC out of the E4500 or E4600 than an E6550 or E6750 and the difference in clock speed will more than make up for the difference in performance due to the 2 MB vs. 4 MB cache (roughly 7%.)

It also bears mention that a 5000+ Black Edition can do well on a *really* cheap board as you can overclock it by simply adjusting the unlocked multiplier and not touching the bus speed. You can also get up to 3 GHz or so without even touching the Vcore, which might not be very adjustable on a cheap board. So long story short, the 5000+ BE is your best bet for an absolute bang-for-buck platform, but an OC'd E4500/E4600 will perform much better than an OC'd 5000+ BE. You should be able to get the same or maybe a touch more clock speed out of the E4500/E4600 than out of the 5000+, and the C2D is 15-20% faster at the same clocks. But the E4500/E4600 and motherboard will be more expensive- take your pick.

I'm tempted to upgrade my wife's 3800+, but I don't know if her ASUS 690G motherboard will overclock. I might just spring for a 6400+ instead. Last I time I looked, it was $179 at Newegg.

Then again, hybrid Crossfire boards and dual core Phenoms are coming out by February...

Quite good.

What was your joke all those years Intel was offering Spaceheater Netburst architecture at one half the performance of AMD?

How about this? "Intel systems serve double duty in those long Yukon winter nights where lonely men struggle to keep their cabins warm". Now, why did Tom's not have an article critical of the new Pentiums: "There's more to CPU performance than clockspeed: New C2D Pentiums fail to toast the competitors due to low cache while failing to keep arctic cabins warm."

I can't wait till the table eventually turn. Intel has a penchant for not improving tech when their competition is lying down on the job, like AMD is doing with Phenom today.

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TC .... Troll Coordinator.

Iv'e figured it out ... his true form was hidden in plain sight ... all this time.

LMFAO ....

5000+ black ... or an E6750 ... major decision being ... what mobo do you have now? If you have an AM2 then for the 5000+ and OC to 3.0gig. If its a build from scratch then get a Qcore compatable mobo - chuck in a cheap E2 series and save up for a Q6600 (or buy it outright). AMD has no competition at the high end at the moment ... tho I cherish them dearly !! heh heh heh ...

Good description of my old P4 HT!

OK, now even I laughed at that one!

Now you are starting to scare me..................

I'm a college student on a budget. So look at it from my point of view. I want to spend as little as possible $600-700 and get a pretty good system. Now wouldn't any dual core amd or intel be a lot better than my current 2.6ghz northwood p4?

Also i've really been itching to try an amd. I think that either the black edition or the x2 6000 would be a good choice for me.