OK all of you have heard about 8800GT, but do you know what's next for NVidia GPU?
First there is the GeForce 8800 GTS SSC. It is essentially identical to the GeForce 8800 GTS based on the 90nm G80 core. However, where typical 8800 GTS components only enables 96 of the 128 stream processors of the G80 core, the 8800 GTS SSC enables 112 stream processors -- the same number featured on the GeForce 8800 GT.
And yet in December, GeForce 8800 GTS is expected to undergo another revision as the company moves from the 90nm G80 core to the 65nm D8P. Vendors will introduce 112 stream processor and 128 stream processor revisions on G92 or now known as D8P.
So basically before this year's end NVidia will have a version of 90 nm 8800 with 128, 112 and 96 core with various speed and various amount of memory. NVidia will also have a version of 65 nm 8800 with 128 and 112 core with various speed and various amount of memory.
I know buying a new GPU could be a complicated mater. But if NVidia really released all those GPU before this year's end then buying a new GPU would need a herculean effort. There will be just too much version of 8800. And what will happed to the price?
Nohing to add but Damn, You are right about buyers confusion caused by Nvidia's naming schemes and product revisions. And these are issues that confuse more advanced buyers, while the average Joe or novice gpu shopper is doomed without help from someone more knowledgable or a very concentrated research effort. I think that ATI has just taken a step in the right direction, perhaps nvidia will follow suite at some point.
How does it confure more advanced buyers? 8800GTS old, 8800GTS 112, and G92 8800GTS. Its quite simple, its not like not-in-th-know buyers know what they want anyway they jsut get what a few people tell them too or w/e is most expensive.
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Reply to Hatman
All I want for Christmas is a revised G92 8800 GTX that beats the pants off the current GTX/Ultra even the overclocked ones for less than $600. Whats so flipping hard about that Nvidia...I want to play Crysis faster than 20 fps all high settings 1920 x 1200, more like 50 to 60 fps...So bring it already!
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Reply to soldier37
The most likely reason for keeping old names is not wanting to canibalize the sales of older(G80) products. Otherwise the G80 products would have to move down into the mainstream reducing profit margins to clear supplies of older cards.
A smart move for NVIDIA building hype, but average-Joe customer gets to pay more for old stock (maybe the low stock of G92 was not without it's reasons as well).
In the end mom and dad buyers get what they can buy for the kiddies to play over christmas and new year holidays. A wise move indeed.
Message edited by Andrius on 11-25-2007 at 05:26:49 PM
I know buying a new GPU could be a complicated mater. But if NVidia really released all those GPU before this year's end then buying a new GPU would need a herculean effort. There will be just too much version of 8800. And what will happed to the price?
What do you think?
I think people better hover over Newegg like a fox watching a henhouse, or else all those cards will be out of stock and it won't matter all that much until January. Plus, they're raising prices beyond the MSRP regardless of availability.
There's also going to be a 256 meg version of the 8800GT to compete with the X3850. Newegg has the following above all their X3850's: "special holiday savings ends 11/27". So, I expect price increases beyond the $179 MSRP just like with the X3870's jump to around $264 from $219.
Nvidia will have the old and the new 8800GTS, the regular and the budget 8800GT. I'm guessing that, unless people want to wait, they'll get whatever card they can click on when they have the money to buy. Though there are performance differences, I think people will only suffer with new games if they have the 8800GTS 320 old card or the 8800GT 256 new card. X3850 owners with 256 megs of RAM will suffer too. Then again, maybe higher settings with low textures won't be that bad in many games?
My only complaint with both companies is not the number of cards, but the fluctuation in price and the limited availability of the latest and best. It's a typical holiday season launch once again.
Though there are performance differences, I think people will only suffer with new games if they have the 8800GTS 320 old card or the 8800GT 256 new card.
But you are forgetting for a moment that those are still considered high end cards and will suffice for the vast majority of consumers anyway. If they are enthusiasts, they will pick up on the nuances and agonize over performance charts and price-per-frame tests. Otherwise, as you say, they will get what they can afford and likely still be very happy. The older stock and lower memory cards are still very good.
Hell I had my cousin over last night, and I fired up crisis to show off my 8800 320mb. I had it set to just above medium to get a solid 30-40 fps frame rate, but then I flipped it over to the "unplayable" all high settings at 10-20 fps, and he was more than happy.
Moral of the story: It's hard to use the word "suffer" when discussing any card from the 8800 series, period.
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