$4000 Budget Gaming Rig - Need Help

Hello,

Ok, you guys have convinced me that I should go cheaper. Could someone like customize a rig and post it here so I could see how I should change some components. Yes I would like my comp to be future proof for at least 3 years and still run games very smooth.

Someone posted how more powerful components will be coming out in 6 WEEKs, could someone tell me like whats coming out?


Thank You

I have done many research, deciding which components would best fit my needs. What I look into my gaming rig is extreme performance, fast, durable, high tech, long lasting. I have configured 2 systems that I cant decide which to choose; If you guys could help me out here I would appreciate it. I will mainly be using my system for Gaming, I will also be watching movies, online activities, and school work. Games that I will be playing: Battlefield 2, Call of Duty 4, Counter Strike Source, Return To Castle Wolfenstien: ET, Command & Conquer Generals and Tiberium Wars. Here are my two configured gaming rigs:


GAMING RIG A

Video Card $730 [www.tigerdirect.com]
BFG GeForce 8800 Ultra OC / 768MB GDDR3 / SLI Ready / PCI Express / Dual Link Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card


Sound Card $180 [www.tiger direct.com]
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Platinum


Power Supply $390 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Toughpower W0133RU ATX12V / EPS12V 1200W Power Supply 115/230 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified


Processors $1150 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 Processor EU80569XJ080NL - 45nm, 3.0GHz, 12MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Yorkfield XE, Quad-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor


Case $200 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Silver ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail


Hard Drive $185 ($370) [www.newegg.com]
2x Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive


Motherboard $300 [www.newegg.com]
GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard


Memory/ Ram $490 ($980) [www.newegg.com]
2x CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory


Optical Drive $35 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Lite-On LH-20A1P SuperAllwrite DVD Burner - 20x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW, Black


Operating System $140 [www.directron.com]
Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 64-Bit Operation System Software, Model: ZAT-00094. 1 Pack. OEM


Network Card $40 [www.directron.com]
D-Link DGE-560T PCI-Express Gigabit Network Adapter, up to 2Gbps, VLAN, Flow
Control, High-Speed, ds-dh


GAMING RIG B

Memory $295 ($590) [www.newegg.com]
2x CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory


Hard Drive $185 ($370) [www.newegg.com]
2x Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive


Video Card $580 ($1160) [www.newegg.com]
2x BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card


Processor $1050 [www.directon.com]
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor BX80562QX6850, 3.0 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 8 MB L2 Cache, 65 nm


Case $200 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Silver ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 25CM Fan


Motherboard $350
Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Socket 775 ATX Main board, nForce 680i SLI Chipset


Power Supply $390 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Toughpower W0133RU ATX12V / EPS12V 1200W Power Supply 115/230 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified


Sound Card $180 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Platinum


Optical Drive $35 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Lite-On LH-20A1P SuperAllwrite DVD Burner - 20x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW, Black


Operating System $140 [www.directron.com]
Microsoft Windows XP PRO x64 Edition Operation System Software ZAT-00124, SP2c 64-bit on CD for OEM Computers Only, 1 Pack. OEM


Network Card $40 [www.directron.com]
D-Link DGE-560T PCI-Express Gigabit Network Adapter, up to 2Gbps, VLAN, Flow Control, High-Speed, ds-dh


Do I have a good optical drive that will support my games, and dvds, and can I burn on it? Did I choose a good network card that will increase my cable modem spee? (Charter High-Spped)

Please tell me your review of the two Gaming Rig's, which one is powerfuler than the other? Any changes you would make? Which Gaming Rig would you choose?


Thanks For Your Help.
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  1. any thoughts?
  2. Some members around here reported the GA-X38T-DQ6 can't run 4 sticks of ddr2 at speed higher than 800mhz.
  3. Oh,I think you got that confused with the GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6

    The GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6 can support DDR3 at 1600mhz.

    Check the specs:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128068
  4. Anyone who is going to spend $4000 on a "gaming rig" needs help in a big way.
  5. Why do you need a $400 1200W PSU? That's just an arrogant waste of money. As is 4GB of DDR3 memory for $1000. Also $500 for DDR2 memory that you can get for $100? It appears you are just trying to waste money or are trying to flaunt that you have so much that you could care less if you waste $1000.

    My 2 cents.
  6. Yeah, you are putting a lot of money into little performance. Drop the DDR3 ram, maybe go with PC8500, you should be able to get 2gig for around $150. If you're spending over a grand on a CPU you might as well go with the 45nm chip. Drop the 8800 Ultra/GTX and get 2 8800GT or Hd 3870s. Send me some money since you have so much!
  7. My advice: pick parts that are just a small step down and save your self like $2k... and spend that money on other things... like beer.. or a woman... or both if your lucky!

    lets just let him waste his money... then in a few months he can come back crying when his machine is out dated.
  8. Also about the optical drives:

    The samsung is a much better burner, and obviously it will support your games (why wouldnt it...). However the samsung isnt all that great when it comes to ripping dvds... The liteon should kick its ass in that department.
  9. I can build 2 very nice gaming rigs for $4000. Sometimes more is not more, as in this case, you are just wasting money.
  10. Hrm, $4000 worth of "gaming" computer and not a word on a monitor?
  11. I would get DDR2 ram, PC Power and Cooling 800W PSU, 8800GTX or GT, a Q6600. Board is a little overkill too. You really don't need to spend that kind of money if you need help. You are paying for items that you may not take advantage of.
  12. ASUS P5N32-E SLI $205
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131073

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 $280
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

    Antec Nine Hundred $135
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

    OCZ Titanium XTC 4GB(2 x 2GB) $196
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227270

    2 x XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800GT $270 x 2 = $540
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252

    AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude $200
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005

    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad $180
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

    SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X $34
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153

    2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB RAID-0 setup $125 x 2 = $250
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288

    Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler $65
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140

    Scythe SY1225SL12SH 120mm Case Fan $9
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185060

    2 x Thermaltake Du Orb $43 x 2 = $86
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106112

    Dell 30" $1399
    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=222-7175

    Total $3579

    Overclock the Q6600 to 3.2ghz no problems.. Overclock both 8800GT's to 700mhz clock no problems.. would kick the **** out of what you have there (prolly barring the GTX SLI but not much in it) for less and with 30" monitor
  13. If you have $4k to blow on a PC I'm not sure that "budget" is the right word to use. I'd rather buy a bad-ass $2k rig right now and then another $2k rig 2 years from now that'll absolutely smoke your $4k rig when it's two years old, but that's just me.
  14. Rodney makes one hell of a point.
  15. Q6600 and 2x8800gt or 4xHD 3870 in SLI/CF respectively. Don't get any of that "8800 Ultra" crap when you could SLI or CF for much cheaperand get better performance. Might consider a highend cooling solution like danger-den. Highend air cooling is great, but liquid will be nearly silent. Get a 24" samsung, don't drop $1200+ on a 30" dell. Get a 620w Corsair HX or a 700w PCP&C PSU - something that is on tier 1 of the official tiered PSU list. Don't get the OCZ ram; insted check out this stuff:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231065
    OCs up to 1200Mhz, it will go nicely with that q6600 when you get past 3.0Ghz. Get ONE raptor for you OS and drop a little more money on a good, quiet 7200rpm 500Gb-1Tb disk. I agreed with these guys, don't blow $4,000 on a gaming rig.
  16. Whats to consider is this mobo only supports DDR3, I can get the X38(which supports DDR2) instead of the X38T. Or do you know if this mobo (X38T) supports DDR2?

    Also I will only go with Corsair dominator or XMS Ram's (1066mhz) nty to 800mhz.

    I either want Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 or QX8650.

    Also this board (X38) does not support SLI so either I buy the best video card I can get, or change mobo to get SLI. (Which I dont want to do because I really want the 45nm processor).

    Also Iam not interested in a PSU under 1000W.

    I will be getting a 22" Hp W2207.

    And I like GIGABYTE boards more than ASUS.

    Also I want my hard drive to be 10kRPM.

    Also I only want BFG company video cards.

    And I love my current Case.

    Not interested in Vista; now how can you help me out?
  17. deuce271 said:
    Why do you need a $400 1200W PSU? That's just an arrogant waste of money. As is 4GB of DDR3 memory for $1000. Also $500 for DDR2 memory that you can get for $100? It appears you are just trying to waste money or are trying to flaunt that you have so much that you could care less if you waste $1000.

    My 2 cents.


    I would pay $500 for 4GB of DDR2 ram because it has a lower latency of 3-4-3-9; which I think will overall be worth it. And I'm not interested in a PSU under 1000W (thats just the way Iam) I am looking into technology of the future, even if it increases my systems performance by 5% thats still a boost, I want new/ high tech components.
  18. Yes monster energy drinks rocks,

    But If I put dual 8800 Ultra in sli it will be unbeatable, and I dont care if its $1400; the overall out perforamce will be better than anyother video card thats out right now. (IDK what the future of video cards holds; but I cant wait, I've ben planning for this since August, took me a long time to decide wat I want, but now I am here making my final chooce before I purchase, planning on purchasing in december, If a new Video card comes out that can beat dual 8800 ultras than I'll get those but only if they come before Jan.
  19. Umm...I am pretty sure that 4xHD 3870 could beat 2 SLI'd Ultras...
  20. Well, here are some of my recomendations.

    Case CoolerMaster 830 Evo $155.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119122

    FSP Group Everest 1010 ATX12V V2.2/EPS V2.91 1000W Power Supply $230.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817104041

    G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) $150.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231145

    GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 $270.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128066

    Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 Yorkfield 3.0GHz $1100.00

    Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm Case Fan 11EA $125.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185006

    Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler $65.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140

    2EA Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB $250.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288

    2ea Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 $440.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102713

    APC BE750BB 750 VA 450 Watts 10 Outlets UPS $90.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842101002

    SAMSUNG 245BW Black High Glossy 24" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD $450
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001234

    AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz $200.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005

    Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Max Burst Power: 200 watts $160.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836119008

    2ea PLEXTOR Black 18X DVD+R $150.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827249020

    SIIG JU-91RW12-S4 9-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader/Write + Floppy $40.00
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815150058

    Both the Motherboards you picked are for AMD GPU's, unless you go single card. If you want SLI then the only pick is a good 680i board, like EVGA.
  21. The ultra isn't so high and mighty anymore
    http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/246300-33-make-8800gt-runs-ultra
  22. Okay, the HP w2207 is not a gaming monitor to begin with, and you don't need SLI anything with that monitor. A single 8800GT will run almost all the games you listed at 1680*1050 easily. The ONLY reason you'll need to SLI 8800Ultra's is for 2560*1600 resolution.
  23. Where do people get all this money?
  24. neoxblu1 said:
    I would pay $500 for 4GB of DDR2 ram because it has a lower latency of 3-4-3-9; which I think will overall be worth it. And I'm not interested in a PSU under 1000W (thats just the way Iam) I am looking into technology of the future, even if it increases my systems performance by 5% thats still a boost, I want new/ high tech components.


    Well it obviously seems that you already know what you want... so what was the point of this thread?
  25. Well I tell you what, play the waiting game, coz somebody like you will never be satisfied.
  26. rodney_ws said:
    If you have $4k to blow on a PC I'm not sure that "budget" is the right word to use. I'd rather buy a bad-ass $2k rig right now and then another $2k rig 2 years from now that'll absolutely smoke your $4k rig when it's two years old, but that's just me.


    2 years? Heck, by this time Next year it will be smoked.

    I suspect Intel will have their new chips out and no doubt we will have true new high end GPUs out.

    It may even be just 6 months till that system is dated.
    By that time, Intel may have new Steppings for the Penryn out, these are just the first ones out the door.
    The in 6months they will likely be OCing to even more insane levels :>
    Also the new 8800GTS should be out that supposedly beats the 8800GT which may put it ahead of the 8800GTX.


    And as Rodney said, buy yourself a Decent System and upgrade it as stuff comes out.
  27. runswindows95 said:
    Okay, the HP w2207 is not a gaming monitor to begin with, and you don't need SLI anything with that monitor. A single 8800GT will run almost all the games you listed at 1680*1050 easily. The ONLY reason you'll need to SLI 8800Ultra's is for 2560*1600 resolution.



    what monitor should I get than thats 22" or 20" that also has a nice sleek design?
  28. Are these Samsungs good gaming monitors?

    SAMSUNG 206BW Black 20" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 800:1 (DCR 3000:1)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001095


    SAMSUNG 226BW Black 22" 2 ms (GTG) DVI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 700:1(DC 3000:1)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001096

    Also whats wrong with the HP W2007/W2207?
  29. great waste of money
  30. hell yeah
  31. The HP W2007 is just as good as Samsung 206BW

    except samsun has 2ms and hp has 5ms...

    Samsun has contrast ratio os 800:1 hp has 1000:1

    hp has a sleeker design
  32. With the system you are building a 20 or 22' monitor is well, stupid. If your going to have dual GPU's and a top of the line CPU. Then you want a 24" or bigger LCD. If you think about it your case, PSU, and LCD will out last everything else. It's like buying a HD DVD and BLU-Ray player for a analog TV.
  33. Just by reading what the OP wrote, you can tell he's half retarded.
  34. Any recemmenations for monitors?

    I like Samsung, Sony, and Hp the best; but if you got a good gaming monitor tell me.

    THANX
  35. Noya said:
    Just by reading what the OP wrote, you can tell he's half retarded.



    Whats an OP?
  36. joewho said:
    With the system you are building a 20 or 22' monitor is well, stupid. If your going to have dual GPU's and a top of the line CPU. Then you want a 24" or bigger LCD. If you think about it your case, PSU, and LCD will out last everything else. It's like buying a HD DVD and BLU-Ray player for a analog TV.


    What about just one GPU? Either Nvidia 8800 GTX or ULTRA; would I still need 24" +
  37. With the cash your spending, and with gaming in mind. Yes, 24" or better. If you want to save some cash, drop the $1100 CPU and go dual GPU's. You will get more from them than your CPU. The Gigabyte board and 2ea HD3870's would be very nice with a 24" LCD. If you plan to overclock a X3220/Q6600 or X3230/Q6700 will do the trick.
  38. For gaming: Matrox TripleHead + 3 - 19" monitors (total $1k). Add that to about $1k worth of hardware and you've got a great gaming rig.

    OP = original poster.
  39. 3 monitors? wow
  40. How much more performance will I see if I get dual Nvidia 8800 GTX compared to single Nvidia 8800 ULTRA? Is the ULTRA enought or should I have to sacrafice 45nm processor so I can have SLI with 65nm processor?
  41. I love the maturity of half the posts in this thread.

    There *should* be a new 8800GTS that comes out on December 3 with 1 GB of RAM. One of these *should* beat anything out now. The Ultra is a unqualified waste of money. Even if you can afford it, it is just stupid to buy it.
  42. Yep, only buy the ultra if you really want to waste money. With the exception of better memory, it is essentially an overclocked GTX.

    @boner: Stop double posting in every thread with like 2-3 words.
  43. nukchebi0 said:
    I love the maturity of half the posts in this thread.

    There *should* be a new 8800GTS that comes out on December 3 with 1 GB of RAM. One of these *should* beat anything out now. The Ultra is a unqualified waste of money. Even if you can afford it, it is just stupid to buy it.

    I totally agree. It's just not worth it...but hey if you got the money to burn why not? When given $100 million and you can't invest it, it's hard to burn.

    Pretty much buy the top of everything and that's that. The build you got listed is great to me, I can't complain other than it's expensive. However I would like to suggest you to get Noctua 120mm fans because they are really quiet and blows a heck lot of air for the noise. obtw it costs $25 each, not much right? :pt1cable:
  44. Juste one thing or two or three...
    Why in your suggestion you didn't mention the tj-09 or tj-07 for case. I got one and it's really nice to havemovable tray for the motherborad to got place to work.
    I just do the math with the option and think I great PSU 850W will be enough.
    One last thing even if you spend 4, 5 or 10 k on a computer, if you don't have ups to protect it you missed a point. Or maybe you plan to build an other one next year...
    Thanks
  45. jive said:
    Juste one thing or two or three...
    Why in your suggestion you didn't mention the tj-09 or tj-07 for case. I got one and it's really nice to havemovable tray for the motherborad to got place to work.
    I just do the math with the option and think I great PSU 850W will be enough.
    One last thing even if you spend 4, 5 or 10 k on a computer, if you don't have ups to protect it you missed a point. Or maybe you plan to build an other one next year...
    Thanks



    I belive that the Thermale Armor Series Full ATX Tower looks better than the TJ09 or the TJ07. Also I belive it has better air blow, and cooling.
  46. neoxblu1 said:
    Whats an OP?


    LOL! Priceless.
  47. firstly I hate you for having that much money on a toy (no I don't)
    but throw in a sound card I didn't happen to see one but I may have been a bit hasty ...just trying to save you a few measly mb'a of memory and miniscule amounts of processing power amounts...dude anything you buy should rock at that price.
  48. The OP is a dimwit. Just let him waste his money.
  49. Friend, don't waste your money on a computer like that. If you absolutely want to spend $4000, you should look into hooking your new PC up to a nice TV and perhaps getting an Xbox360 or PS3 to go with it as well. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16889101108
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