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November 18, 2007 6:39:21 AM

Hello,

Ok, you guys have convinced me that I should go cheaper. Could someone like customize a rig and post it here so I could see how I should change some components. Yes I would like my comp to be future proof for at least 3 years and still run games very smooth.

Someone posted how more powerful components will be coming out in 6 WEEKs, could someone tell me like whats coming out?


Thank You

I have done many research, deciding which components would best fit my needs. What I look into my gaming rig is extreme performance, fast, durable, high tech, long lasting. I have configured 2 systems that I cant decide which to choose; If you guys could help me out here I would appreciate it. I will mainly be using my system for Gaming, I will also be watching movies, online activities, and school work. Games that I will be playing: Battlefield 2, Call of Duty 4, Counter Strike Source, Return To Castle Wolfenstien: ET, Command & Conquer Generals and Tiberium Wars. Here are my two configured gaming rigs:


GAMING RIG A

Video Card $730 [www.tigerdirect.com]
BFG GeForce 8800 Ultra OC / 768MB GDDR3 / SLI Ready / PCI Express / Dual Link Dual DVI / HDTV / Video Card


Sound Card $180 [www.tiger direct.com]
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Platinum


Power Supply $390 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Toughpower W0133RU ATX12V / EPS12V 1200W Power Supply 115/230 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified


Processors $1150 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 Processor EU80569XJ080NL - 45nm, 3.0GHz, 12MB Cache, 1333MHz FSB, Yorkfield XE, Quad-Core, OEM, Socket 775, Processor


Case $200 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Silver ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 25CM Fan - Retail


Hard Drive $185 ($370) [www.newegg.com]
2x Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive


Motherboard $300 [www.newegg.com]
GIGABYTE GA-X38T-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Intel Motherboard


Memory/ Ram $490 ($980) [www.newegg.com]
2x CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory


Optical Drive $35 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Lite-On LH-20A1P SuperAllwrite DVD Burner - 20x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW, Black


Operating System $140 [www.directron.com]
Microsoft Windows XP Professional x64 Edition 64-Bit Operation System Software, Model: ZAT-00094. 1 Pack. OEM


Network Card $40 [www.directron.com]
D-Link DGE-560T PCI-Express Gigabit Network Adapter, up to 2Gbps, VLAN, Flow
Control, High-Speed, ds-dh


GAMING RIG B

Memory $295 ($590) [www.newegg.com]
2x CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory


Hard Drive $185 ($370) [www.newegg.com]
2x Western Digital Raptor X WD1500AHFD 150GB 10,000 RPM 16MB Cache Serial ATA150 Hard Drive


Video Card $580 ($1160) [www.newegg.com]
2x BFG Tech BFGR88768GTXOC2E GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card


Processor $1050 [www.directon.com]
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor BX80562QX6850, 3.0 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 8 MB L2 Cache, 65 nm


Case $200 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003SWA Silver ATX Full Tower Computer Case w/ 25CM Fan


Motherboard $350
Gigabyte GA-N680SLI-DQ6 Socket 775 ATX Main board, nForce 680i SLI Chipset


Power Supply $390 [www.newegg.com]
Thermaltake Toughpower W0133RU ATX12V / EPS12V 1200W Power Supply 115/230 V CE, CB, TUV, FCC, UL, CUL, and BSMI certified


Sound Card $180 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Fatality Platinum


Optical Drive $35 [www.tigerdirect.com]
Lite-On LH-20A1P SuperAllwrite DVD Burner - 20x DVD±R Burn, 16x DVD±R Read, 8x DVD+RW, 6x DVD-RW, 8x DVD±R DL, 12x DVD-RAM, 48x32x CD-R/RW, Black


Operating System $140 [www.directron.com]
Microsoft Windows XP PRO x64 Edition Operation System Software ZAT-00124, SP2c 64-bit on CD for OEM Computers Only, 1 Pack. OEM


Network Card $40 [www.directron.com]
D-Link DGE-560T PCI-Express Gigabit Network Adapter, up to 2Gbps, VLAN, Flow Control, High-Speed, ds-dh


Do I have a good optical drive that will support my games, and dvds, and can I burn on it? Did I choose a good network card that will increase my cable modem spee? (Charter High-Spped)

Please tell me your review of the two Gaming Rig's, which one is powerfuler than the other? Any changes you would make? Which Gaming Rig would you choose?


Thanks For Your Help.

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November 18, 2007 7:03:59 AM

any thoughts?
November 18, 2007 12:10:10 PM

Some members around here reported the GA-X38T-DQ6 can't run 4 sticks of ddr2 at speed higher than 800mhz.
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November 18, 2007 4:37:35 PM

Anyone who is going to spend $4000 on a "gaming rig" needs help in a big way.
November 18, 2007 4:41:34 PM

Why do you need a $400 1200W PSU? That's just an arrogant waste of money. As is 4GB of DDR3 memory for $1000. Also $500 for DDR2 memory that you can get for $100? It appears you are just trying to waste money or are trying to flaunt that you have so much that you could care less if you waste $1000.

My 2 cents.
November 18, 2007 5:01:49 PM

Yeah, you are putting a lot of money into little performance. Drop the DDR3 ram, maybe go with PC8500, you should be able to get 2gig for around $150. If you're spending over a grand on a CPU you might as well go with the 45nm chip. Drop the 8800 Ultra/GTX and get 2 8800GT or Hd 3870s. Send me some money since you have so much!
November 18, 2007 5:03:11 PM

My advice: pick parts that are just a small step down and save your self like $2k... and spend that money on other things... like beer.. or a woman... or both if your lucky!

lets just let him waste his money... then in a few months he can come back crying when his machine is out dated.
November 18, 2007 5:18:59 PM

Also about the optical drives:

The samsung is a much better burner, and obviously it will support your games (why wouldnt it...). However the samsung isnt all that great when it comes to ripping dvds... The liteon should kick its ass in that department.
November 18, 2007 6:09:06 PM

I can build 2 very nice gaming rigs for $4000. Sometimes more is not more, as in this case, you are just wasting money.
November 18, 2007 6:59:31 PM

Hrm, $4000 worth of "gaming" computer and not a word on a monitor?
November 18, 2007 8:00:24 PM

I would get DDR2 ram, PC Power and Cooling 800W PSU, 8800GTX or GT, a Q6600. Board is a little overkill too. You really don't need to spend that kind of money if you need help. You are paying for items that you may not take advantage of.
November 18, 2007 8:09:34 PM

ASUS P5N32-E SLI $205
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131073

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 $280
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

Antec Nine Hundred $135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129021

OCZ Titanium XTC 4GB(2 x 2GB) $196
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227270

2 x XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800GT $270 x 2 = $540
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150252

AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude $200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009

SAMSUNG Black 20X DVD+R 8X $34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151153

2 x Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB RAID-0 setup $125 x 2 = $250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148288

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835109140

Scythe SY1225SL12SH 120mm Case Fan $9
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185060

2 x Thermaltake Du Orb $43 x 2 = $86
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106112

Dell 30" $1399
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Monitors/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=222-7175

Total $3579

Overclock the Q6600 to 3.2ghz no problems.. Overclock both 8800GT's to 700mhz clock no problems.. would kick the **** out of what you have there (prolly barring the GTX SLI but not much in it) for less and with 30" monitor
November 18, 2007 8:25:59 PM

If you have $4k to blow on a PC I'm not sure that "budget" is the right word to use. I'd rather buy a bad-ass $2k rig right now and then another $2k rig 2 years from now that'll absolutely smoke your $4k rig when it's two years old, but that's just me.
November 18, 2007 8:47:28 PM

Rodney makes one hell of a point.
November 18, 2007 9:03:42 PM

Q6600 and 2x8800gt or 4xHD 3870 in SLI/CF respectively. Don't get any of that "8800 Ultra" crap when you could SLI or CF for much cheaperand get better performance. Might consider a highend cooling solution like danger-den. Highend air cooling is great, but liquid will be nearly silent. Get a 24" samsung, don't drop $1200+ on a 30" dell. Get a 620w Corsair HX or a 700w PCP&C PSU - something that is on tier 1 of the official tiered PSU list. Don't get the OCZ ram; insted check out this stuff:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OCs up to 1200Mhz, it will go nicely with that q6600 when you get past 3.0Ghz. Get ONE raptor for you OS and drop a little more money on a good, quiet 7200rpm 500Gb-1Tb disk. I agreed with these guys, don't blow $4,000 on a gaming rig.
November 18, 2007 9:13:22 PM

Whats to consider is this mobo only supports DDR3, I can get the X38(which supports DDR2) instead of the X38T. Or do you know if this mobo (X38T) supports DDR2?

Also I will only go with Corsair dominator or XMS Ram's (1066mhz) nty to 800mhz.

I either want Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 or QX8650.

Also this board (X38) does not support SLI so either I buy the best video card I can get, or change mobo to get SLI. (Which I dont want to do because I really want the 45nm processor).

Also Iam not interested in a PSU under 1000W.

I will be getting a 22" Hp W2207.

And I like GIGABYTE boards more than ASUS.

Also I want my hard drive to be 10kRPM.

Also I only want BFG company video cards.

And I love my current Case.

Not interested in Vista; now how can you help me out?


November 18, 2007 9:17:08 PM

deuce271 said:
Why do you need a $400 1200W PSU? That's just an arrogant waste of money. As is 4GB of DDR3 memory for $1000. Also $500 for DDR2 memory that you can get for $100? It appears you are just trying to waste money or are trying to flaunt that you have so much that you could care less if you waste $1000.

My 2 cents.


I would pay $500 for 4GB of DDR2 ram because it has a lower latency of 3-4-3-9; which I think will overall be worth it. And I'm not interested in a PSU under 1000W (thats just the way Iam) I am looking into technology of the future, even if it increases my systems performance by 5% thats still a boost, I want new/ high tech components.
November 18, 2007 9:22:11 PM

Yes monster energy drinks rocks,

But If I put dual 8800 Ultra in sli it will be unbeatable, and I dont care if its $1400; the overall out perforamce will be better than anyother video card thats out right now. (IDK what the future of video cards holds; but I cant wait, I've ben planning for this since August, took me a long time to decide wat I want, but now I am here making my final chooce before I purchase, planning on purchasing in december, If a new Video card comes out that can beat dual 8800 ultras than I'll get those but only if they come before Jan.
November 18, 2007 9:38:40 PM

Umm...I am pretty sure that 4xHD 3870 could beat 2 SLI'd Ultras...
November 18, 2007 9:55:47 PM

Well, here are some of my recomendations.

Case CoolerMaster 830 Evo $155.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

FSP Group Everest 1010 ATX12V V2.2/EPS V2.91 1000W Power Supply $230.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1000 (PC2 8000) $150.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 $270.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9650 Yorkfield 3.0GHz $1100.00

Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 120mm Case Fan 11EA $125.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler $65.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2EA Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3500320AS 500GB 7200 RPM 32MB $250.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2ea Radeon HD 3870 512MB 256-bit GDDR4 PCI Express 2.0 $440.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

APC BE750BB 750 VA 450 Watts 10 Outlets UPS $90.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG 245BW Black High Glossy 24" 5ms DVI Widescreen LCD $450
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 7.1 Channels 24-bit 192KHz $200.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 Max Burst Power: 200 watts $160.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2ea PLEXTOR Black 18X DVD+R $150.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SIIG JU-91RW12-S4 9-in-1 USB 2.0 Card Reader/Write + Floppy $40.00
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Both the Motherboards you picked are for AMD GPU's, unless you go single card. If you want SLI then the only pick is a good 680i board, like EVGA.
November 18, 2007 10:13:54 PM

Okay, the HP w2207 is not a gaming monitor to begin with, and you don't need SLI anything with that monitor. A single 8800GT will run almost all the games you listed at 1680*1050 easily. The ONLY reason you'll need to SLI 8800Ultra's is for 2560*1600 resolution.



November 18, 2007 10:16:12 PM

Where do people get all this money?
November 18, 2007 10:22:30 PM

neoxblu1 said:
I would pay $500 for 4GB of DDR2 ram because it has a lower latency of 3-4-3-9; which I think will overall be worth it. And I'm not interested in a PSU under 1000W (thats just the way Iam) I am looking into technology of the future, even if it increases my systems performance by 5% thats still a boost, I want new/ high tech components.


Well it obviously seems that you already know what you want... so what was the point of this thread?
November 18, 2007 10:28:42 PM

Well I tell you what, play the waiting game, coz somebody like you will never be satisfied.
November 18, 2007 10:55:22 PM

rodney_ws said:
If you have $4k to blow on a PC I'm not sure that "budget" is the right word to use. I'd rather buy a bad-ass $2k rig right now and then another $2k rig 2 years from now that'll absolutely smoke your $4k rig when it's two years old, but that's just me.


2 years? Heck, by this time Next year it will be smoked.

I suspect Intel will have their new chips out and no doubt we will have true new high end GPUs out.

It may even be just 6 months till that system is dated.
By that time, Intel may have new Steppings for the Penryn out, these are just the first ones out the door.
The in 6months they will likely be OCing to even more insane levels :>
Also the new 8800GTS should be out that supposedly beats the 8800GT which may put it ahead of the 8800GTX.


And as Rodney said, buy yourself a Decent System and upgrade it as stuff comes out.
November 18, 2007 11:04:14 PM

runswindows95 said:
Okay, the HP w2207 is not a gaming monitor to begin with, and you don't need SLI anything with that monitor. A single 8800GT will run almost all the games you listed at 1680*1050 easily. The ONLY reason you'll need to SLI 8800Ultra's is for 2560*1600 resolution.



what monitor should I get than thats 22" or 20" that also has a nice sleek design?
November 18, 2007 11:20:12 PM

great waste of money
November 18, 2007 11:25:14 PM

hell yeah
November 18, 2007 11:25:28 PM

The HP W2007 is just as good as Samsung 206BW

except samsun has 2ms and hp has 5ms...

Samsun has contrast ratio os 800:1 hp has 1000:1

hp has a sleeker design



November 18, 2007 11:31:51 PM

With the system you are building a 20 or 22' monitor is well, stupid. If your going to have dual GPU's and a top of the line CPU. Then you want a 24" or bigger LCD. If you think about it your case, PSU, and LCD will out last everything else. It's like buying a HD DVD and BLU-Ray player for a analog TV.
November 18, 2007 11:38:37 PM

Just by reading what the OP wrote, you can tell he's half retarded.
November 18, 2007 11:41:51 PM

Any recemmenations for monitors?

I like Samsung, Sony, and Hp the best; but if you got a good gaming monitor tell me.

THANX


November 18, 2007 11:43:14 PM

Noya said:
Just by reading what the OP wrote, you can tell he's half retarded.



Whats an OP?
November 18, 2007 11:44:28 PM

joewho said:
With the system you are building a 20 or 22' monitor is well, stupid. If your going to have dual GPU's and a top of the line CPU. Then you want a 24" or bigger LCD. If you think about it your case, PSU, and LCD will out last everything else. It's like buying a HD DVD and BLU-Ray player for a analog TV.


What about just one GPU? Either Nvidia 8800 GTX or ULTRA; would I still need 24" +
November 18, 2007 11:51:19 PM

With the cash your spending, and with gaming in mind. Yes, 24" or better. If you want to save some cash, drop the $1100 CPU and go dual GPU's. You will get more from them than your CPU. The Gigabyte board and 2ea HD3870's would be very nice with a 24" LCD. If you plan to overclock a X3220/Q6600 or X3230/Q6700 will do the trick.
November 18, 2007 11:54:11 PM

For gaming: Matrox TripleHead + 3 - 19" monitors (total $1k). Add that to about $1k worth of hardware and you've got a great gaming rig.

OP = original poster.
November 18, 2007 11:58:58 PM

3 monitors? wow
November 19, 2007 12:02:02 AM

How much more performance will I see if I get dual Nvidia 8800 GTX compared to single Nvidia 8800 ULTRA? Is the ULTRA enought or should I have to sacrafice 45nm processor so I can have SLI with 65nm processor?
November 19, 2007 12:04:36 AM

I love the maturity of half the posts in this thread.

There *should* be a new 8800GTS that comes out on December 3 with 1 GB of RAM. One of these *should* beat anything out now. The Ultra is a unqualified waste of money. Even if you can afford it, it is just stupid to buy it.
November 19, 2007 12:47:57 AM

Yep, only buy the ultra if you really want to waste money. With the exception of better memory, it is essentially an overclocked GTX.

@boner: Stop double posting in every thread with like 2-3 words.
November 19, 2007 12:48:14 AM

nukchebi0 said:
I love the maturity of half the posts in this thread.

There *should* be a new 8800GTS that comes out on December 3 with 1 GB of RAM. One of these *should* beat anything out now. The Ultra is a unqualified waste of money. Even if you can afford it, it is just stupid to buy it.

I totally agree. It's just not worth it...but hey if you got the money to burn why not? When given $100 million and you can't invest it, it's hard to burn.

Pretty much buy the top of everything and that's that. The build you got listed is great to me, I can't complain other than it's expensive. However I would like to suggest you to get Noctua 120mm fans because they are really quiet and blows a heck lot of air for the noise. obtw it costs $25 each, not much right? :pt1cable: 
November 19, 2007 12:59:00 AM

Juste one thing or two or three...
Why in your suggestion you didn't mention the tj-09 or tj-07 for case. I got one and it's really nice to havemovable tray for the motherborad to got place to work.
I just do the math with the option and think I great PSU 850W will be enough.
One last thing even if you spend 4, 5 or 10 k on a computer, if you don't have ups to protect it you missed a point. Or maybe you plan to build an other one next year...
Thanks
November 19, 2007 1:08:17 AM

jive said:
Juste one thing or two or three...
Why in your suggestion you didn't mention the tj-09 or tj-07 for case. I got one and it's really nice to havemovable tray for the motherborad to got place to work.
I just do the math with the option and think I great PSU 850W will be enough.
One last thing even if you spend 4, 5 or 10 k on a computer, if you don't have ups to protect it you missed a point. Or maybe you plan to build an other one next year...
Thanks



I belive that the Thermale Armor Series Full ATX Tower looks better than the TJ09 or the TJ07. Also I belive it has better air blow, and cooling.
November 19, 2007 1:13:00 AM

neoxblu1 said:
Whats an OP?


LOL! Priceless.
November 19, 2007 1:31:46 AM

firstly I hate you for having that much money on a toy (no I don't)
but throw in a sound card I didn't happen to see one but I may have been a bit hasty ...just trying to save you a few measly mb'a of memory and miniscule amounts of processing power amounts...dude anything you buy should rock at that price.
November 19, 2007 1:36:14 AM

The OP is a dimwit. Just let him waste his money.
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