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November 22, 2007 11:20:47 PM

Hi there, just wondering what you lot think of my proposed system I'm planning for the new year:

CPU: AMD AM2 Athlon 64 6000 + Dual Core 3.0GHz, 2x 1MB Cache, OEM
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-M56S-S3, NF560, S AM2, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 533/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS7500-CU LED 110mm Super Flower Cooler
RAM: 2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2 Dominator, PC2-8500 (1066)
RAM Cooler: Corsair Dominator Airflow Fan
Graphics Card: 512MB XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog, PCI-E (x16), 1800 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 600 MHz, 2 x Dual Link DVI-I
Primary Hard Drive: 250 Gb Seagate ST3250410AS Barracuda 7200.10, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache
DVD-Drive: Samsung SH-D163 Black, 48x CD-ROM 16x DVD-ROM, SATA, OEM
DVD-Writer: Samsung SH-S203B/BEBN 20x DVD±R, 16x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM
Case: Antec 900 - Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case
Power Supply: 600W Enermax Noisetaker
Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit 1Pk OEM (DVD)

This lot comes to around £720. Soundcard I already have (Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio) spare, and the motherboard already comes with on board audio and gig network. Basically want this to play the new DirectX 10 games at a decent level (hence the graphics card and Vista 64-bit) such as Unreal Tournament III, Crysis etc, although I'll be running these games at my 22" wide-screen monitors resolution of 1680x1050 so the FPS will be pretty decent. The problem is, the monitor isn't DVI enabled, so I'd lose out on some of the shiny graphics, but at this resolution I wont tell the difference anyway, as I only see DVI used for the higher resolutions.

So, most of the parts come together quite nicely for the price (ordering from UK), but any comments are welcome. I'm not after any extremely over-priced components, otherwise I would have listed them already!

Look forward to hearing your comments... :) 

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November 22, 2007 11:23:49 PM

E6750 will get ya more overclocking headroom. If you go Intel... you need a new board obviously... RAM is a bit extreme don't think you'll need more then PC6400.
Rest looks fine.
November 22, 2007 11:33:58 PM

Not one for knowing names, but I take it the E6750 is an Intel CPU? Either way, sticking with an AMD processor for now, as I've been eager to try one out for some time. As for the RAM, it's only about £92 (or about $180) and will be well worth it in my eyes. There is the more expensive version of my RAM, but that's about £300 - not what I'm after!

Also, I hope the 8800GT will actually fit on the board, as I know someone who bought a board and a capacitor was just in the wrong place so it couldn't fit. Also, I read that the EVGA 8800GT has a problem with the cooling fan sometimes, hopefully it isn't present on the XFX version... alot of money to find out if there is a problem!
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November 22, 2007 11:35:03 PM

ok. Keep the AMD then everything is fine
November 23, 2007 3:02:41 AM

Nice build.
November 23, 2007 3:45:19 AM

+1 E6750.....best value intel dual core at the moment.

AMD just don't cut it with their dual cores
November 23, 2007 3:37:42 PM

Hi there, thanks for the comments...

Is the E6750 chip really that popular? As I mentioned, will try and stick with the AMD chip. The E6750 chip over here is around £116(retail) compared to the chip I chose is around £86. Besides, AMD boards are usually a bit cheaper to the Intel ones, but if I did choose the E6750 chip, what motherboard would go well with it, as well as the other kit I have? But either way, I'll probably stick with the AMD processor.

Thanks for the comments!
November 23, 2007 4:05:14 PM

i would go with the e6750. if you choose it, go with a gigabyte p35 ds4 (or something along the ds lines). yes, it will be more expensive, but it will last longer. how long to you plan on keeping the pc? if it's not a long time, then go ahead and save the cash and get the amd.

and yes, evga picks horrible fans for their video cards. which is why i don't buy them anymore. that 7300gt that overheated...i needed that card. (i'll skip the story and the crying over my webserver that didn't operate. minus the crying..that never actually happened)

i even had a 5200 that failed because it's fan stopped working.
November 23, 2007 5:05:18 PM

Are you willing to overclock? If not stick with AMD. If you are go Intel.

I don't think you need that expensive RAM unless you are overclocking. (Also AMD CPUs only take advantage of 800mhz RAM.)
November 23, 2007 6:04:55 PM

I never had a need to overclock any of my PC's I had previously, so I won't with this next build. As for how long I intend to make it last, I'd say around 3 or so years (like the one I'm using now).

I may consider changing to Intel if needs be, but I know the RAM will work with it and lower its speed to compensate for the board and chip, but hopefully the reduction wont be too severe.

Thanks again - I'll be sure to look into these items!
November 24, 2007 12:58:18 AM

AMD is a waste of money, better of getting the e6750, and the 6000+ isnt 86 pounds, no chance. its about the same price as the e6750. plus you can get ram half the price no need to 1066 mhz wont make any difference, better of sending that money getting 800mhz 40quid ocz ram. and an asus p5k and a e6750, runs cooler uses less power and can OC. no reason not to oc.

so go with intel, very good and cheap, plus when you want to upgrade you dont have to buy a new board.

and no need for ram cooler unless you wana OC like man, the heat sink on the ram is fune.
November 24, 2007 1:25:46 AM

You will find the AMD chip at £86... take a look here: http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProdu...

As mentioned, it was OEM anyway (meaning no heat sink and fan). As for RAM, I trust Corsair compared to alot of other makes, simply due to the fact I've used them in the past, my mates use them and had never had a RAM issue at all.

But yes, it does look I'll change my setup to compensate for an Intel rig, using the E6750 chip (2.66GHz chip for £116, or a 2.33GHz chip for £104 - but not fussing over .33MHz) and a Gigabyte P35 board.

Gotta love changes!
November 24, 2007 1:26:23 AM

if you want to keep the AMD one you should get the AMD chipsets, they are more reliable and also of course the intel one will smoke yours but still if you want to save some bucks then go for it and overclock it
November 24, 2007 2:07:18 AM

Ok, since I can't edit my original post, I'll have to draft a new one up with the changes:

CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6750, S775, 2.66 GHz, 1333MHz FSB, Conroe Core, 4MB Cache, Retail
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L, iP35 Express, S 775, PCI-E (x16), DDR2 1066/667/800, SATA II, ATX
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS7500-CU LED 110mm Super Flower Cooler
RAM: 2GB (2x1GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800) (this is £38, bargain! May even be tempted to get a total of 4GB!)
Graphics Card: 512MB XFX 8800GT Alpha Dog, PCI-E (x16), 1800 MHz, GDDR3, GPU 600 MHz, 2 x Dual Link DVI-I
Primary Hard Drive: 250 Gb Seagate ST3250410AS Barracuda 7200.10, SATA300, 7200 rpm, 16MB Cache
DVD-Writer: Samsung SH-S203B/BEBN 20x DVD±R, 16x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM
Case: Antec 900 - Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer Case
Power Supply: 600W Enermax Noisetaker
Operating System: Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium 64Bit 1Pk OEM (DVD)

And there it is. My mate has offered to sell me his spare PSU (the exact one I'm after) for £60 (otherwise around £82) and says he can get the case cheaper (around £68 originally, but he hasn't said how much cheaper yet). Total for all this, including VAT comes to £664, which is actually a reduction in the original price of around £720 which I'm quite surprised over (savings are good, means I could get more RAM as I mentioned).

Thanks for the comments, really does help! :) 
November 24, 2007 2:14:58 AM

i got my x2 4000 cpu score for 3dmark 06 to 2453 is that good? my total score is 6234 with a x1950pro and 4 gig of ddr 1000
November 24, 2007 2:28:46 AM

Intel is the better choice, good change. Don't get 4G of RAM unless you are using a 64bit OS, it is a waste of money.
November 24, 2007 2:33:08 AM

The Vista I chose, if you take a look, was 64-bit :) 

The 4GB of RAM will obviously be optional (more is good though!), but 2GB will be fine for most... but could be fun trying it!
November 24, 2007 2:44:48 AM

Oops, I missed that. If it was XP I would say don't bother, but Vista likes to cache a lot. So you might get some value, depending on your use.
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