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December 16, 2007 4:40:21 PM

ok my dad is building himself a pc, he has the cpu(Pentium E2140 1.6ghz) and he has stupidly bought the ram(2gb ddr2 800mhz) before geting the motherboard. he wants a motherboard with onboard everything and capacity for 4gb of ram
(somthing similar to the foxconn 945G7MD-8EKRS2H)

so my question to you all is which board is the best for his needs and as cheap as possible

any help much appreciated

Atb.

VeeDubZ

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December 16, 2007 4:57:56 PM

If hes building a pc dont make it cheap and mess it up with that processor, now these days you need AT LEAST 2.00 ghz for applications.Just add a cheap core 2 duo man as processor, you'll need 2 cores at least now these days. Which only cost around 80-200 which are really good. Its socket LGA775 right? Also ddr2 800 mhz is pretty good ram at this time. He wants onboard video to right?

Is his case compatible with m-ATX boards?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... has onboard video for 85 then 65 with MIR

Get one of these core 2 duos, you wont be disspointed: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
December 16, 2007 5:24:52 PM

Any Intel 945G/Intel G965/AMD 690G board with 4 memory slots
will suit your need, so just check the image of the mainboard before
your purchase.
Don't blame your Dad, he didn't do anything wrong. Buying memory
before the mainboard is not necessarily a wrong thing, and by the way,
he actually bought the suitable memory ^_^...
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December 16, 2007 6:36:37 PM

Get a GOOD one, one that people has bought.
December 16, 2007 7:23:58 PM

I second the mobo tlmck suggested, thats a great mobo and fits what you are looking for, and don't listen to lozano about switching your CPU, the E2140 is an allendale just like the e6300 e6400, but with less cache, just OC it to as high as you can (maybe around 2.5 GHz) and it'll give you awesome performance for the price.
December 16, 2007 8:04:35 PM

lozano5 said:
Get a GOOD one, one that people has bought.


This is why we don't abuse drugs, children.
December 16, 2007 9:57:55 PM

Yeh i wouldnt go blaming the father either, he bought some good stuff. And hes your dad mine would slap me round if i abused him haha... i assume he looked after you for a few years too

I actually just built a HTPC for mine for chrissy... and got this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128072&Tpk=gigabyte%2b7100
HDMI, DVI-d, RGB, 1080p decoding, optical out, 7.1, firewire, e-sata... excellent and easy to setup his is also running a e2140 ;) 
a b V Motherboard
December 17, 2007 7:39:12 AM

chookman said:
Yeh i wouldnt go blaming the father either, he bought some good stuff. And hes your dad mine would slap me round if i abused him haha... i assume he looked after you for a few years too

I actually just built a HTPC for mine for chrissy... and got this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128072&Tpk=gigabyte%2b7100
HDMI, DVI-d, RGB, 1080p decoding, optical out, 7.1, firewire, e-sata... excellent and easy to setup his is also running a e2140 ;) 

I have the 690g version myself and am immensely pleased.
December 17, 2007 8:54:07 PM

tlmck said:
I have the 690g version myself and am immensely pleased.


and that would be?
a b V Motherboard
December 18, 2007 2:14:58 AM

OK guys, here's a little experiment I did today. I downloaded 3dMark06 and ran it on 3 machines.

One has a Q6700/8600GT and the demos looked decent, if a bit stuttering. Score almost 5000. Fps stayed between 10 and 20.

Then I tried an X2 5000+/integrated video machine. Score 183. Fps between 0 and 2. Demos horrible. Some demos were skipped completely.

Then I tried a Q6600/8800 GTX OC2 box. Score 12000. Fps 35 to 75, demos VERY nice, just like watching movies on TV, except for the one about CPU test 2 which was kind of slow.

The moral is, integrated video sucks big time. Maybe your Dad should consider getting an 8600GT if he can, it's under $200 and it makes an incredible difference. Even better, an HD 3850 costs around $200 and it's twice as fast as the 8600GT.
a b V Motherboard
December 18, 2007 6:18:07 AM

chookman said:
Thats an AMD motherboard. OP already has an intel CPU

Just making a comment about alternatives. That is why I replied to your comment and not the OP.
December 20, 2007 12:54:22 AM

aevm said:
OK guys, here's a little experiment I did today. I downloaded 3dMark06 and ran it on 3 machines.

One has a Q6700/8600GT and the demos looked decent, if a bit stuttering. Score almost 5000. Fps stayed between 10 and 20.

Then I tried an X2 5000+/integrated video machine. Score 183. Fps between 0 and 2. Demos horrible. Some demos were skipped completely.

Then I tried a Q6600/8800 GTX OC2 box. Score 12000. Fps 35 to 75, demos VERY nice, just like watching movies on TV, except for the one about CPU test 2 which was kind of slow.

The moral is, integrated video sucks big time. Maybe your Dad should consider getting an 8600GT if he can, it's under $200 and it makes an incredible difference. Even better, an HD 3850 costs around $200 and it's twice as fast as the 8600GT.



Thats all well and good if you have the money to spend and that you need that kind of RAW power. The onboard 7100 chip on my dad's HTPC that i built handles 1080p decoding so why would i need more on a HTPC? One would also debate that if you are going to spend ~200 on a 8600GT why not spend a few more and get a better HD3850... but hang if you get that you can get a HD3870 for ~$50 more so why not get that... oooh but wait 8800GT are only ~$50 more again why not get it there awesome... and it continues, you have to draw the line somewhere... and if its for a specific task that cheaper hardware can handle than why spend more?

Sorry tlmck didnt realise that was the case ;) 
a b V Motherboard
December 20, 2007 2:04:56 AM

Hmmm... Point taken. I shouldn't encourage them to spend $200 on a video card if they don't need it.

VeeDubZ, if your Dad wants to watch movies and play the occasional Solitaire, Mahjongg, Simcity or other "peaceful" things like that, integrated video is absolutely fine and he can save the $200.

The video card would help in things like Vista Aero or in games like WarCraft, but integrated video still has a chance even there if you're not too picky.

You do need a video card if you intend to play more demanding games. Check out these benchmarks here:
http://www23.tomshardware.com/graphics_2007.html
In general, these benchmarks tend to have all eye candy maxed, but in real life you can lower that and get more fps. Something like 30fps is acceptable to lots of people.

I'm not sure now, but I think integrated video supports only one monitor. If that's a problem then again a video card can solve it, but it doesn't have to be a $200+ card if you buy it just for that.

I hope this helps...

December 20, 2007 2:18:27 AM

aevm said:
I'm not sure now, but I think integrated video supports only one monitor. If that's a problem then again a video card can solve it, but it doesn't have to be a $200+ card if you buy it just for that.

I hope this helps...


The mobo i suggested above actually supports dual monitor as well but only through RGB and one of the digital ports (dvi or hdmi) but still a nice feature... not sure on the res support or decoding abilities with both enabled though.
a b V Motherboard
December 20, 2007 2:31:12 AM

That's a big plus for that mobo then. I'm spoiled with my two monitors, I'll never be able to work with just one again :) 
December 20, 2007 9:02:55 PM

Im working on getting 3 going ;)  2x19FS and 1x24WS in the middle mmmmm
!