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yes, another post about the Q6600, but please help me!

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November 24, 2007 9:30:10 PM

I know that this issue is all over the web, but i want ur guy's opinion.

This is how i got into this predicament.

Tigerdirect was holding this pink friday sale thing, giving all proceeds of certain items to Susan G Komen.
And so later in the day, i was listening to their all day webcast, and when the time came to auction off a Q6600, i made sure i was listening, they were auctioning it off for $169. I actually got it. That price is $30 less than the E6750 I was going to buy, and its a quad core (i know its not necessarily better performace, but its future proof.).

Anyway I was in the middle of building my computer...so this is what i have so far:
Core 2 Quad Q6600
Corsair XMS DDR2 800Mhz (cas latency 4) 2gb SLI certified memory (so if i put it in an SLI board, the Mhz jumps to 1200)

What mobo/graphics combo would supplement the Q6600 the best, I have taken a special interest to the X38 chipset (tho expensive) from intel. it offers PCI E 2.0 support, makes it more future proof, the problem is, I LOVE NVIDIA. and it supports ATI Crossfire. What should i do!?!??!

go with the X38 and get a radeon 3850 XT (pcie 2.0)
or go with an nvidia mainboard and get the $100 more 8800GT

any other ideas?
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November 24, 2007 9:58:13 PM

you dont need an nvidia motherboard to use a single nvidia GPU. Only if you want SLI do you need an nvidia chipset.

My recomendation is to get X38 and an 8800GT. The 8800GT is also PCIe-2.0.
November 24, 2007 10:05:20 PM

tscribs said:

Corsair XMS DDR2 800Mhz (cas latency 4) 2gb SLI certified memory (so if i put it in an SLI board, the Mhz jumps to 1200)

Huh? Are you sure about this?
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November 24, 2007 10:06:53 PM

im pretty sure, you might need to have all SLI certified products, AKA a nvidia mobo.
thanks for the help.

any more thoughts on this topic?

what about P35 vs. X38
i know there are some really good, stable P35 boards out, can the X38's match their quality?
November 24, 2007 10:16:23 PM

do all of the x38 boards support DDR2??!?!
or only DDR3?!?!
November 24, 2007 10:30:12 PM

almost all x38 mobos do support ddr2, and that is good ram. i have some :) 
about the sli stuff, i have no idea about doubling ram speed, i have never heard of that before.
also, there is no hd 3850xt. it is just hd3850 and hd3870. to repeat from above, if you are running one video card, chipset doesn't matter a bit. with two cards, yes, x38 and p35 will only run ati crossfire, not sli.
x38 can certainly match p35, but there are more p35. personally, i would recommend p35 as x38 is usually more expensive with no performance increase. (even pci-e 2.0 shows almost no performance gain over standard x16 pci-e slot).

side note, if you are planning on running sli or crossfire, be sure the board supports x16 x16 pci-e slots, as some split the lanes used when two cards are present to x8 x8, lowering performance somewhat.

3850 and 8800gt aren't really comparable, as they are in different performance ranges. 8800gt is my recommendation, though 3850 shows strong performance in lower resolutions, even against the 8800gt. i would take a look at the resolution you plan to run most of your games at and then check the benchmarks online for both cards. if the difference isn't enough for $100 more, i say go for hd3850. however, if you are gaming at anything higher than 1680x1050, 8800gt is the way to go.

p.s. if you are running 64-bit vista, you need to be looking at 2x2gb ram . the os uses quite a bit.
November 24, 2007 11:03:21 PM

actually yes, i am running vista 64 bit ultimate
yes, it does hog memory, i will look for some more maybe for the holidays
i do believe that the p35 only supports x8 x8 on crossfire
I will go with the x38 then, just because they have some really good mobos i just found, the asus/gigabyte ones are great.

i have never had an ATI card, what is the equivalent of the 8800GT???
this mobo is to last a long time.
November 24, 2007 11:21:31 PM

ati 3870, and do some overclocking
November 24, 2007 11:36:24 PM

tscribs said:



Corsair XMS DDR2 800Mhz (cas latency 4) 2gb SLI certified memory (so if i put it in an SLI board, the Mhz jumps to 1200)



I think you are referring to a Dual Chanel configuration. As far as I am concerned SLI do not effect RAM. Where did you hear that? I would really like to know.
November 24, 2007 11:48:26 PM

i know the real SLI doesnt affect RAM, but corsair calls this "sli certified memory"
and that means it jumps to 1200 on an nvidia board...i believe..i heard it yesterday from logan at tigerdirect during their all day webcast...and ive seen it before somewhere.
ill try to find it
November 25, 2007 3:02:00 AM

ok, so ive pretty much decided to go X38 with an 8800GT for the future proof ness with PCIE 2.0 and the other tech improvements.

does anyone own an X38 board??? and even one with an 8800GT? if so which specific products?
November 25, 2007 8:11:58 AM

tscribs said:
i know the real SLI doesnt affect RAM, but corsair calls this "sli certified memory"
and that means it jumps to 1200 on an nvidia board...i believe..i heard it yesterday from logan at tigerdirect
during their all day webcast...and ive seen it before somewhere.
ill try to find it


I'm 99% sure "SLI certified memory" is a marketing gimmick! OCZ does the same thing.

Here is a example:

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_sli_ready_edition

and

http://www.ocztechnology.com/products/memory/ocz_ddr2_pc2_6400_platinum_revision_2

are pretty much exactly the same, except for the asthetics of the heatspead are different.
November 25, 2007 8:34:12 AM

i dont know, i wont go for x38. go to anadtech or xbit labs, n c if they recommend x38 mobos. right now P35 are good enough to handle the q6600.
November 25, 2007 9:43:03 AM

I love Tiger Direct they have very informative information on QVC, and they never hype anything. :pfff:  :pt1cable:  :lol: 
November 25, 2007 10:41:49 AM

got a Q6600 here, with value ram 800 ddr2 kingstons and a single 8800gts 320

finished crysis all settings on high 1024 no AA ran smoothly and i enjoyed the games beautifull effects and cynematic action

playing again using very hihg shaders and post filters and it looks much better, but it does show prformance hit, all the other games i can game at max settings

just to let oyu know what u can do with a kind of setup

P35 Board btw
November 25, 2007 2:33:25 PM

ok thanks guys, its now between the X38 boards, i just like them more, and they have 45nm support, which is the future, but i dont know, the P35's might have that too...but nevertheless, X38 is what im going.


Abit IX38 Quad
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127033

Asus P5E
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131219

Gigabyte X38-DQ6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128066

Intel DX38BT
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3444881&Sku=I69-2162
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