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FX60 (S939) or AMD 5000+ BE (AM2 UPGRADE BOARD)

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December 1, 2007 9:35:00 PM

I currently am running a 3700+ @ 2.8Ghz on my Asrock Dual-VSTA 939 board...

I want more power... SO!

Should I buy a S939 Opteron 180D... for $200 (tax incl) and OC it to 2.8Ghz

OR

Buy the AM2 upgrade for my motherboard (costs 40$) and then buy 2gigs DDR2 + 5000+ BE?

December 1, 2007 9:44:09 PM

I think you'd be happier moving to DDR2 with a 5000+
December 1, 2007 10:15:41 PM

trinitron64 said:
I currently am running a 3700+ @ 2.8Ghz on my Asrock Dual-VSTA 939 board...

Buy the AM2 upgrade for my motherboard (costs 40$) and then buy 2gigs DDR2 + 5000+ BE?

get a nice nforce 570 or better board for $80-$100
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December 1, 2007 10:28:37 PM

I think you'd be best off getting a P35 and a Q6600.
December 1, 2007 10:30:59 PM

The ASRock boards are actually suprisingly good performers...

However, there are some issues with the upgrade boards and 65nm chips on some boards - official bioses didn't support them properly. This was a couple months ago however.

I would be inclined to suggest you go for an AM2 option - but check around ASRock forums (OCWorkbench forums is a very good source for info for ASRock) to make sure there's a bios out there which will let you run the 5000BE.
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December 1, 2007 11:17:29 PM

Look in to an new Intel build. A 2180+ DS3L+ case+ PSU+ good fan+ HDD+ DVD drive= ~$520. You can OC the 2180 to 2.7Ghz+ and it would beat the 5000+ even if the 5000 is OCed.
December 2, 2007 12:01:29 AM

the memory for the s939 will cost you more.
i recomend the m2ne from Asus.
December 2, 2007 12:43:07 AM

trinitron64 said:
I currently am running a 3700+ @ 2.8Ghz on my Asrock Dual-VSTA 939 board...

I want more power... SO!

Should I buy a S939 Opteron 180D... for $200 (tax incl) and OC it to 2.8Ghz

OR

Buy the AM2 upgrade for my motherboard (costs 40$) and then buy 2gigs DDR2 + 5000+ BE?


I have a system with the exact same board. I also purchased the AM2 upgrade board from Ewiz and it worked flawlessly.

But.....I don't think the upgrade board will support the brisbane cpu's if you were looking at the 5000+ BE. It will take a 5200+ windsor cpu. The link below is the processor I think would work best for you. You might want to be cautions and check the forums elsewhere if you decide to get the 5000+ BE which is a brisbane.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Of course your 939 3700+ running at 2.8 is pretty dang fast on single core applications. I am not even sure if you need to upgrade yet......what are the rest of the specs for your system? Why are you thinking of upgrading?
December 2, 2007 1:01:47 AM

caamsa said:
But.....I don't think the upgrade board will support the brisbane cpu's if you were looking at the 5000+ BE. It will take a 5200+ windsor cpu. The link below is the processor I think would work best for you. You might want to be cautions and check the forums elsewhere if you decide to get the 5000+ BE which is a brisbane.


I can't remember which models exactly, but some people have had some success with the CPU Upgrade board with brisbane - though what i remember reading only spoke of some of the first brisbanes, and only with certain bioses... may have been with the beta bioses created and tweaked by 3rd party people, not ASRock themselves. All of the 90nm chips work with it though, including the 6000+/6400+

caamsa said:
Of course your 939 3700+ running at 2.8 is pretty dang fast on single core applications.


I had a system build round the 939Dual-Sata2 with the 3700+ overclocked to 2.86GHz (260x11) which needed the volt mod on the board to achieve (1.55v) along with some uber air cooling. My housemate at the time had a stock speed 3800+ and I have to admit, the 3800 quite often had the edge with games - and the overclocked 3700 really struggled even with a 10km map on supreme commander :/  that was with a x1900xt-x backing it up on the graphics side. Stock 3800 won on warhammer, mark of chaos as well.
December 2, 2007 1:17:26 AM

coret said:
I can't remember which models exactly, but some people have had some success with the CPU Upgrade board with brisbane - though what i remember reading only spoke of some of the first brisbanes, and only with certain bioses... may have been with the beta bioses created and tweaked by 3rd party people, not ASRock themselves. All of the 90nm chips work with it though, including the 6000+/6400+



I had a system build round the 939Dual-Sata2 with the 3700+ overclocked to 2.86GHz (260x11) which needed the volt mod on the board to achieve (1.55v) along with some uber air cooling. My housemate at the time had a stock speed 3800+ and I have to admit, the 3800 quite often had the edge with games - and the overclocked 3700 really struggled even with a 10km map on supreme commander :/  that was with a x1900xt-x backing it up on the graphics side. Stock 3800 won on warhammer, mark of chaos as well.



Originally I had my 6000+ on the AM2 upgrade slot but found it ran a little too hot. But it did work fine. It did not recognize the cpu. but it ran at the correct speed. I kinda wonder the purpose of his upgrade? His video card is lacking and if he dropped in a much better video card and maybe some more memory he would get quite a boost. But I am not sure if he is even a big gamer or not. Maybe he will give us some more info.
December 2, 2007 9:36:59 AM

Let's be honest - the 6000+ runs hot regardless of what board it's in =p Mine's idling at 44 atm ... though the heating has been on. The load temperature is scary, so i've stopped looking at it.

(I'm running everything in a sugo sg-01e and the ventilation isn't the best - i'm planning a mod to fix all that soon though)
December 2, 2007 4:27:02 PM

I already have 2gb of ram... maybe the best option would be the opteron... because if I can get it to 2.8Ghz (i don't see why I wouldn't) then I should be able to keep my level of performance + multitasking... and I get to keep my AGP card and have the option to upgrade to a PCI-E 16x card when I feel that is needed.

Doesn't that make sense?
December 2, 2007 4:56:23 PM

trinitron64 said:
I already have 2gb of ram... maybe the best option would be the opteron... because if I can get it to 2.8Ghz (i don't see why I wouldn't) then I should be able to keep my level of performance + multitasking... and I get to keep my AGP card and have the option to upgrade to a PCI-E 16x card when I feel that is needed.

Doesn't that make sense?



The only problem that i see is that the opteron is 200 bucks. A big chunk of change. If you want to get better gaming performance just get a new video card for now. You can also get a 939 X2 4200+ OEM at newegg for like 73 bucks. I am sure that would over clock just was well as the 3700+.
December 2, 2007 5:00:18 PM

I would need more performance than an FX-57 for it to be an upgrade... I only ran my 3700+ at 2.2Ghz for maybe the first week that I had it.
December 2, 2007 5:11:21 PM

trinitron64 said:
I would need more performance than an FX-57 for it to be an upgrade... I only ran my 3700+ at 2.2Ghz for maybe the first week that I had it.


I am curious, what will you be doing with your system? If you are playing games then a video card would give you a nice boost. If you don't game then yea the dual core opteron would be be good.
December 2, 2007 5:11:53 PM

I think caamsa meant that you could overclock the 4200 to around the same level as the 3700 - though from my experience it'll take a lot of cooling to do it - you could have two cores clocked almost as high as the single core you have at the moment.
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