Cant decide what to use for new build

Alright, building my new comp and doing lots of research with it, this is still a work in progress and want to know what some people think, now i have one of 2 decisions, but ill list both builds... also taking into consideration i dont want to spend over 1 grand on it

Build 1:
(all prices are from newegg and are after rebates)

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153038 - 99.99
(for sli or crossfire if needed)

Proccesor- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773 - 159.99
(would go intel, but dont want to overclock)

ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227252 - 94.99
(for right now im using 4x1 gig but ive heard 2x2 gig is better, is this true or not?)

gpu- x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131055(crossfired) - 259.98
(the main reason im not using a dx-10 card is, ive heard it doesnt work with xp pro 64bit, is this true?)

motherbrd- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135024 - 69.99

total - 684.95

total isnt including a case, whats a good case, i want a mid tower with a window

now for my second build im going a little different route

Build 2:

PSU- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153038 - 99.99
(for sli or crossfire if needed)

Proccesor- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773 - 159.99
(would go intel, but dont want to overclock)

ram- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227252 - 94.99
(for right now im using 4x1 gig but ive heard 2x2 gig is better, is this true or not?)

gpu- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130306 - 299.99

motherbrd- i havent really found a board a like, any suggestions, id like it to be under 150 if possible and sli ready would be nice

again any case suggestions would be nice

now as a final statement, my main question is to go to either xp pro 64 bit or vista 64 bit,

ive heard so many bad things about vista, and i cant really decide if its the right way to go, this is going to be a gaming comp and i heard that it usues full resources just to run it cause it preloads all your operations...

a little insight onto how vista works and if its good for a gamer would also be appreciated...

now i would just like to know your opinions on my build and any suggestions are welcome (i like criticiszm)

thanks for your time
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  1. Hmmm, tough choice, click all your links to see what you're talking about, or go to sleep seeing as it's midnight...
  2. I'm srry I really don't want to go to through the links... please just post the simple names. Not tired or anything just lazy... like 50% of americans. Even though I'm a 15 year old chinese kid in canada...
  3. lol alright, give me a sec
  4. well its only 1134 here and im a night person so im antsy for advice lol

    well anyways wouldnt let me edit so im reposting

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    Alright, building my new comp and doing lots of research with it, this is still a work in progress and want to know what some people think, now i have one of 2 decisions, but ill list both builds... also taking into consideration i dont want to spend over 1 grand on it

    Build 1:
    (all prices are from newegg and are after rebates)

    PSU- Thermaltake W0116RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 750W Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153038 - 99.99
    (for sli or crossfire if needed)

    Proccesor- AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773 - 159.99
    (would go intel, but dont want to overclock)

    ram- OCZ Platinum 4GB(4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P8004GQ - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227252 - 94.99
    (for right now im using 4x1 gig but ive heard 2x2 gig is better, is this true or not?)

    gpu- POWERCOLOR X1950PRO512MBAC Radeon X1950PRO 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
    x2 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131055(crossfired) - 259.98
    (the main reason im not using a dx-10 card is, ive heard it doesnt work with xp pro 64bit, is this true?)

    motherbrd- ECS KA3 MVP (V1.0A) AM2 AMD 580X CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135024 - 69.99

    total - 684.95

    total isnt including a case, whats a good case, i want a mid tower with a window

    now for my second build im going a little different route

    Build 2:

    PSU-Thermaltake W0116RU Complies with ATX 12V 2.2 & EPS 12V version 750W Power Supply - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153038 - 99.99
    (for sli or crossfire if needed)

    Proccesor- AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADX6000CZBOX - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103773 - 159.99
    (would go intel, but dont want to overclock)

    ram- OCZ Platinum 4GB(4 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Quad Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ2P8004GQ - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227252 - 94.99
    (for right now im using 4x1 gig but ive heard 2x2 gig is better, is this true or not?)

    gpu- EVGA 512-P3-N802-A3 GeForce 8800GT Superclocked 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130306 - 299.99

    motherbrd- i havent really found a board a like, any suggestions, id like it to be under 150 if possible and sli ready would be nice

    again any case suggestions would be nice

    now as a final statement, my main question is to go to either xp pro 64 bit or vista 64 bit,

    ive heard so many bad things about vista, and i cant really decide if its the right way to go, this is going to be a gaming comp and i heard that it usues full resources just to run it cause it preloads all your operations...

    a little insight onto how vista works and if its good for a gamer would also be appreciated...

    now i would just like to know your opinions on my build and any suggestions are welcome (i like criticiszm)

    thanks for your time
  5. and im kinda lazy to say i just copied and pasted the part names so u might still have to click links lol
  6. The main parts all fit well it's a solid build. and Asus Crosshair is a good board. I believe Vista SP1 fixes ALOT of game problems. as in more frames per second vvise. Vista? Does nothing that XP can't do besides DX10 which even XP can do but Mircosoft wants more money. Besides DX10? Eye candy! lots of and lots of eyecandy. And the supposed ability to report you to the FBI for having illegal music.
  7. lol well then maybe vistas a bad idea ; )

    but then what would be better, build 1 or 2 taking in mind that i might use vista now
  8. it's basically 1950pro 880GT obviously 8800GT wins so builld 2
  9. I just ordered an XFX 680i SLI mobo from amazon..... $110 shipped, and picked up an antec nine hundred case for $100 before rebate and I love the case, it's awesome for gamers.
  10. Yeah, 8800GT beats the x1950Pro by a large margin.

    BTW, www.ncixus.com has a BFG 8800GT OC2, same price as your eVGA, but it's in stock.

    2x2GB is better than 4x1GB because you only use 2 DIMM slots and you can get to 8 GB later.

    Antec 900 is not very expensive and has great cooling. The 8800GT needs that.

    :lol: Vista won't report you to the FBI. it will just make your expensive high-def equipment run in crappy mode if it thinks you pirated the movie. And apparently they messed up, it thinks that a lot, even if you didn't pirate the movie.
    They'll probably fix that at some point, even if it annoys movie companies, because annoying the customers is worse. I'm sure SP1 will have some changes to that area.
  11. djlazlow said:
    I just ordered an XFX 680i SLI mobo from amazon..... $110 shipped, and picked up an antec nine hundred case for $100 before rebate and I love the case, it's awesome for gamers.


    That's a very nice deal. monste4321, if you get the same mobo just add an E6750 for $190. It's a better deal than X2 6000+ at $160, IMO, even without overclocking. Play with these benchmarks to decide:
    http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=921&model2=873&chart=421
  12. Or you can do what I'm gonna do.....eat noodles for a week and get a Q6600 for $280.....I think it's worth it.
  13. lol its not that i couldnt spend 5 grand on a computer, its that i dont want to, my budget that ive set aside for a comp is 1 grand, the rest is going to my new motorcycle, and why may i ask would a 2.66ghz e6750 be better then a 3.0 ghz 6000+ (not criticizing, truthfully asking) and since much of my movies are not on true dvds and i have a nice big monitor and like watching movies on it, how badly does it really affect the video using vista and i coulda gotta the antec 900 for 50 shipped during neweggs thanksgiving deal lol, to late now
  14. According to http://www23.tomshardware.com/cpu_2007.html?modelx=33&model1=921&model2=873&chart=421 the e6750 is a somewhat faster....and honestly a good deal...I might reconsider and purchase one, who knows.....and regarding Vista, I can't personally tell you anything, only that I'm staying with XP another year.
  15. ....and before I forget, DON'T NEVER EVER spend $5k on a rig, unless of course you're filthy rich.
  16. lol i didnt really plan on it, motorcycle is more important then comp games imop haha...chicks dig wheels not ur nerdy gaming abilities, (dont want to offend anyone, just a joke)
  17. no wonder I still live with my mom... :S
  18. ok, i was reading the link u gave me djlazlow and what exactly are those benchmarks testing for, and while im at it, i know u only need around 2.5ghz to run most games, but what does that extra ghz do you when ur not in the gaming world, and will the extra ghz help u in the future, and i really dont wanna overclock a cpu beause then ill have to get a aftermarket cooler, and i dont feel like it lol
  19. haha it dont matter if u live at home, its how much time u spend at the girls house ; )
  20. Well if you look below where you choose the 2 CPU models u can choose the benchmark to see how they perform in that particular test. The requirement of 2.5ghz is usually the "minimum required", but for the "recommended"(the experience the game developer intended) they usually recommend faster processors.....like 3.0 ghz or an equivalent dual core. I've also heard that a slow processor could bottleneck your GPU, but I don't think this will be the case cuz it looks like they're pretty equal. But if you go with the e6750 you can pair it up with the 680i SLI mobo I was talking about. http://www.amazon.com/XFX-NVIDIA-nForce-Intel-Motherboard/dp/B000OH1NYG/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1195976169&sr=8-1
  21. is there any advantages going for an intel motorbrd over an amd one, and do intels get hot at all
  22. monste4321 said:
    is there any advantages going for an intel motorbrd over an amd one, and do intels get hot at all


    Well I'm particularly attracted to the Core 2 Duo's, wanted one ever since they came out. I really can't tell you much about AMD processors, I only have one in a laptop which I don't use. Right now the Pentium D 945 I have in a cheap case and with stock heatsink idles at 35 C.
  23. You can't compare Intel and AMD processors based on GHz, because they use different architectures. Intel's Core 2 processors do more work than AMD's X2 at the same clock, that's why the E6750 gets better results than the X2 6000+ even if it runs at a lower GHz.

    Totally agreed about the Q6600, it's a smarter solution for the long term than either E6750 or X2 6000+. I didn't suggest it because I thought that $1K budget was fixed, but if you can afford another $80 it's worth it.
  24. well actually i would like to go cheaper lol, whats the cheapest intel cpu i could go with that i could overclock to aprox 2.8ghz- 3.0ghz also i would prob then need a good cooling solution for it, any good heatsink recomendations? the whole reason i went with amd in the first place is cause its cheaper
  25. E2180, $90, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7, $27
  26. well doesnt the lower fsb hurt it at all, (i dont know what u actually overclock when overclocking, do u change fsb as well as ghz, or what)

    what exactly are you overclocking when u overclock a cpu
  27. aevm said:

    :lol: Vista won't report you to the FBI. it will just make your expensive high-def equipment run in crappy mode if it thinks you pirated the movie. And apparently they messed up, it thinks that a lot, even if you didn't pirate the movie.
    They'll probably fix that at some point, even if it annoys movie companies, because annoying the customers is worse. I'm sure SP1 will have some changes to that area.


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  28. aevm said:
    E2180, $90, Arctic Cooling Freezer 7, $27



    Yup, very true. E2180+Arctic Cooling Freezer 7(or better)= Awsome proformence for <$110
  29. would you get the same preformance from clocking a e2180 to lets say 3ghz or by overclocking the e6750 to 3ghz, or would you get the same preformance
  30. I think the E6750 would do better because it has more cache.
  31. can u over clock cache, and what does cache actually do
  32. Cache is a fast type of RAM, it stores frequently used things so they can be found faster. You can't overclock it separately, it's part of the CPU.
  33. does the cache increase when u overclock a cpu at all?
  34. what does fsb do for a cpu and is that overclockable
  35. alright im gonna read through that, thanks for the link
  36. Intel Q6600@ @newegg.com $300
    XFX 680i SLI Motherboard @amazon.com $110
    Antec Nine Hundred case @newegg.com $130
    OCZ GameXstream 700w SLI Certified @newegg.com $140
    OCZ Platinum 4 gb (4x1G) @newegg.com $145
    BFG 8800GT OC (sold out everywhere) @compusa.com $275

    Total price including shipping and taxes and before rebates= $1100

    Minus rebates - $120

    Price after rebates $980
    (not including OS, CD-ROMs, and hard drive)

    As a good alternative you can replace the Q6600 with an E6750
    and slash another $100 off the total price = $880

    This is something similar to what I'm gonna do, and I think anyone will agree this is a strong mid-ranged system and it leaves open the possibility of dropping another 8800 GT in the future ( The PSU is certified for dual 8800 GT's).
  37. alright well i was gonna go with the e6750, and the nvidia mob and nvidia gpu, and prob the ocz platnium 4x2 but otherwise its pretty similar
  38. whoa....that's a lot of RAM.
  39. i mean 2x2
  40. all get amd!!! dont let them go down!!!! i got my x2 4000 to 3.33ghz comon guys!!!! and get the hd 3750 for a little more help for amd!! ahhhhh!!!
  41. lol well im kinda set right now on the 8800 gt, and really im prob just gonna wait till the new year and see what happens to the prices, hopefully they go down in my favor, ive waited this long already, another month wont hurt, now im just looking into more specifics and overclocking, but thanks for all the info so far
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