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ArbY   12-02-2007 at 10:23:06 PM

The Intel E6750 at 2.6GHz and a 1333MHz FSB is significantly cheaper at Newegg as opposed to the E6600 at 2.4GHz and a 1066MHz FSB.

E6750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115029

E6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115003


Someone I know mentioned that the E6600 has an unlocked multiplier while the E6750 does not. If this is true, would this account for the $45 price difference?

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TechnologyCoordinator   12-02-2007 at 10:25:02 PM
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I do not believe either has an unlocked multiplier.

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spuddyt   12-02-2007 at 11:07:12 PM
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its probably some weird fluctuations of supply and demand, I mean, look at where the q6600 is, then look at teh q6700, which is about 2 times the price at a miniscule performance increase, so weird pricings are not that uncommon

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chookman   12-02-2007 at 11:21:25 PM
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Neither has an unlocked multiplier... this is reserved for the eXtreme parts.

the e6750 is cheaper because its newer and intel would prefer people to buy newer than the older e6600. The e6750 has a higher stock FSB and lower multiplier than the e6600. From what i know of e6600's are the prefered part for extreme OCer's as it has a higher multiplier which should give a higher OC in the end with extreme cooling.

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zenmaster   12-02-2007 at 11:29:20 PM
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I doubt with even extreme cooling the E6600 will hit the speeds of the E6750.

That the E6600 is an old part Intel is no longer making many of and it would be a good chip for some old Mobos that don't support the newer chips.

The chip will be completely discontinued in a couple months I believe.

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Ilander   12-03-2007 at 12:27:31 AM
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Possibly the market for a 1333 MHz fsb part is smaller than the market for a 1066MHz fsb part due to the install-base...my motherboard only supports the latter, after all...

...and to the 1333MHz crowd, they probably mostly look at quad-cores at the moment.

So, it's in an awkward position, which means newegg automatically lowers the price a bit...though I bet it jumps back up somewhat.

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Evilonigiri   12-03-2007 at 12:31:42 AM
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I feel sad that still most people buys the e6600. At least according to newegg...

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Rohmaan   12-03-2007 at 12:31:43 AM
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zenmaster wrote :

I doubt with even extreme cooling the E6600 will hit the speeds of the E6750.

That the E6600 is an old part Intel is no longer making many of and it would be a good chip for some old Mobos that don't support the newer chips.

The chip will be completely discontinued in a couple months I believe.

Wrong many people have overclocked the E6600 to 3.4 ghz on stock cooling the E6750, and E6600 are both 65nm chips new motherboards still support E6600.

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Evilonigiri   12-03-2007 at 12:33:14 AM
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Rohmaan wrote :

Wrong many people have overclocked the E6600 to 3.4 ghz on stock cooling the E6750, and E6600 are both 65nm chips new motherboards still support E6600.


He meant "officially" support them.

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jaguarskx   12-03-2007 at 12:36:50 AM
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Probably because the E6600 is no longer being produced.

On top of that inventories are slowly decreasing, thus higher prices for anyone who wants to invest in "older" technology.

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3Ball   12-03-2007 at 12:40:45 AM
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ArbY wrote :

The Intel E6750 at 2.6GHz and a 1333MHz FSB is significantly cheaper at Newegg as opposed to the E6600 at 2.4GHz and a 1066MHz FSB.

E6750
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115029

E6600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115003


Someone I know mentioned that the E6600 has an unlocked multiplier while the E6750 does not. If this is true, would this account for the $45 price difference?



No it does not have an unlocked multiplier as said above. The reason for the price difference is that Intel is encouraging people to buy the newer models of their processor and phasing out the old ones, which will soon be discontinued. The E6750 is better, despite what the price may indicate. Hope this helps!

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skittle   12-03-2007 at 12:46:39 AM
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Rohmaan wrote :

Wrong many people have overclocked the E6600 to 3.4 ghz on stock cooling the E6750, and E6600 are both 65nm chips new motherboards still support E6600.



Other way around junior. He meant that older boards might not support the 6750. Also the 6750 is a newer stepping, possibly higher OCs?

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Can Not   12-03-2007 at 12:59:14 AM
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It's meant to make buying a whole new computer more reasonable.

Much like the price-inflated AGP versions of video cards.

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zenmaster   12-03-2007 at 01:09:56 AM
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skittle wrote :

Other way around junior. He meant that older boards might not support the 6750. Also the 6750 is a newer stepping, possibly higher OCs?



Exactly - The E6750 is the G0 Stepping and run much cooler and OCs much higher than the B2 Stepping of the E6600.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/L [...] =&OrdCode=

THere are some older Motherboards that support the Core2Duo chips that can't handle the 1333 FSB chips.
The 945 Mobos would likely really have a problem.

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TechnologyCoordinator   12-03-2007 at 03:04:09 AM
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zenmaster wrote :

I doubt with even extreme cooling the E6600 will hit the speeds of the E6750.

That the E6600 is an old part Intel is no longer making many of and it would be a good chip for some old Mobos that don't support the newer chips.

The chip will be completely discontinued in a couple months I believe.




You are not correct. People report massive E6600 overclocks on stock air.

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chookman   12-03-2007 at 03:58:41 AM
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TechnologyCoordinator wrote :

You are not correct. People report massive E6600 overclocks on stock air.




Anandtech got it to 4ghz
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipse [...] =2795&p=18

Here they use e6750 with stock cooler at 3.68ghz so with a third party cooler would it reach 4ghz of the e6600?
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.aspx?i=3012&p=10

These guys got it to 3.8ghz with Nautalus
http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] ew/13.html

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MikosNZ   12-03-2007 at 04:06:38 AM
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zenmaster wrote :

I doubt with even extreme cooling the E6600 will hit the speeds of the E6750.



Im currently using a E6600 at 3.2 on stock air cooling. I have had it running faster aswell. The temperature is about 43 idle and vcore is still low and 100% stable at 3.2 . On all benchmarks it is significantly faster than a stock E6750. Not sure where you get your facts that it couldnt hit the speed of a E6750? The E6600 actually had a very strong reputation as an OC'er upon the initial release of the conroe line.

If you have an older motherboard the E6600 will actually be easier to overclock as the FSB is lower. For example at 3Ghz the respective FSB's would be E6600 = 333 * 9 , E6750 = 374 * 8)

Having said all that said for a new system E6750 is of course the better choice! Great overclocker and is faster than the 6600 and 6700.

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amnotanoobie   12-03-2007 at 04:14:33 AM
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zenmaster wrote :

I doubt with even extreme cooling the E6600 will hit the speeds of the E6750.

That the E6600 is an old part Intel is no longer making many of and it would be a good chip for some old Mobos that don't support the newer chips.

The chip will be completely discontinued in a couple months I believe.




With 'extreme cooling' it isn't impossible to hit 4+ GHz with the E6600. Also even with NetBurst/NetBust 264MHz increase is immediately doable.

A E6600 is advisable to those only with typical 945 boards. As the modified versions of those boards support only up to 1066 FSB.

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nhobo   12-03-2007 at 04:14:48 AM
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Simple - Intel doesn't give a crap. They flooded the market with E6600's, and while the supply chain was still full, they dumped a new generation of chips without regard for what's already in the chain. That the price of the E6750 is lower than the E6600 is the retailer's problem. Happens all the time, they'll do the same thing with Penryns. Nehalem will be a different story only because it will require a different socket.

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Grimmy   12-03-2007 at 04:17:48 AM
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Well not all chips are created equal, and at their stock speeds can have problems reaching 4ghz. I wouldn't be surprised if someone could actually get a 6750 at 4ghz. But then its also other hardware components like the MB/RAM that may limit its full potential or max speed on air.

 

But then again, that's kinda extreme to run a CPU at 4ghz. Unless your trying to get something done it shorter time. :lol:. o O (What? its not done yet? Gah.. I'm trying to save time to do absolutely nothing later on)


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starcraftfanatic   12-03-2007 at 04:18:34 AM
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TechnologyCoordinator wrote :

You are not correct. People report massive E6600 overclocks on stock air.


People also report going as high or even higher with the E6750. Take a look around, I'm to lazy to post the links.
The only problem is you need some very high speed RAM to overclock the E6750 past 3.2.


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