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December 3, 2007 12:11:27 PM

I am planning to put together a new build soon, but I was waiting for the e2200 to be released. All of the charts I have found said it would be out yesterday or today, but I can't find it or and information about it anywhere. Does anyone have any info on this CPU?

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December 3, 2007 12:37:23 PM

I am looking for the same info you are, Newegg hasnt even put it on their site yet. Neither has any of the others that I use.
December 3, 2007 1:05:58 PM

I didn't check every site, but most don't have it in stock yet:

Google - Intel E2200

What kinda cracks me up, is that most sites are putting Pentium on the product. :lol: . o O (wonder if that makes intel mad?)
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December 3, 2007 1:18:08 PM

Actually, Intel brought back the Pentium name for these processors. Go read the wiki on it, I didnt know that until this morning either lol.
December 3, 2007 1:28:47 PM

Errr.. I don't see it, unless I'm looking at the wrong wiki:

Pentium

But after doing some searching, is it because of the 1MB cache that it's called Pentium?

Geesh, Intel can't make up their mind. I might as well call my E4400 a Pentium. :lol: 
December 3, 2007 2:43:27 PM

Heh... I don't know where to laugh or gag. I guess I can try to do both at the same time. [:mousemonkey:4]

Geesh... what is the world coming to? Can't even think of cool names for products anymore, aways the same.

But when they do come out with new names... I end up wishing they wouldn't. [:xkm1948:1]
December 3, 2007 4:25:32 PM

Lol!
Anyways, I'm looking for the same thing-so I'm gonna subscribe to this post 'till someone finds it :) 
December 3, 2007 6:29:33 PM

I have been looking for one to buy all day and I just can't seem to find one anywhere!!!! I have to have my build done before christmas as I am giving the old PC to my step-daughter as a christmas present so I need to get the ball rolling on this thing! If anyone finds them, please post them here.
December 3, 2007 6:36:37 PM

Thinking about it, when it shows up on NewEgg, they will prolly have to add another catagory that you normally see on the side like:


Series
Celeron (3)
Celeron D (5)
Core 2 Duo (13)
Core 2 Extreme (6)
Core 2 Quad (3)
Dual-Core (3)

- More

Pentium 4(3)
Pentium D(3)
Xeon(11)

Guess they'll have to make another Pentium entry. :lol: 
December 3, 2007 7:04:54 PM

Ya... I'm just too lazy to look anymore.

:lol: . o O (whats next? Plenty letters in the alphabet... F6xxx, G6xxx, H6xxx, ect?)
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December 3, 2007 7:07:41 PM

Yes, it's all becoming quite overwhelming... :pt1cable: 
December 4, 2007 12:10:46 PM

But where is it though :p 
December 4, 2007 4:01:31 PM

I saw on a couple websites where they didnt expect delivery until the 10th!!!! Dunno if I can wait that long but I may be forced to since newegg is now out of DS3L's...
December 6, 2007 3:51:22 PM

**Update**

I contacted Newegg Customer Service to ask when they were going to be receiving their shipment of E2200's. The guy at first game me the classic one to two weeks after release answer. I pressed him a bit more on it and he explained that with Intel shipments they normally receive them 5 to 7 days after the official release. So.... we could see them tomorrow or if not, it will probably be monday the 10th before we see them anywhere.
December 6, 2007 6:06:35 PM

WOOT! Do you think the high demand will increase the prices very much-or do you think Intel will ship out enough to keep eveyone happy?
December 6, 2007 7:13:43 PM

3 of the vendors I have looked at that display their quantities and arrival date all say Dec 10th and most have over 1000 units incoming so I don't think there will be a huge shortage but I dunno.
December 6, 2007 7:53:09 PM

I don't see the real point of waiting for the E2200.

The Default FSB of the E2xxx series is quite low and will hurt performance unless you increase the default FSB speed.
This equates to OCing.

If you are going to be OCing anyway, I don't see why the E2160 or E2180 would not do just as well.

If you really don't want to mess with that stuff, I would go for something with a default FSB of 1066 or higher.
December 6, 2007 8:04:00 PM

800 fsb is only a 2-3% decrease. Anyway, it's all about the multiplier. My mobo will only do 300 fsb max, so I'll be looking for 10x multiplier for my overclock. Still, I'm holding out to see what the dual core celeron has to offer. The D 805 is still doing its job adequately for the time being.
December 6, 2007 8:15:05 PM

Im assuming the main difference between this and the e2180 is the higher multiplier?
December 6, 2007 9:09:07 PM

zenmaster said:
I don't see the real point of waiting for the E2200.

The Default FSB of the E2xxx series is quite low and will hurt performance unless you increase the default FSB speed.
This equates to OCing.

If you are going to be OCing anyway, I don't see why the E2160 or E2180 would not do just as well.

If you really don't want to mess with that stuff, I would go for something with a default FSB of 1066 or higher.


I am waiting for this because it has higher performance with a cheaper price-the price is the main thing keeping me waiting!
December 6, 2007 9:25:23 PM

If your mobo only does 300FSB, is a no brainer.
December 6, 2007 9:36:02 PM

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/core2duo-e4300...

This article will show the effect a little bit.
If you look at the E4300 and the E6300 you will see about a 5-7% difference when both CPUs run at the same speed with the same cache.

The only real difference is the 800 vs the 1066 FSB.
There is less of a difference going from 1066 to 1333 FSB because there are less cases where the bus is a limiting factor.

Increased FSB should in theorey help the E2xxx series more than the other chips due to the smaller cache which means a faster fsb should be more important. However, I don't have any good links to support that claim.

If I had to buy a chip right now, it would most likely be the E2xxx seriues, so I'm not trying to put them down by saying that.

December 7, 2007 3:14:01 AM

Although it might seem trivial, the E6300 actually runs at 1.86 GHz, so that's 66.6 more MHz than the e4300. 66MHz is ~3% of 1.8GHz, so the "5-7%" performance difference you quote must first acknowledge the 3% advantage in clock speed the e6300 has over the e4300, which with linear scaling should equate to a 3% performance advantage due to the difference in clock speed alone, leaving the remainder of the performance difference being due to bus speed. So, the performance difference in bus speed alone is more like 2% to 4% using your numbers above, which is pretty close to the 2 to 3% on average I had previously stated.

I must say the importance of bus speed has been a bit overhyped lately. Even in the Pentium D days, the article by Anandtech showed the D 805 being on average only 7% behind the Pentium D 820, meaning the lower 533 fsb really only hampered the D 805 2 to 3% after accounting for the 5% clock speed advantage of the D 820. Certainly, a faster FSB will benefit the processor, but it doesn't make or break performance. L2 cache size plays a much bigger role in the performance of C2D than bus speed.
December 10, 2007 12:46:17 PM

I am really hoping someone has them in stock today. If not, I will probably go with the E4500 instead.
December 10, 2007 4:11:39 PM

I can't find it anywhere!
December 10, 2007 4:27:52 PM

Well, I just next day'd an E4500 for $125 +$20 shipping. I would have loved to have had a E2200 but I simply can't wait any longer if I am going to get my wifes PC back up and going and get our daughters ready. I can't beleive its taken this long for them to get to any of the manufacturers!!!
December 10, 2007 4:55:23 PM

I got the E4600 with an AC7 for around $130 shipped for the egg last week. It has a 12X multi so it will be good for you guys with lower FSB limits! (Mine runs 3.5 Ghz with no problem at 292 FSB!)

If this E2200 is less then $100 it will be a killer deal. I am sure it'll hit at least 3.2Ghz without a hitch!
December 10, 2007 5:08:12 PM

Yea, I may have to order an AC7 for this E4500. Alot of people are complaining about how big of a pain in the butt the retail fan is for them. I really only want around 3.0 ghz and even at 266 Mhz true FSB thats 2.92 Ghz.
December 10, 2007 5:42:13 PM

I just went with a 2160. I wanted it for a cheap overclock. I'm planning to replace it with a Penryn so this should do the job.
December 10, 2007 7:30:00 PM

medamorg said:
Yea, I may have to order an AC7 for this E4500. Alot of people are complaining about how big of a pain in the butt the retail fan is for them. I really only want around 3.0 ghz and even at 266 Mhz true FSB thats 2.92 Ghz.


This was my first intel build in a long long time and I had heard people complaining about installing HSF's in LGA77F so I was expected to have to apply a little effort...

BUT!, This has to be the easiest HSF installation I have ever completed. It is at least as easy as the AM2/939 Socket. Don't listen to noobs, I installed the CPU, HSF onto the MOBO and all that into the case in less then 10 minutes, seriously!
December 10, 2007 7:31:30 PM

prodystopian said:
I just went with a 2160. I wanted it for a cheap overclock. I'm planning to replace it with a Penryn so this should do the job.

Keep us post on your O/C, I am curious about how this chip does. I am planning a budget gaming build with one in the very near future!
December 11, 2007 12:23:30 PM

I am planning on it. I may be posting it in the OC forum though. I'm quite busy witht he holidays coming up, and I am not getting my parts until friday, so my plan is to put the PC together next week and play around with the OCing shortly after Christmas when I am at home with the family. I'll be sure to write up my experiences.
December 11, 2007 4:07:00 PM

Anyone find the e2200 though?
December 11, 2007 8:19:01 PM

TSIMonster said:
This was my first intel build in a long long time and I had heard people complaining about installing HSF's in LGA77F so I was expected to have to apply a little effort...

BUT!, This has to be the easiest HSF installation I have ever completed. It is at least as easy as the AM2/939 Socket. Don't listen to noobs, I installed the CPU, HSF onto the MOBO and all that into the case in less then 10 minutes, seriously!



And that's the secret. Install the HSF with the mobo out of the case. That way you can make sure the push pins are fully seated. It's pretty simple when done this way.
December 12, 2007 2:02:52 PM

I can see where installing the HSF with the MOBO in the case could be an issue.
December 14, 2007 8:18:10 PM

And for only $100. Awsome.
December 14, 2007 10:04:09 PM

Thanks a lot, prodystopian!
But why so expensive?! It was supposed to be cheaper than the e2180!
December 14, 2007 11:31:57 PM

What's the big diff between the E2180 and E2200? Just the multiplier? Might as well go with the E2180, it's cheaper.
December 14, 2007 11:36:13 PM

I just checked newegg..

E2180 is $89.99 2ghz 1MB L2
E2200 is $95 2.2ghz 1MB L2

But it seems newegg is charging 4.99 s/h on it. :??: 
December 15, 2007 12:16:07 AM

Evilonigiri said:
What's the big diff between the E2180 and E2200? Just the multiplier? Might as well go with the E2180, it's cheaper.

Yeah, just the multi; however-it ensures at least up to ~2.7 Ghz overclock-because if you are really unlucky the e2180 might not overclock very high and you'll be stuck with only ~2.5 Ghz.
December 15, 2007 2:52:49 AM

Like I made mention earlier, for the guys out there who have decent overclocking boards, it matters little the cpu they get. Even an E2140 will work fine if your mobo can do 400+ fsb.

For those like me, who own boards with severely limited overclocking, a higher multiplier will allow me to still get great overclocks. For example, if I were to buy the E4600 with 12x multiplier, and then clock my mobo up to it's max 300 fsb, I'd be cruising along at 3.6GHz, which is about the absolute max most core 2's could possibly do. Not that I'd buy the E4600 though. I like to go for a sure thing, like the E2180 or the E4400 at 3.00GHz, rather than roll the dice on a chancy overclock like the E4600.
December 15, 2007 12:11:10 PM

My motherboard does 1066 FSB; but as I mentioned earlier-I heard that the e2200s were supposed to be cheaper than the e2180 dangit!
December 15, 2007 4:28:28 PM

MaxRabbit said:
My motherboard does 1066 FSB; but as I mentioned earlier-I heard that the e2200s were supposed to be cheaper than the e2180 dangit!


AFAIK E2200 was not supposed to be cheaper.

Can anyone explain me one thing: is e2140 overclocked @ 2200Mhz absolutely identical to e2200, just with a different multiplyer? Does Intel use identical chips for all 2xxx cpus? Or does buying an e2200, which is more expensive, guarantee me that it will run more stable and maybe not as hot @ 2200 Mhz as an overclocked e2140 @ 2200Mhz?
December 15, 2007 6:28:13 PM

Troman said:
Or does buying an e2200, which is more expensive, guarantee me that it will run more stable and maybe not as hot @ 2200 Mhz as an overclocked e2140 @ 2200Mhz?

Right-buying the e2200 guarantees a stable 2.2 Ghz.
December 15, 2007 6:55:05 PM

yet, at the same time, I seriously doubt there are any Core2s that can't run at 2200MHz. TBH, an e2140 clock to 2.2GHz should always be just as stable as an E2200. The only reason you're paying more for the e2200 is the fact that, when NOT overclocked, the e2200 is faster, b/c it runs at a faster speed. They should both overclock to about the same max frequency, provided your mobo or ram doesn't get in the way first.
December 15, 2007 9:02:27 PM

Thanks, but I didn't ask if buying e2200 guarantees that it will run stable at 2.2Ghz and I didn't question the ability if C2D CPUs to run @ 2200 Mhz.
My question way: does Intel use absolutely identical chips for e2140 and, say, e2200 or e2180? Does Intel only make those chips use a different multiplyer and puts a different label on the package, like "e2140", or "e2200"? If that's the case, then it would make absolutely no reason to buy a e2200, which would not make much sense to produce those, but still, I'm sure there are competent people around who can answer the question of whether e2180 and e2200 and are internally identical chips with different name and multiplyer.
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