TJMax of Q6600

[mis33]

What is the real TJ max of a Q6600?

According to CoretTemp 0.97.1, this is 100C.
According to Real Temp 2.24, this is 95C.

 

[iluvgillgill]

100C is the max.but it will become slightly unstable above 80C anyway.

 

[Evilonigiri]

100C is the max.but it will become slightly unstable above 80C anyway.

What are you talking about?

We don't know which is the real one, but stick to 100C TJ to be safe. You know, higher the TJ, the higher the temps, so if the real TJ was lower, you're readings will be higher than the real ones, making the cpu cooler than you think!

 

[iluvgillgill]

What are you talking about?

We don't know which is the real one, but stick to 100C TJ to be safe. You know, higher the TJ, the higher the temps, so if the real TJ was lower, you're readings will be higher than the real ones, making the cpu cooler than you think!

what are you on?its there for a reason and its stated on coretemp.

 

[rge]

what are you on?its there for a reason and its stated on coretemp.

But unfortunately the author of coretemp does not know tjmax. He is guessing based on similar mobile cpu's where tjmax is documented. But intel has said that is incorrect. This has been known prior to the anandtech article but you might want to read... http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3251&p=4 especially last paragraph on page 4.

 

[rge]

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/showdoc.aspx?i=3251&p=4
corrected link

 

[iluvgillgill]

ok but its not important to all of us right?as well all will try to keep it under 65C so what ever the max is we dont want to get anywhere near it.

everyone cool with that?

 

[Evilonigiri]

what are you on?its there for a reason and its stated on coretemp.

Read the temperature guide here...

 

[iluvgillgill]

the themp guide here says 100 and 85 which is same as what i said.

 

[Evilonigiri]

the themp guide here says 100 and 85 which is same as what i said.

I was thinking that you thought the TJunction max is the max temp the cpu can do, which is not true.

 

[rge]

absolute temp = tjmax (guessed by software) - DTS (accurately reported by software)

If tjmax is off 5C, then absolute temps are reported incorrectly by 5C. If tjmax is off 15C, temps will be off by 15C.

So though no one plans on getting anywhere near 95 or 100, that number is necessary to allow accurate temp reporting.

 

[iluvgillgill]

so why dont you state the max then?rather than tell which is not true.

 

[Evilonigiri]

Tjunction is NOT the max temp, we don't know what it is. Nobody but Intel does, which they won't release.

 

[iluvgillgill]

why wouldnt they release it?whats the effect??

 

[rge]

Have to ask intel that...but dont expect an answer. I asked on the intel forum, and when they did not answer, I gave my own based on intel white papers and fluke measurements, but they kept deleting my posts. This site does not support pics attachments? o/w I would post what I asked.

 

[Evilonigiri]

why wouldnt they release it?whats the effect??

Tjunction - DTS (digital thermal sensor) = temps. So if the Tjunction is 95, temps will be 5C cooler compared to the 100C Tjunction because of the formula.

Realtemps does it differently, so it doesn't quite follow the above.

 

[owhsinchu]

What is the real TJ max of a Q6600?

According to CoretTemp 0.97.1, this is 100C.
According to Real Temp 2.24, this is 95C.

Please check my comment here:

http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/357288-q6600-tjmax-4.html#post9268444

Or here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/250157-29-q6600-tjmax-right