will i kill my pc if i stick a C2D in P4 board

[50bmg]

My board:

asus P5LP-LE (Limestone 1.04)
northbridge intel 945g
southbridge 82801GB 1CH7
socket 775

will i kill my pc if i stick a C2D in P4 board. My current CPU is a P4 3.0G HT 630 800Mhz. Will a C2D give me any real boost?

 

[spanner_razor]

The c2d will give a big boost but it won't fit that I think. It's likely just to recognise the cpu as an unbranded one so it won't work properly but don't think it will destroy your machine but I'm still on socket 939 amd so it's conjecture on my part.

 

[paq7512]

The Core2 would fit but it will not work. However you could get a Pentium D. Since that is supported by the motherboard. But Pentium D's are just a hot mess lol.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?lc=en&cc=us&docname=c00379422

 

[madmike]

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericSoftwareDownloadIndex?cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&softwareitem=pv-54045-1&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

That is an HP board direct from Asus so hard to find data. It does have a 945G and the link I posted is the latest bios from HP and Asus. It says it supports newer Intel procs so update it and find out. It isn't going to damage the CPU just will or won't recognize it. Good Luck!

 

[madmike]

If you get the processor and it doesn't work a new MB that will work is fairly cheap and will be a much faster system.

 

[rgeist554]

The Core2 would fit but it will not work. However you could get a Pentium D. Since that is supported by the motherboard. But Pentium D's are just a hot mess lol.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc [...] =c00379422

Agreed. Pentium D's = BAD!

 

[50bmg]

Thanks guys. By the way, the bios link above is for vista. I have xp.

The pentium D is cheap. The reviews on Tigerdirect are good. So the PD is a dual core? I stayed away from the D because of bad review a couple of years ago. Would a 3.0 Pentium D be worth $60 and would it give me any boost in performance? How about OCing it? Can i use my current stock fan?

EDIT: oops, the above post, posted as i was writing this.

What if i get a good cooler? Would it give any benefit? or should i just OC my P4 3.0 and wait for my new build this spring for a C2D?

 

[madmike]

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericSoftwareDownloadIndex?softwareitem=pv-54452-1&cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&dlc=en&lang=en

Latest XP Bios...sorry

Pentium D's aren't much better than Pentium 4's unless you are photo editing/video encoding/multitasking and even then it's not close to a C2D. For gaming a Pentium D is the same as a Pentium 4.

 

[lolitha]

I think it's worth and updating your BIOS and check sometime it may work,sometimes it won't recognize your C2D

 

[mtyermom]

a BIOS update and Pentium Dual-core E21x0 series would be much better than a Pentium D.

 

[50bmg]

Latest XP Bios...sorry

NP, thanks for the bios link. I have had a hell of a time finding them.

a BIOS update and Pentium Dual-core E21x0 series would be much better than a Pentium D.

HP is telling me that the Pentium dual cores wont work with this board. Even tho New egg has boards almost identical to mine that support Pentium dual cores and C2Ds.

Edit: hp support is also saying that this board will take the Pentium D 8xx but not the 9xx. The difference is 90 - 65nm and 1M - 2M L2 cache.

I dont understand.

 

[carver_g]

For gaming a Pentium D is the same as a Pentium 4.

Not if you're running one of the many games that are optimized for dual-core.

 

[rgeist554]

The smalled the "nm" chips take less power and generate less heat. The larger L2 cache = better in most cases. As for the 8xx and the 9xx I'm guessing those are revisions of the Pentium D... which I still recommend you do not get. I doubt you will notice much difference between a P4 and a Pentium D.

Not if you're running one of the many games that are optimized for dual-core.

It's still using netburst architecture though, and generally performs very poorly when compared a real dual-core chip.

 

[carver_g]

It's still using netburst architecture though, and generally performs very poorly when compared a real dual-core chip.

*edit*

Of course.

rgeist554, sorry about the mixup.

-G

 

[roadrunner197069]

Pentium D's have been replaced by core2duos with the cache cut to 1mb. Old pentium D's might still exist but the e21xx series are core2duos.

 

[rgeist554]

What you said before was that gaming would be the same with a P4 vs. PD. Now you are saying that the PD is not as good as the C2D or X2. The second statement is obviously correct but the first is still wrong.

That was MadMike that said that Pentium D is the same as P4, read again please. *edit* You even quoted him in the post above mine.

I said I doubt you will notice much difference between P4 and PD. Which is true - the Pentium D is still using P4 architecture. When C2D and X2 came along - they blew that crap out of the water and unleashed the true potential of dual-core chips.

 

[roadrunner197069]

What you said before was that gaming would be the same with a P4 vs. PD. Now you are saying that the PD is not as good as the C2D or X2. The second statement is obviously correct but the first is still wrong.

That was MadMike that said that Pentium D is the same as P4, read again please.

I said I doubt you will notice much difference between P4 and PD.

There will be a huge difference with the new pentium D e2140, 2160, 2180.

 

[rgeist554]

There will be a huge difference with the new pentium D e2140, 2160, 2180.

Yeah, because the e21xx uses Intel's Core architecture, but the old 8xx and 9xx still use Netburst.

 

[roadrunner197069]

There will be a huge difference with the new pentium D e2140, 2160, 2180.

Yeah, because the e21xx uses Intel's Core architecture, but the old 8xx and 9xx still use Netburst.

The olds ones are discontinued so why bother. For the same price as an old one you can get the 2160 and be way better off.

 

[rgeist554]

The olds ones are discontinued so why bother. For the same price as an old one you can get the 2160 and be way better off.

Well, if you read above, you'll see that his board only supports 8xx. So I said it's entirely not worth it if that's all he can get.

... Edit: hp support is also saying that this board will take the Pentium D 8xx but not the 9xx. The difference is 90 - 65nm and 1M - 2M L2 cache. ...

*edit* If he can just update BIOS and run the 21xx then more power to him.

 

[50bmg]

The olds ones are discontinued so why bother. For the same price as an old one you can get the 2160 and be way better off.

Because, hp says my board will only support prescot and smithfield. apparently the new 65nm chips is the cut off for my board. Do you think my board will take a Pentium D e2xxx?

That brings up a question. Will the Petium D e2xxx chips be a noticable improvement over my P4? My p4 is 3.0 with 2M L2. The PDe2XXX chips are a shared 1M L2 and low speeds. Does the low chip speed an apple to apples comparison? 2 cores of 1.8Ghz versus my 3.0 HT. Will the lower L2 hurt my gaming. I have noticed on tom's charts that higher L2 and FBS is a big bonus for FPS. Since i will obviously be staying at 800Mhz FSB then will the L2 slow me down?

Edit: I was writing this post when the post above was posted. I will be installing the forementioned new bios tonight.

 

[roadrunner197069]

Because, hp says my board will only support prescot and smithfield. apparently the new 65nm chips is the cut off for my board. Do you think my board will take a Pentium D e2xxx?

That brings up a question. Will the Petium D e2xxx chips be a noticable improvement over my P4? My p4 is 3.0 with 2M L2. The PDe2XXX chips are a shared 1M L2 and low speeds. Does the low chip speed an apple to apples comparison? 2 cores of 1.8Ghz versus my 3.0 HT. Will the lower L2 hurt my gaming. I have noticed on tom's charts that higher L2 and FBS is a big bonus for FPS. Since i will obviously be staying at 800Mhz FSB then will the L2 slow me down?

Edit: I was writing this post when the post above was posted. I will be installing the forementioned new bios tonight.

The cache doest hurt much. I have the e2180 over clocked to 3.3 and I play Crysis and Call of Duty four with it.

 

[50bmg]

yep, i just realized i was wrong about the L2 cach.

Hmm. I am now in search of compatibility info between the E2xxx PD and my board.

What utility are you using to OC it?

 

[rgeist554]

Probably his BIOS.

 

[roadrunner197069]

yep, i just realized i was wrong about the L2 cach.

Hmm. I am now in search of compatibility info between the E2xxx PD and my board.

What utility are you using to OC it?

The bios but the Asus atility works as well. Asus P5K SE board. @ gigs Adata Ram pc 6400 $49.00