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I have a quick question. Now, I am not someone with vasts amount of technical pc knowledge but...
Intel has some of their CPU's priced at the $1000 mark while AMD's highest dual core right now is $180. Is Intel completely insane or is those high end processors really that much better. I understand there are some tech specs of the Intel ones that some people consider them to be superior to AMD but really... If anyone could break this down I'd love to hear it. Thx!!

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They are not worth the money. Last time I checked though Intel has a range of processors from $80-$999.

There is a nice market of enthusiasts who will buy those $1000 cpu's. AMD wishes it could charge $1000 for a cpu.

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The $1,00 chip is an Extreme Quadcore. With Intel, if you see an "X" in the name - it stands for "Extreme Edition". These are a little faster and have unlocked multipliers. However, they cost twice what they're actually worth - they're pretty much for people which money is no object.

To compare dualcore prices, look for the Core 2 Duos that begin with an "E", as "Q" means quadcore and "T" are for mobile.

In general, Intel overclocks better than AMD. However, if you're not overclocking, and you're just in the market for a dualcore, the two companies are fairly comparable in price & performance.


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Intel has processors that are priced in line with AMD's. If you want something better than what AMD offers, Intel has solutions, but they'll cost more as you are getting a better chip.

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The fastest processors always command a premium. But as already stated, there *is* a small market for these.

Now - The best processor AMD has(n't) shipped is Phenom. The best Phenom costs in the mid 200's, and the initial tests showed it performs a little worse than Intel's low/mid placed Q6600. The Q6600 can be bought in the mid-200's.... So price to performance is roughly equal at that price point, should the user not be interested in the superior overclock~ability of the Q. Looking at the more expensive models: Intel simply has better/faster processors than the Phenom/Q6600 for which they can charge a premium.


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Both Companies are insane when the have the better product on the market.

Looking back in the past when AM64 X2 rule, AMD did charge a vast amount. I remember when the X2 4400+ was around 500 bucks (prolly higher) when it came out. Now I knew at that time, I wanted to get it, but couldn't afford to. Even some of the guys I knew who wanted a new rig, ended up getting the cheapest they could get, and wait out for something to push the other prices down.

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Intel isn't crazy. AMD was the first to have $1000.00 plus CPU's with there FX sieries and there so called quad core setup where you had to buy 2 special FX CPUs with a mobo. But sense the core 2 duo and quad CPU's came out AMD had no choice but to lower there prices. I just checked tiger direct and found there quad phenom running at 2.4Ghz is almost $100.00 more than ther Q6600. but that was just one website


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New Egg has Core2Duo based processor ranging from $73.99 all the way up to $1000+ for the Extreme Edition Chips.

Considering the Cheapest Core2Duo based chip will OC to faster speeds than any of AMD's Black Edition Chips which cost far more, the Intel decision seems wise to me.

However, for very specific applications that need more memory bandwidth than processing power, AMD could be the better choice.

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Uh...where have you been?

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Hell no Intel is not crazy.. there is a market (albiet a small one) for them 1000 dollar chips. they would be crazy to NOT supply that market.

I agree with everyone who posted previously, when it comes down to the mainstream market, their products are very similarly priced.

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Intel is not crazy, it's the people who run it. AMD on the other hand IS crazy.

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As has been mentioned... to cover a huge market, different price rang/performance is needed. Thats why we have $80 cpus for low budget all the way through to the freaks that want the 1k+ performance chips

EDIT: Personally ive only ever seen the eXtreme CPU's as, the campanies that make them saying "HAHAHA look at what we can do"


Message edited by chookman on 12-06-2007 at 11:28:15 PM

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I don't really see the point in paying extra for an unlocked multiplier. Intel's latest chipsets can be overclocked to almost double their stock speed. Combine that with the fact that you can set the multiplier between 6x and the cpu's default, I think you have enough flexibility and headroom to push the CPU to its limit.

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By the way!

 

Many people who are getting the crazy OCs on the Intel chips are (decreasing the multi) on regular non-extreme chips. They are decreasing the multi and upping the FSB... Many are at 400+ using x8 multi.

 

I can provide links if needed.


Message edited by ches111 on 12-06-2007 at 11:44:08 PM

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then provide them, good sir

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Here is a start..

 

In this case the multi is x7

 

http://xtreview.com/review192.htm


Message edited by ches111 on 12-06-2007 at 11:59:59 PM

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This shows the E2160 beating the E6800 by a fair margin.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] html#sect0

The article also links to a review showing the X2 6000+ trailing the E6800 by well over 10%.

This would leave it well ahead of even the X2-6400+.
Since this article, the E2xxx series has moved to an even newer stepping further helping these chips reach new heights.

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This link shows an e4300 @ 400 x 8 using the stock cooler and stable.

http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/ [...] 00/11.html


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Where's the poll option for "I don't care about either company - I just buy what's the best at the current time?". It's not like the companies are giving us kickbacks or care if we live or die (intel and amd employees on this msg board excluded).


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Grimmy wrote :

Both Companies are insane when the have the better product on the market.



Neither company is insane; they charge what they can get for their products. It's the people who pay four times the price for 20% better performance who are insane (or rich).

If Intel wasn't selling chips at these prices, they'd reduce the price. But while AMD can't compete, they can charge high prices for the fastest chips... and get them.

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wolverinero79 wrote :

Where's the poll option for "I don't care about either company - I just buy what's the best at the current time?". It's not like the companies are giving us kickbacks or care if we live or die (intel and amd employees on this msg board excluded).



You neutral fanboy, you.

Oh, and to the OP -

The people who are willing to pay the crazy prices for the high end CPUs are the ones that are a bit crazy. Not 100%, but just a tad.
And, yes...I am jealous that they can afford one. But even if I could, I doubt I would buy one.


Message edited by NMDante on 12-07-2007 at 02:24:28 AM

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