$2700 gaming tower

Here are many detail pictures of the HDTV LCD. I have sizes up to 2560 if anyone wants them.

The album is a mix of my setup and the HDTV LCD
http://www.fileden.com/album/125027/40906


So after a little more reading and review I have changed out some parts. One of the big changes are going from a GTX to a GTS G92. I figure this would be best if later on Nvidia does not release a card in the time frame of my step up program (Jan-Mar) and I would not be "stuck" with a $500 card when I could get the same performance for around $100 less. Also as of now I only plan on gaming at 1900x1080 if I get an HDTV, around 30". Hopefully by Jan there will be some IR and MIR on some of the stuff that I want. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

Here is the 4th revision of the gaming tower

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

2x - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804 (4gb)

2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (raid0)

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler
Scythe S-FLEX SFF21E 120mm Case Fan

Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

CorePad C1 XXXL improved premium cloth mouse pads

Subtotal: $2,279.83

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Hello TM members :D

I would like some input on this build. This build will not happen most likely until the end of Dec 07 or in Jan 08. I might be switch out some components when they become available the time of the build, like CPU and GPU. Could you point out the weakness or a different components that would better fit this build. What I mean is I don't want to spend an extra $100 on a product that I could get for less at no cost in performance. For the sound card and speaker setup, should I get the Fatal1ty without the remote and control system since the Z-5500 speakers has a remote and control system already? Also consider the new products that are coming out that would benefit this build. I am thinking of running Vista 64 for DX10 and the use of 4gb memory. Is Vista 64 a good option or should I use 32 instead?

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 Intel X38 ATX Ultra Durable 2, Ultra Cooling Intel

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

ZEROtherm BTF95 CPU Cooler

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound

EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP

CORSAIR Dominator 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory

Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

GIGABYTE ODIN GE-S800A-D1 ATX12V / EPS12V 800W Power Supply Software Control

2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (for raid 0)

LITE-ON 20X DVD±R DVD Burner with 12X DVD-RAM write and LightScribe Technology Black E-IDE/ATAPI Model LH-20A1H-185

Creative 70SB046A00003 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi Platinum Fatal1ty Champion Series Sound Card

Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker


Subtotal: $2,617.87

I have a Logitech MX518 mouse and Saitek Eclipse keyboard. My new monitor will be either a 24" or a 30" or bigger HDTV. I am currently running a VG2030wm monitor.

Thank you for any suggestion and your time.

Here is the wishlist for easy lookup:
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7763188&WishListTitle=highend+build


Here is the 2nd revision.


Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W Power Supply

Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6850

2x - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model (4GB)

2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard (Raid 0)

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

Subtotal: $2,340.86

Here's the wish list for easy lookup and specs:
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7205506&WishListTitle=highend+build+2


Here is the 3rd revision of the gaming tower

Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W Power Supply

Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

2x - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804 (4gb)

2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (raid0)

SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler
Scythe S-FLEX SFF21E 120mm Case Fan

Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

Subtotal: $2,396.84

Here a like for easy lookup and specs:
https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9282667&WishListTitle=highend+build+3"]https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9282667&WishListTitle=highend+build+3


I had some questions regarding some of the parts. Has anyone experience any sag from the ultra 120 because of its weight and size, what about long term? I picked the sflex 1200rpm fan at around 20dba and was wondering if this is going to be enough if I intend to oc without being noisy. They had a 800rpm and a 1600rpm (28dba) but was not sure if the 1600rpm one would be a little noisy.

For the people that recommend the Klipsch. I checked out their promedia 5.1 ultra. I have not read much about it yet but so far I do like them. I am not sure if I like them more than the z5500. I wish they had a wireless controller and I do like how the wires are not permanent so you can choose your own length. I have heard that sometimes they do not last long but that could be just a bad batch or the old promedia 5.1 non ultra. It is also $60 if not more than the z5500. Can anyone give me some feed back who have these or heard the two for comparison. Please, no fanboy talk.

I'm am not sure why but one of their EVGA 8800GTX was taken out of the database so I replace it with the superclocked ver. for the same price.
EVGA 768-P2-N835-A3 GeForce 8800GTX Superclocked 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
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  1. doesnt sound like too bad of a setup. personally, i dont care for seagate hds. ive had tons of western digital hds and havent had an 1 issues with wd. they rma'd me a new hd and havent had a problem since! i would stick with the creative labs xfi card since the pc speakers already has a remote. i do have the dominator memory and i love it! NICE CHOICE! you may want to check out the nvida 9000 series when they are released but the 8800 gtx are solid cards. im still sticking with xp.....but with dx10 games look a little better but ill wait for vista to be come more stable bf i use it more. you can have another partition and have two os's . the GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 seems like a nice board and i have heard some good things. im considering getting that to replace my asus striker extreme
  2. I used both and have not had any fail on me *knock on wood. I will mainly use those two SG for the raid 0. I have about 3 or 4 more HD from SG, WD, and Samsung that I will use for storage, like my Sam 500GB external hard drive. Vista been out for almost a year now and usually thats when the OS starts to level out. Plus thats the only way to get DX10 setting without the file tweaks. I didn't choose the striker because I wanted to use DDR2 1066 memory. Still debating if im going with the q6600 or the new qx9650 thats coming out, if its even worth it. Thanks again for the reply.
  3. i have the q9650 and im happy with the cpu although i cant say if its worth the money. i hope seagate hds dont fail on u either. i just ban them now. from what ive read and seen there isnt much of a difference with dx 10. i mean the detail is slightly greater but i cant say i was really impressed with it. im still hearing about vista having problems and sp1 isnt supposed to help either from what i have read. you may want to consider running 2 os's just in case vista craps out on you. from what ive read the gigabyte board needs a bios update to work with the 45nm cpu's but after that it runs it like a champ. here is a little glimpse at vista sp1....doesnt sound promising
    http://megagames.com/news/html/software/xpsp3boostsperformancevistasp1doesnt.shtml
  4. I didn't know that the new qx9650 came out this month. Yea that is a pretty big jump in price, over $1000. That extra grand can buy you a lot of lap dances. I will consider the dual boot. Eventually vista will be leveled out. I can't remember if XP had this problem when it was released? The whole thing about the DX10 is that its nice knowing you have the option. I know that its not that much more of a differences from DX9 to DX10. The big improvement I've seen from DX10 is smoother/softer texture.
  5. i agree like a said seriously consider the dual boot to be safe and look at the link that i posted above....my change ur mind:)
  6. No dominator, it is a waste of money. Same with the 8800GTX. Wait for the new GTS on G92 with 1GB of RAM.
  7. nukchebi0 said:
    No dominator, it is a waste of money. Same with the 8800GTX. Wait for the new GTS on G92 with 1GB of RAM.



    I know the new GTS is coming out Dec 11th and until I see some benchmark that will out perform the GTX I'm not going to hold my breath. I am going with EVGA so I'll have the step-up program to back me up if something comes out after Jan which seem like the build date. You said no to the Dominator, but you didn't give a replacement? Doesn't help much....
  8. Here is an update list from the suggestions so far, please give input.


    Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

    ASUS P5N32-E SLI LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI ATX Intel Motherboard

    EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W Power Supply

    Intel Core 2 Duo E6850 Conroe 3.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E6850

    2x - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model (4GB)

    2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard (Raid 0)

    SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

    Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

    Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

    ZALMAN CNPS9700 LED 110mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler

    Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

    Subtotal: $2,340.86

    Here's the wish list for easy lookup and specs:
    https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=7205506&WishListTitle=highend+build+2
  9. lol...at first i thought you wanted to buy a 2700 dollar case! (because of your thread's title.)
  10. Here is the 3rd revision of the gaming tower

    Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

    ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

    EVGA 768-P2-N831-AR GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    PC Power & Cooling Silencer 750 Quad (Black) EPS12V 750W Power Supply

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

    2x - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804 (4gb)

    2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (raid0)

    SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

    Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

    Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler
    Scythe S-FLEX SFF21E 120mm Case Fan

    Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

    Subtotal: $2,396.84

    Here a like for easy lookup and specs:
    https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9282667&WishListTitle=highend+build+3


    I had some questions regarding some of the parts. Has anyone experience any sag from the ultra 120 because of its weight and size, what about long term? I picked the sflex 1200rpm fan at around 20dba and was wondering if this is going to be enough if I intend to oc without being noisy. They had a 800rpm and a 1600rpm (28dba) but was not sure if the 1600rpm one would be a little noisy.

    For the people that recommend the Klipsch. I checked out their promedia 5.1 ultra. I have not read much about it yet but so far I do like them. I am not sure if I like them more than the z5500. I wish they had a wireless controller and I do like how the wires are not permanent so you can choose your own length. I have heard that sometimes they do not last long but that could be just a bad batch or the old promedia 5.1 non ultra. It is also $60 if not more than the z5500. Can anyone give me some feed back who have these or heard the two for comparison. Please, no fanboy talk.

    I'm am not sure why but one of their EVGA 8800GTX was taken out of the database so I replace it with the superclocked ver. for the same price.
    EVGA 768-P2-N835-A3 GeForce 8800GTX Superclocked 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
  11. So after a little more reading and review I have changed out some parts. One of the big changes are going from a GTX to a GTS G92. I figure this would be best if later on Nvidia does not release a card in the time frame of my step up program (Jan-Mar) and I would not be "stuck" with a $500 card when I could get the same performance for around $100 less. Also as of now I only plan on gaming at 1900x1080 if I get an HDTV, around 30". Hopefully by Jan there will be some IR and MIR on some of the stuff that I want. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

    Here is the 4th revision of the gaming tower

    Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

    ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

    EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

    2x - Crucial Ballistix 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT12864AA804 (4gb)

    2x - Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive (raid0)

    SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

    Creative 70SB046A00000 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeGamer Fatal1ty Professional Series

    Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Ultimate for System Builders Single Pack DVD

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler
    Scythe S-FLEX SFF21E 120mm Case Fan

    Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

    CorePad C1 XXXL improved premium cloth mouse pads

    Subtotal: $2,279.83

    https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9564387&WishListTitle=highend+build+4"]https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9564387&WishListTitle=highend+build+4
  12. I cant fault it... nice build all up
  13. thanks for the comment. I was looking for good criticisms if anyone had any.
  14. although I'm not the biggest fan of nvidia chipsets, with your budget, you should go a dual card build. Your rig looks absolutely perfect, but I'd nab two 8800 GT's instead in a sli build, they will decimate the single card solutions for a great price.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150259

    they have faster clocked models in stock atm if you want to get those. The performance difference between a single and sli setup is pretty massive.

    Also, If you don't care for the front 5.25 bay panel of the creative x-fi platinum, I'd recommend grabbing a Auzentech X-Fi Prelude instead.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005&Tpk=auzentech%2bx-fi%2bprelude

    It doesn't have the 5.25 bay, it also has more connectors. Creative licensed out their X-FI chip to Auzentech. The auzentech uses higher quality components than the x-fi platinum from creative.

    Since you plan to play in 1920+, you'll be able to heavily crank up the eye candy/aa/af on a SLI solution.

    If you plan to go single solution still, I can't complain, great build, glad to see you getting the g92 GTS instead of the GTX, same performance, cheaper, less power consumption, overall better. But a dual 8800 GT rig would decimate both single card solutions, for a great price as well, pretty much just 40 bucks above the retail 500 price tag of a 8800 GTX. If you want to check out the performance difference, check out the the toms hardware VGA chart. Make sure you compare the 8800 GT to the GTX, also open the dual/quad vga charge in a new window, to compare the 8800 GT sli to a 8800 GTX.

    Keep in mind, they use older games on the chart, some games support sli, and some don't. But as time goes by, more games will adopt it since it's becoming heavily mainstream with these new mid range cards and tri-sli and crossfirex becoming a reality.
  15. Kamrooz said:
    although I'm not the biggest fan of nvidia chipsets, with your budget, you should go a dual card build. Your rig looks absolutely perfect, but I'd nab two 8800 GT's instead in a sli build, they will decimate the single card solutions for a great price.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150259

    they have faster clocked models in stock atm if you want to get those. The performance difference between a single and sli setup is pretty massive.

    Also, If you don't care for the front 5.25 bay panel of the creative x-fi platinum, I'd recommend grabbing a Auzentech X-Fi Prelude instead.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829156005&Tpk=auzentech%2bx-fi%2bprelude

    It doesn't have the 5.25 bay, it also has more connectors. Creative licensed out their X-FI chip to Auzentech. The auzentech uses higher quality components than the x-fi platinum from creative.

    Since you plan to play in 1920+, you'll be able to heavily crank up the eye candy/aa/af on a SLI solution.

    If you plan to go single solution still, I can't complain, great build, glad to see you getting the g92 GTS instead of the GTX, same performance, cheaper, less power consumption, overall better. But a dual 8800 GT rig would decimate both single card solutions, for a great price as well, pretty much just 40 bucks above the retail 500 price tag of a 8800 GTX. If you want to check out the performance difference, check out the the toms hardware VGA chart. Make sure you compare the 8800 GT to the GTX, also open the dual/quad vga charge in a new window, to compare the 8800 GT sli to a 8800 GTX.

    Keep in mind, they use older games on the chart, some games support sli, and some don't. But as time goes by, more games will adopt it since it's becoming heavily mainstream with these new mid range cards and tri-sli and crossfirex becoming a reality.


    lol, Kam your not a Nvidia fan but you keep on "pushing" me to do SLI 8800gt ever since the 32" thread. I'll keep the 8800gt in mind. One of the reason I didn't add it to the list was because for awhile it was so hard to find Evga 8800gt. Now Newegg is stocking them again so I might do a switch up later on. I wonder how the step up program works if you want to switch two cards for one? All this waiting... I just want to get it now but I know it would be better if I waited at least till Jan.

    On another note, I might pick up the Sharp 32" LC-32GP1U (Gamer). I only hope those go down soon.

    The Auzen looks great but is it worth $50 more?

    Thanks again for your input.
  16. Nice build so far. I’m actually in the exact same boat as you, for the most part. I’m building my system roughly the same time and with a similar budget. The only suggestions I have are to change:

    Artic Silver 5 -> Artic Cooling MX-2
    Somewhere on Google x.x

    Corsair Power Supply -> ABS BZ series 700W
    Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814015
    Review: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQyNCw5LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

    The MX-2 gives better thermal transfer rates and the ABS BZ series is essentially the same thing as PC Power & Cooling power supplies, single rail capable.

    Other things to consider might include the release of Intel’s Q9450 in January, new motherboard releases and compatibility, and since you’re going to use a 64-bit OS maybe (2 x 2GB) of RAM so you have the option of going 4 x 2GB in the future. Oh, and high RPM/CFM fans can be found on the cheap at Newegg depending on what you prefer.

    Maybe SLI 8800 GT or GTS (92)?

    As far as your monitor is concerned, I’m still looking around in this field and an HDTV solution has crossed my mind a few times. Keep me posted on your 1920x1080 24-32” HDTV search. =]
  17. Tsukasa said:
    Nice build so far. I’m actually in the exact same boat as you, for the most part. I’m building my system roughly the same time and with a similar budget. The only suggestions I have are to change:

    Artic Silver 5 -> Artic Cooling MX-2
    Somewhere on Google x.x

    Corsair Power Supply -> ABS BZ series 700W
    Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817814015
    Review: http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTQyNCw5LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==

    The MX-2 gives better thermal transfer rates and the ABS BZ series is essentially the same thing as PC Power & Cooling power supplies, single rail capable.

    Other things to consider might include the release of Intel’s Q9450 in January, new motherboard releases and compatibility, and since you’re going to use a 64-bit OS maybe (2 x 2GB) of RAM so you have the option of going 4 x 2GB in the future. Oh, and high RPM/CFM fans can be found on the cheap at Newegg depending on what you prefer.

    Maybe SLI 8800 GT or GTS (92)?

    As far as your monitor is concerned, I’m still looking around in this field and an HDTV solution has crossed my mind a few times. Keep me posted on your 1920x1080 24-32” HDTV search. =]


    Thanks for the input Tsuk. You might have read the wrong revision because on rev. 4 I didn't include the PC power PSU anymore. I changed it out with the Corsair HX620.

    I'll look up the thermal paste you suggested. I did notice it was $8 less than the AS5.

    As CPU and Mobo, I was hoping the same thing in Jan. We'll have to see what the verdict is on some benches and reviews.

    Others too have suggested 2x2gb instead of 4x1gb sticks. One person mention something about power consumptions issue when 4x1gb sticks are installed with some mobos.

    The Sycthe fan I got is suppose to be from vary good company as far as fans go. The version I got spins at 1200rpm leaving me with around 20dba and 49cfm. They have a 1600rpm but I didn't want it to be too noisy at 28dba. The fan I got is want most people are getting with their Ultra 120 heatsink.

    Some of the reasons I wanted an HDTV was because gaming at 1920x1080 was more reasonable than 2560x1600. I rather have a 1920x1080 at 32" than a 1920x1200 at 24". Having th ability to use it as a HDTV media monitor is nice too. Gaming at such high res (2560x1600) with high setting would mean doing SLI GTX or better with a better CPU (stock). Also with the games of 08 would only mean higher demands in hardware power at those res (2560x1600).

    If you click on the wish list (highend build 4) you can see details of my list. Most likely everything will be bought from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.

    Do you have a list I can look at to see your future setup?
  18. Keep in mind, a 24" monitor has a small dot pitch, what does that mean?...Smaller pixels, which in turn mean very sharp quality. If you would nab a 28 inch screen with the same resolution, the pixels would be bigger, so if you sit closer, the image would be more blurry.

    This is one reason why 30" are 2560x1600, much sharper picture at a closer range. If you were to nab a 1920x1080 HDTV, make sure you're sitting a decent amount away, the closer you get, the larger the pixels and blurrier the screen. If you are going to be using this monitor as a desk standing monitor with 1-3 feet of space, make sure you get a 30" monitor with 2560x1600 resolution compared to the larger displays with a smaller resolution.

    In regards to the sound card, if it's worth it to you, yes. The Auzentech uses higher quality components, which in turn means better sound. Keep in mind though, the differences between the creative card and the auzentech's model is not that vast. Plus, with the creative brand you get the front 5.25 bay, if that's important to you, grab the creative card, if you want the up most quality, nab Auzentech's.

    Keep in mind though, Auzentech's card did launch with Creative drivers, they've been working on their own which will end up being better, but they are still having some licensing issues with Dolby.....The main detest for Creative, are there drivers. Creative makes great products, but their driver development really blows, so to have another X-Fi branded card is a god send.

    But do keep in in mind it's limited atm due to drivers, so you might want to just go with Creative's card.

    For the psu, the 620HX is good, but also look into the Pc Power Silencer 610 if you don't plan to go SLi, if you do change your mind and go SLI, nab the Quad 750 from PC Power.
  19. junglicious said:
    Thanks for the input Tsuk. You might have read the wrong revision because on rev. 4 I didn't include the PC power PSU anymore. I changed it out with the Corsair HX620.

    I'll look up the thermal paste you suggested. I did notice it was $8 less than the AS5.

    As CPU and Mobo, I was hoping the same thing in Jan. We'll have to see what the verdict is on some benches and reviews.

    Others too have suggested 2x2gb instead of 4x1gb sticks. One person mention something about power consumptions issue when 4x1gb sticks are installed with some mobos.

    The Sycthe fan I got is suppose to be from vary good company as far as fans go. The version I got spins at 1200rpm leaving me with around 20dba and 49cfm. They have a 1600rpm but I didn't want it to be too noisy at 28dba. The fan I got is want most people are getting with their Ultra 120 heatsink.

    Some of the reasons I wanted an HDTV was because gaming at 1920x1080 was more reasonable than 2560x1600. I rather have a 1920x1080 at 32" than a 1920x1200 at 24". Having th ability to use it as a HDTV media monitor is nice too. Gaming at such high res (2560x1600) with high setting would mean doing SLI GTX or better with a better CPU (stock). Also with the games of 08 would only mean higher demands in hardware power at those res (2560x1600).

    If you click on the wish list (highend build 4) you can see details of my list. Most likely everything will be bought from Newegg or ZipZoomFly.

    Do you have a list I can look at to see your future setup?



    Well, after your request to see a wishlist I actually put more effort into my build (Specific HDDs, CD, and MB models) so its now in its final stage of development.
    https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9597927&WishListTitle=College+Build

    On the list the Q6600 is to be replaced with a Q9450 and the 680i board is to be replaced with an Asus Striker II Formula (780i) Motherboard as it will be able to support BOTH Penryn and SLI, also the integrated water cooling is a nice touch for my build.

    The 2 x 250GB HDs are in Raid 1 (security) and the two raptors are in performance raid (74GB effective). My current monitor choice is a Dell 2407WFP-HC and the cooling will be preformed by two thermochill 240 radiators, two modified pumps and Three D-Tek FuZion water blocks (2xGPU, 1xCPU). Going EVGA for vid cards for the possible step-up in February after the 9 series is released.

    After lengthy research on the monitor, I might still keep the Dell even if a nice HDTV were found at a small enough size; I'm still attentive to your search though :D

    Note on components: Everything in that build was well researched for optimum performance. This particular build has been in the works for the last year, evolving as new parts and reviews were released and discovered.

    I think that build is similar to your budget, with maybe the exception to the water cooling, so I hope it was informative and didn't deviate from your intended thread.

    Good luck with your search and keep me posted mate ;)
  20. junglicious,

    I have a question about the resolutions youre playing at.
    Did you think about a dual ATI 3750 setup?
  21. He will probably be playing at 1920x1080 (1920x1200) resolution seeing as he prefers a 1920x1080 HDTV setup over a cheaper and more widely available HDTV at a lower resolution.

    Besides 8800GT > ATi 3870 :kaola:
  22. Indeed, thats why i suggested the double cards setup

    I suggested the xfire setup because off this resolution and his P35 pro mobo

    He can always try one and add another 3780 card if one card doesnt cut it.
  23. Nice build Tsuk.

    That case is "A LOT". Makes my TT Armor look like a regular case.

    I was also thinking about going with one of the $300 mobo but since I will only be using the Q6600 it would be overkill. However It would be nice if I did decide to upgrade later on. I have a bad habit of usually doing a full tower upgrade however and not just parts.

    I see you went with the ABS. HardOCP did a review on that PSU, the 800w flavor.

    Those 4GB G.Skills are nice. How well do they perform? The price is not bad at all for 4GB of DDR 1000.

    I do not mind gaming at 2560x at all with high/max settings. However that would cost a lot of money in the long run and is not practical for me. If I did graphic design as a career then I would jump on that bang wagon. I'm coming from 1680x1050 so I think at 1920x1080 would be a good jump. I remember when I was using 800x600 and 1024x768. I know in the future I will be using 2560x when It becomes more mainstream and available not at a cost of an arm and a leg. I know people who are still using 1024x and 1280x is now widely use IMO. The Dell monitor looks tempting at 24". The Gateway 30" is the sweet spot that cost I believe over $1500. It also has 1:1 so you can scale it to 1920x without image distortion is what I've heard.

    I plan to stick with Intel/Nvidia this time as I have done AMD/ATI already, many times.

    My research has been going on for 3-4 months now and just recently been more in depth and "intense". I think I'll pull the trigger in Jan. I'm hoping I can at least last till mid or the end of Jan.

    Kam,

    I am aware of the pixel being bigger at 1920x on a 30" screen. I will mostly buy the HDTV from one of the major chain stores locally so I can test it out. Once I find out or have a better ideal as to what I will accept I will make my purchase online if I can find a better deal (more than $100 saving)

    I am getting the professional version not the platinum version with the 5.25 bay. I'll do a little more research and see if the Auzen is "right" for me.

    If you guys are on the Hardforums, stop by my thread http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1253049 "GTX G92" and post your opinion. Someone on here told me about that forum, it might have been you Kam.
  24. I'm ordering the final parts tonight. This is what I will have:

    Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan

    ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard

    EVGA 512-P3-N841-A3 GeForce 8800GTS (G92) 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card

    CORSAIR CMPSU-620HX ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 620W Power Supply

    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80562Q6600

    Patriot Extreme Performance 4GB(2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PDC24G6400ELK

    WD Raptor X 150GB

    SAMSUNG 20X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S203B

    AuzenTech Auzen X-Fi Prelude 7.1 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Sound Card

    Microsoft Windows Vista 64-Bit Premium for System Builders Single Pack DVD

    Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
    Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme CPU Cooler
    Scythe S-FLEX SFF21E 120mm Case Fan

    Logitech Z-5500 505 Watts 5.1 Speaker

    CorePad C1 XXXL improved premium cloth mouse pads

    Things I have changed is Home Premium 64 from Ultimate 64 and Raptor X 150gb from cuda 320gb raid0, I'll do raid0 on my other hd I have. I'll just have replaceable movies on raid0 so if it fails, nothing is lost. I just want to see the performance deference of the two storage setup. I'm holding off on the Z-5500 and the Prelude setup until prices go down on the Z-5500 or a better deal comes. I want to see how the onboard sound would work to my current speaker system, X-530. I will also be trying out the new Sharp 32" LC-32GP3U. I will post some pictures and benchmarks, before and after OC.

    Thank you for all your help so far, much appreciated.
  25. Or you could get this: http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-REGZA-40RF350U-Super-Narrow/dp/B000W3JHJK

    It's a 40 inch screen that has its frame squished so the width is only about 37". 5 inches bigger, but then again it's the same price for the same pixel size. 2 ms more, but as is the case with most monitors this isn't really an issue of how they report it but how it actually performs.
  26. Pigs said:
    Or you could get this: http://www.amazon.com/Toshiba-REGZA-40RF350U-Super-Narrow/dp/B000W3JHJK

    It's a 40 inch screen that has its frame squished so the width is only about 37". 5 inches bigger, but then again it's the same price for the same pixel size. 2 ms more, but as is the case with most monitors this isn't really an issue of how they report it but how it actually performs.


    Thanks for the heads up. I would think that 1900x1080 would look better on a 32" than a 40". Also 40" is maybe a little to big for a computer monitor that will be sitting on my desk and viewing from 2-3ft.
    Thanks again.
  27. Here are many detail pictures of the HDTV LCD. I have sizes up to 2560 if anyone wants them.

    The album is a mix of my setup and the HDTV LCD
    http://www.fileden.com/album/125027/40906
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