So after a little more reading and review I have changed out some parts. One of the big changes are going from a GTX to a GTS G92. I figure this would be best if later on Nvidia does not release a card in the time frame of my step up program (Jan-Mar) and I would not be "stuck" with a $500 card when I could get the same performance for around $100 less. Also as of now I only plan on gaming at 1900x1080 if I get an HDTV, around 30". Hopefully by Jan there will be some IR and MIR on some of the stuff that I want. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Here is the 4th revision of the gaming tower
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan
ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
I would like some input on this build. This build will not happen most likely until the end of Dec 07 or in Jan 08. I might be switch out some components when they become available the time of the build, like CPU and GPU. Could you point out the weakness or a different components that would better fit this build. What I mean is I don't want to spend an extra $100 on a product that I could get for less at no cost in performance. For the sound card and speaker setup, should I get the Fatal1ty without the remote and control system since the Z-5500 speakers has a remote and control system already? Also consider the new products that are coming out that would benefit this build. I am thinking of running Vista 64 for DX10 and the use of 4gb memory. Is Vista 64 a good option or should I use 32 instead?
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan
I have a Logitech MX518 mouse and Saitek Eclipse keyboard. My new monitor will be either a 24" or a 30" or bigger HDTV. I am currently running a VG2030wm monitor.
I had some questions regarding some of the parts. Has anyone experience any sag from the ultra 120 because of its weight and size, what about long term? I picked the sflex 1200rpm fan at around 20dba and was wondering if this is going to be enough if I intend to oc without being noisy. They had a 800rpm and a 1600rpm (28dba) but was not sure if the 1600rpm one would be a little noisy.
For the people that recommend the Klipsch. I checked out their promedia 5.1 ultra. I have not read much about it yet but so far I do like them. I am not sure if I like them more than the z5500. I wish they had a wireless controller and I do like how the wires are not permanent so you can choose your own length. I have heard that sometimes they do not last long but that could be just a bad batch or the old promedia 5.1 non ultra. It is also $60 if not more than the z5500. Can anyone give me some feed back who have these or heard the two for comparison. Please, no fanboy talk.
I'm am not sure why but one of their EVGA 8800GTX was taken out of the database so I replace it with the superclocked ver. for the same price.
EVGA 768-P2-N835-A3 GeForce 8800GTX Superclocked 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
Message edited by junglicious on 02-02-2008 at 10:15:00 PM
doesnt sound like too bad of a setup. personally, i dont care for seagate hds. ive had tons of western digital hds and havent had an 1 issues with wd. they rma'd me a new hd and havent had a problem since! i would stick with the creative labs xfi card since the pc speakers already has a remote. i do have the dominator memory and i love it! NICE CHOICE! you may want to check out the nvida 9000 series when they are released but the 8800 gtx are solid cards. im still sticking with xp.....but with dx10 games look a little better but ill wait for vista to be come more stable bf i use it more. you can have another partition and have two os's . the GIGABYTE GA-X38-DQ6 LGA 775 seems like a nice board and i have heard some good things. im considering getting that to replace my asus striker extreme
Message edited by dwthor02 on 11-30-2007 at 05:30:53 AM
I used both and have not had any fail on me *knock on wood. I will mainly use those two SG for the raid 0. I have about 3 or 4 more HD from SG, WD, and Samsung that I will use for storage, like my Sam 500GB external hard drive. Vista been out for almost a year now and usually thats when the OS starts to level out. Plus thats the only way to get DX10 setting without the file tweaks. I didn't choose the striker because I wanted to use DDR2 1066 memory. Still debating if im going with the q6600 or the new qx9650 thats coming out, if its even worth it. Thanks again for the reply.
i have the q9650 and im happy with the cpu although i cant say if its worth the money. i hope seagate hds dont fail on u either. i just ban them now. from what ive read and seen there isnt much of a difference with dx 10. i mean the detail is slightly greater but i cant say i was really impressed with it. im still hearing about vista having problems and sp1 isnt supposed to help either from what i have read. you may want to consider running 2 os's just in case vista craps out on you. from what ive read the gigabyte board needs a bios update to work with the 45nm cpu's but after that it runs it like a champ. here is a little glimpse at vista sp1....doesnt sound promising
http://megagames.com/news/html/sof [...] esnt.shtml
I didn't know that the new qx9650 came out this month. Yea that is a pretty big jump in price, over $1000. That extra grand can buy you a lot of lap dances. I will consider the dual boot. Eventually vista will be leveled out. I can't remember if XP had this problem when it was released? The whole thing about the DX10 is that its nice knowing you have the option. I know that its not that much more of a differences from DX9 to DX10. The big improvement I've seen from DX10 is smoother/softer texture.
No dominator, it is a waste of money. Same with the 8800GTX. Wait for the new GTS on G92 with 1GB of RAM.
I know the new GTS is coming out Dec 11th and until I see some benchmark that will out perform the GTX I'm not going to hold my breath. I am going with EVGA so I'll have the step-up program to back me up if something comes out after Jan which seem like the build date. You said no to the Dominator, but you didn't give a replacement? Doesn't help much....
I had some questions regarding some of the parts. Has anyone experience any sag from the ultra 120 because of its weight and size, what about long term? I picked the sflex 1200rpm fan at around 20dba and was wondering if this is going to be enough if I intend to oc without being noisy. They had a 800rpm and a 1600rpm (28dba) but was not sure if the 1600rpm one would be a little noisy.
For the people that recommend the Klipsch. I checked out their promedia 5.1 ultra. I have not read much about it yet but so far I do like them. I am not sure if I like them more than the z5500. I wish they had a wireless controller and I do like how the wires are not permanent so you can choose your own length. I have heard that sometimes they do not last long but that could be just a bad batch or the old promedia 5.1 non ultra. It is also $60 if not more than the z5500. Can anyone give me some feed back who have these or heard the two for comparison. Please, no fanboy talk.
I'm am not sure why but one of their EVGA 8800GTX was taken out of the database so I replace it with the superclocked ver. for the same price. EVGA 768-P2-N835-A3 GeForce 8800GTX Superclocked 768MB 384-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
Message edited by junglicious on 12-04-2007 at 02:28:16 AM
So after a little more reading and review I have changed out some parts. One of the big changes are going from a GTX to a GTS G92. I figure this would be best if later on Nvidia does not release a card in the time frame of my step up program (Jan-Mar) and I would not be "stuck" with a $500 card when I could get the same performance for around $100 less. Also as of now I only plan on gaming at 1900x1080 if I get an HDTV, around 30". Hopefully by Jan there will be some IR and MIR on some of the stuff that I want. Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
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Here is the 4th revision of the gaming tower
Thermaltake Armor Series VA8003BWS Black Full Tower Case w/ 25CM Fan
ABIT IP35 Pro LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard
although I'm not the biggest fan of nvidia chipsets, with your budget, you should go a dual card build. Your rig looks absolutely perfect, but I'd nab two 8800 GT's instead in a sli build, they will decimate the single card solutions for a great price.
It doesn't have the 5.25 bay, it also has more connectors. Creative licensed out their X-FI chip to Auzentech. The auzentech uses higher quality components than the x-fi platinum from creative.
Since you plan to play in 1920+, you'll be able to heavily crank up the eye candy/aa/af on a SLI solution.
If you plan to go single solution still, I can't complain, great build, glad to see you getting the g92 GTS instead of the GTX, same performance, cheaper, less power consumption, overall better. But a dual 8800 GT rig would decimate both single card solutions, for a great price as well, pretty much just 40 bucks above the retail 500 price tag of a 8800 GTX. If you want to check out the performance difference, check out the the toms hardware VGA chart. Make sure you compare the 8800 GT to the GTX, also open the dual/quad vga charge in a new window, to compare the 8800 GT sli to a 8800 GTX.
Keep in mind, they use older games on the chart, some games support sli, and some don't. But as time goes by, more games will adopt it since it's becoming heavily mainstream with these new mid range cards and tri-sli and crossfirex becoming a reality.
although I'm not the biggest fan of nvidia chipsets, with your budget, you should go a dual card build. Your rig looks absolutely perfect, but I'd nab two 8800 GT's instead in a sli build, they will decimate the single card solutions for a great price.
It doesn't have the 5.25 bay, it also has more connectors. Creative licensed out their X-FI chip to Auzentech. The auzentech uses higher quality components than the x-fi platinum from creative.
Since you plan to play in 1920+, you'll be able to heavily crank up the eye candy/aa/af on a SLI solution.
If you plan to go single solution still, I can't complain, great build, glad to see you getting the g92 GTS instead of the GTX, same performance, cheaper, less power consumption, overall better. But a dual 8800 GT rig would decimate both single card solutions, for a great price as well, pretty much just 40 bucks above the retail 500 price tag of a 8800 GTX. If you want to check out the performance difference, check out the the toms hardware VGA chart. Make sure you compare the 8800 GT to the GTX, also open the dual/quad vga charge in a new window, to compare the 8800 GT sli to a 8800 GTX.
Keep in mind, they use older games on the chart, some games support sli, and some don't. But as time goes by, more games will adopt it since it's becoming heavily mainstream with these new mid range cards and tri-sli and crossfirex becoming a reality.
lol, Kam your not a Nvidia fan but you keep on "pushing" me to do SLI 8800gt ever since the 32" thread. I'll keep the 8800gt in mind. One of the reason I didn't add it to the list was because for awhile it was so hard to find Evga 8800gt. Now Newegg is stocking them again so I might do a switch up later on. I wonder how the step up program works if you want to switch two cards for one? All this waiting... I just want to get it now but I know it would be better if I waited at least till Jan.
On another note, I might pick up the Sharp 32" LC-32GP1U (Gamer). I only hope those go down soon.
The Auzen looks great but is it worth $50 more?
Thanks again for your input.
Message edited by junglicious on 12-15-2007 at 07:59:09 AM
Nice build so far. I’m actually in the exact same boat as you, for the most part. I’m building my system roughly the same time and with a similar budget. The only suggestions I have are to change:
Artic Silver 5 -> Artic Cooling MX-2
Somewhere on Google x.x
The MX-2 gives better thermal transfer rates and the ABS BZ series is essentially the same thing as PC Power & Cooling power supplies, single rail capable.
Other things to consider might include the release of Intel’s Q9450 in January, new motherboard releases and compatibility, and since you’re going to use a 64-bit OS maybe (2 x 2GB) of RAM so you have the option of going 4 x 2GB in the future. Oh, and high RPM/CFM fans can be found on the cheap at Newegg depending on what you prefer.
Maybe SLI 8800 GT or GTS (92)?
As far as your monitor is concerned, I’m still looking around in this field and an HDTV solution has crossed my mind a few times. Keep me posted on your 1920x1080 24-32” HDTV search. =]
