AMD 6000+ vs Pentium D 925

[relisys]

Hi, i'm interested in getting the AMD 6000+ (2 x 3.0Ghz), i saw the Pentium D 925 which is also 3.0Ghz and is cheaper, I have never had an intel CPU myself, i would like to geet another AMD but obviously if the intel is the same or bette i'll get that.

Also if any one could recommend a better CPU for around the same price if not cheaper that would be great, Really looking for atleast a 3.0Ghz dualcore, no quads thank you.

So if any one could help me it would be most appreciated. :

Cheers, Relisys

FOR FUTURE POSTERS I AM UPGRADING EVERY THING IF YOU WONDERED, NOT JUST CPU. jUST WANT TO KNOW WHICH CPU TO GET

 

[Grimmy]

Stay away from Pentium D. The better CPU by intel is Core 2 Duo, or Pentium E2xxx. (overclocking wise)

But that 6000+ (or 6400+ BE) should be able to run anything you through at it with no problems.

This is going with the assumption that you don't plan on over clocking anything.

 

[relisys]

I'm quite a regular gamer, play in serveral clans and that but all i'm looking for is a nice stable CPU that gets me by with no problems. Atm i just have a 4000+ which a single core and it runs great, so i assumed the 6000+ would be alot better.

I don't know the first thing about over clocking so yes your assumption was correct

 

[Grimmy]

Oooph... 4000+ SD? Not sure if you can find a 939 6000+ chip.

To get you on a dual core, perhaps a 4200+ would be a decent upgrade, without moving to another platform.

Perhaps the other guys could help with some advice. I'm guessing most would say go to an intel setup.

 

[zenmaster]

Yes a 4200+ or perhaps an Opteron, but I have not checked prices recently.

What is your current system?
How Much RAM? What type of GPU?
What games do you play and want to play?
That might give us an idea if a CPU upgrade woudl help or some other options?

 

[Grimmy]

I was going to say opteron as well, wasn't sure of the prices.

AMD Opteron 180 Denmark 2.4GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor
$179
AMD Opteron 185 Denmark 2.6GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core Processor
$235
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ Manchester 2.2GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor
$73

Less cach on the 4200+ would be the only downside, but wouldn't hurt on everything. Gaming should be the same or better on dual core support.

 

[Ycon]

There are newer processors than the PD so you should get those (Core2)

However, the X2 will be faster at stock, but after OC the PD will leave it eating... err... dust? pixels? whatever

 

[runswindows95]

The only sensible upgrade would be the X2 4200+. After that, save the money towards a new build.

 

[jitpublisher]

Wait a minute everyone. These are ridiclous suggestions to increase gaming performance on a socket 939 system running a 4000+.
Unless you are playing a game that can make use of the X2's dual core the OP is not going to get much of a gaming performance increase by going to a 4200 X2. The 4000+ s939 chip is about top of the line for gaming on a 939 platform, saving the FX series. He would have to overclock the 4200 X2 to at least 4800 X2 speeds to see any improvement
If he has an AM2 socket, he is on the right track.

 

[TechnologyCoordinator]

I've got an S939 Opty 175 and I love it. Of course if I was buying today I'd get a new mobo and go Q6600.

 

[zenmaster]

The problem with getting a new Mobo or going Intel is that he would likely need......

New Mobo
New CPU
New RAM
New GPU..............

So that is far from a simple upgrade.

Depending on his needs, it may be time to take that step.
But that is why I am trying to find out what he needs to do and what he has.

 

[nightscope]

Surprising that no one suggested Intel (strongly at least). Personally I would upgrade your whole platform to AM2. If you plan to do that, then you can get a decent am2 motherboard, 2 gigs ddr2-800 ram, and the x2 6000, for around $300. You will see a very noticeable increase in performance.

 

[relisys]

FOR FUTURE POSTERS I AM UPGRADING EVERY THING IF YOU WONDERED, NOT JUST CPU. JUST WANT TO KNOW WHICH CPU TO GET. I HAVE AN AM2 THAT SUPPORTS X2 SO IT SHOULD IN THEORY RUNAN 6000+. SORRY IF I CONFUSED YOU GUYS. PLUS I HAD A 4200+ AND IT DIDNT SEEM THAT MUCH BETTER

 

[Shadow703793]

Build a new Intel system. Even with a E2180 OCed you can get very good results. I suggest a cheap E2180 or better CPU along with a P35-DS3L\R.

OC Results for E2180:
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=dodzmgtgxlw&thumb=4
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.php?quickkey=ftenwyjdddn&thumb=4

 

[smelly_feet]

I thought any x2 proc is better than the d925, and runs cooler

 

[Grimmy]

Soooo... perhaps a list?

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ Windsor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM2 Processor $159.99

ASUS M2R32-MVP AM2 AMD 580X CrossFire ATX AMD Motherboar$119.99

mushkin 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) with EPP Profile Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory$64.99

Total: $344.97

Not sure about what video card options/choices would be best for him...

 

[BaronMatrix]

Even though AMD is price\perf compatible with Intel, people will still say buy Intel whether you ant to or not. A 6000+ will scream. Go for it.

 

[relisys]

I just got 6000+ x2, 2 gig of ram (already got 2 gig) a HD3850 graphics card and dont need a mother board cos mine is up to date(ish) all for £230

 

[Grimmy]

So... your gonna, ummm... try to use the same MB that was running your 4000+ single core, which should be a san diego, 939 socket? The 6000+ is 940 AM2 socket. AM2 sockets use DDR2 memory... . o O (I'm sooooo confused)

 

[jitpublisher]

So... your gonna, ummm... try to use the same MB that was running your 4000+ single core, which should be a san diego, 939 socket? The 6000+ is 940 AM2 socket. AM2 sockets use DDR2 memory... . o O (I'm sooooo confused)

Grimmy, there is a 4000+ AM2 940 socket CPU, and the OP says he does indeed now have a AM2 socket board.
I was a little confused at the posters questions also, but he has since stated that he is upgrading EVERYTHING, just wants opinions on the CPU......

 

[Grimmy]

Well... the AM2 4000+ is a dual core, he said he had a single core 4000+ which as to be the 939.

Now that he edit his 1st post, which still mentions P-D 925, its just adding to more confusion. :lol:

Relisys.. how about listing what your getting as far as upgrading parts? Like what MB/RAM/Video/PSU are you getting?

Edit:

Or at least list your current stuff.

 

[relisys]

thank you jitpublish er for making it clear to every one , yes ther is an AM2 mother board that supports a 4000+ too Grimmy.

 

[jitpublisher]

Hi, i'm interested in getting the AMD 6000+ (2 x 3.0Ghz), i saw the Pentium D 925 which is also 3.0Ghz and is cheaper, I have never had an intel CPU myself, i would like to geet another AMD but obviously if the intel is the same or bette i'll get that.

Also if any one could recommend a better CPU for around the same price if not cheaper that would be great, Really looking for atleast a 3.0Ghz dualcore, no quads thank you.

So if any one could help me it would be most appreciated. :

Cheers, Relisys

FOR FUTURE POSTERS I AM UPGRADING EVERY THING IF YOU WONDERED, NOT JUST CPU. jUST WANT TO KNOW WHICH CPU TO GET

Simply put, mhz for mhz,
Pentium D< Dual Core Athlons< Intel Core 2 Duo.
The Pentium D's use the old P-4 net-burst architecture, are pretty much the last of the Pentium series of processors.

 

[quantumsheep]

I recommend getting an E6750 or similar with a Gigabyte P35 DS3 motherboard, will be an absolute screamer. Unless you're into overclocking, then i'd recommend getting an E4400/4500.

On the AMD side the 6000+ is a great CPU, more than capable of running any modern games. Just not as overclockable as the Intel solutions.

 

[runswindows95]

E6750 since you're doing a total upgrade. If you were just upgrading your CPU, then the 6000+.