Q9450 8X multiplier?

i've read the Q9450 is only going to have an 8X multiplier!!
maybe its just me or is this going to make it a crap overclocker?
am i better off with a Q6600 G0 9X multiplier?

you would need a 450FSB just to hit 3.6 which is what most people are hitting on Q6600 running 400FSB X9

Really? I had no idea.

Seriously though on air the limit is about 3.6 for a Q6600. The Q9450 might clock higher, who knows.

This die shrink is pretty much looking like a skip for me. Thanks be to Intel for making it a 1333 FSB.

Anyways.. I know what you are saying, it's been a debate for a while now. 500x8 is still 4.0 GHz... and the Q9450s on a good motherboard might do that.

I've seen some X38s and P35s getting close.

440-450 on quads. I have my fingers crossed that we'll be able to get 500 with a more mature BIOS and maybe seperate GTL Ref per die. It's been obvious for a while that the Q9450 would be limited more by it's FSB wall than thermals anyway.

So, back to my original question,
is it worth waiting for Q9450 or just buy Q6600 & ASUS MF now?
(shame intel didnt make Q9450 9X multi, that would be one hell of a CPU!)

i wasnt asking if they will work together! i was asking if the X48 will hit 500FSB no problems

thats what i thought! im not too clued up on "CPU PLL, CPU VTT, NB Voltage, GTL Refs"
so the thought of an idiot proof overclock to at least 3.2-3.4ghz sounds ideal to me
thanks for info

Ha!! Thats a good one! Got me thinkin for once

Ok...well logically that means that the Q9450 will be able (for example) to use DDR3 1333 at 1333mhz at its stock speed, while the Q6600 will have to be overclocked to use it at 1333 speed.

So..

I guess the new proc just has the FSB set higher.

Plussss the mobo has to be able to support FSB 1333, hence new chips (E6750 etc) will not work in old motherboards..

I think. Infact I am pretty sure.

Anyone else care to correct me?

Hope that answers part of all of your question anyway...

If they did that they would only work in nForce 680i/P35/X38 mobos...

Haha, the dual cores at 1333mhz only run in those mobo's. Or so I am to believe. 1066 is max supported by anything other.

thats the one, i thought that was the case

just raise the FSB higher than 400, how high you can go is another matter!

Well, on a motherboard like this one:
http://www.ncix.com/products/index [...] e=Gigabyte
How high do you think I would be able to OC a Q9450?

Or on a X38, how high do you think I would be able to raise the FSB until I hit the 'FSB wall' I saw mentioned a few times above this post.

Until the chip craps out...depends on the stepping of the chip.

Good C2Ds go to like 3.6
Average ones go to 3.2
most go to 3
Semi ok ones go to 2.8

FSB wall depends on your multiplier setting also...

Intel didn't limit us. If anything this was a smart move. They don't support OCing officially. That is well known. To get a good OCing chip you must dish out some money now for an Extreme version or a the 8.5x 9550.

Also FSB doesn't = cores. It's a quad data rate system clock that transfers data. So a 400 MHz system clock will effectively act like a 1600 Single Data Rate one.

You can run faster than 400 MHz FSB as well.

you mean in all the threads since about a year ago, this question has never come up?

die necromancing noob die!!!!!!!!