Tom's Hardware > Forum > Homebuilt Systems > New System Build > Worth Upgrading Dell...?

Worth Upgrading Dell...?

Forum Homebuilt Systems : New System Build - Worth Upgrading Dell...?

Tom's Hardware: Over 1.4 million members in 6 different countries available to answer all your high-tech questions. Sign up now! Its free!
Word :    Username :           
 

I currently have a Dell XPS 400 with the following specs:

Pentium D 930 3.0 ghz (locked BIOS - so no OC'ing)
2x1 GB Ram at 533 mhz
7900 GS (OEM) (PCI-E)
X-fi Soundcard
Dell 375 watt psu
Windows XP Media Center (not planning on getting Vista anytime soon)
BTX insides (reference to motherboard and power supply location)


I use this computer all the time for work related things and some decent gaming every now and then (Oblivion, FEAR, C&C3, Half-Life 2 Ep. 2, etc.) at 1280 x 1024. I am pretty happy with it, but am gradually noticing that in newer games, my performance is less than desired. I'm not expecting to play Crysis or anything very new and demanding, but would like to see a decent fps increase in the games I currently own (or anything released in 2006 or before) and also increase my satisfaction with this computer in general. Currently, I am planning on using this computer as my primary computer for at least 2 more years.

Two questions:

Is it worth upgrading anything on the computer? Perhaps the processor/motherboard?

Is this technically (it is a Dell) and financially feasible ($150-$250 range)?

Thank you for your time.

~Zack

Edit:

Current alternatives:

Do nothing (I'm currently thinking this is the best opinion).

Sell my computer for a couple hundred bucks now, not have a computer for awhile, save up a couple hundred bucks and build a new computer sometime next February (good idea, but not my favorite option for a variety of reasons).

Swap the 7900 GS with a new HD 3850 I recently found out I can get from a friend $130 (why so cheap? - the deal also involves trading some old hardware) (could be good - but will my processor severely limit the card to the point where it is not worth $130 bucks?)


Message edited by gnaszj on 12-03-2007 at 11:25:51 PM
Sponsored Links
Register or log in to remove.

You might contact Dell to be sure, but that 945P chipset supports Core2Duo Processors. You may only need a BIOS upgrade. If Dell says it is doable, I would try that first. The MB only supports a max of 1066 FSB, so you would have to go with one of the 800 or 1066 FSB processors. Your memory is fine.

One of these would be a nice upgrade. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115032
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115015

One of these would allow you to later upgrade the video to something like the Radeon 3870. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814241067

------------------------------ I know what I know, and I don't know what I don't know.
Reply to tlmck

Another good video option is 8800GT, BUTTT your psu won't cut it. Need at least 450W.

Reply to akhilles

Your Dell 375 watt psu is rated at about 30 amps on the 12 volt rails. Dell power supplies are pretty beefy for their size, and a little underrated. Some of the 375 watt PSU's were rated at 32 amps. Unless you are running a lot of peripherials, you may be fine with a 3850, 3870, or a 8800gt.

Reply to jitpublisher

Just go give you a point of refrence see my computer specs in my signature. As far as games go I am able to run Crysis at medium settings with only water set to high and NO AA. The game runs well in my opinion. That was with 1GB of ram (just upgraded to 2GB last night) My video card isn't as good and you have a dual core processor, with the 2gb of ram you should be pretty good. If you are planning a new computer in 2 yrs and with what your computer is currently used for it should be pretty decent until your next computer.

------------------------------ My System P4 3.2Ghz - Intel 915GAGLK Mainboard- 2GB PC3200 RAM 320GB Hard Drv. -- 7600GS PCI-e
Inwin V564T Case - 300W PS

 

Reply to scorch

Oh wow, The dell xps 400 are a serious issue. Beware if you upgrade the Motherboard with a non-dell mobo you most likely will need to replace to case, and by then you also would need to replace the PSU (because dell's psu are proprietary to the case just like the MOBOs). So you might as well replace the full system. And if you replace the MOBO you will need a new windows installation CD (dells OEM OS CDs are connected with the dell motherboards, which is the reason that you usually don't type in the product key everytime you reinstall. so with mobo, bye-bye windows). So the situation gets really sticky. My advice is either due with the system, or sell it on ebay and build you a new system. with the money saved.


Message edited by tvh on 12-02-2007 at 05:57:52 PM
Reply to tvh

It seems that upgrading the processor is financially a bad idea, as I would most likely need to buy a new motherboard, power supply and case.

Furthermore, my question: Would it be generally foolish (considering my processor) if I upgraded just the video card to a 3850, 3850 or even a 8800gt? What if I waited a few months and waited for a price drop? Would it be worth it then? Note: According to several sources here and on the Dell forums, my power supply will be able to handle all of those cards.


Message edited by gnaszj on 12-03-2007 at 09:15:31 AM
Reply to gnaszj

My $0.02 - I had a Pentium D and know from experience that it will bottleneck the 8800GT to performance similar to the 7900GS. I had about the same setup and the only real difference from the 7900 -> 8800 was that I could run games with 4xAA and AF and get the same frame rates I got with with the 7900. (I did have the 2.66Ghz version of the Pentium D, so I don't know how much your results would differ)

 

*edit* Your power supply can handle any of those cards just fine.


Message edited by rgeist554 on 12-03-2007 at 05:28:51 PM
Reply to rgeist554

I would probably just sell the Dell and build a new PC. Prices are dirt cheap on just about everything right now. I would go with something like this:

 

$240+ - 8800GT
$83 - e2160 (OC to 3.0ghz)
$95 - P35 Gigabyte mobo
$60 - 250gb Sata HD
$40-60 w/rebate - 2gb Corsair XMS or Crucial Ballistix
$30 - DVD burner
$30+ - mid tower case with 120mm intake/exhaust fans
$40+ - decent PSU, maybe a Corsair 450vx (buy.com)


Message edited by Noya on 12-03-2007 at 06:17:11 PM
Reply to Noya

Thanks for the advice everybody.

Current alternatives:

Do nothing (I'm currently thinking this is the best opinion).

Sell my computer for a couple hundred bucks now, not have a computer for awhile, save up a couple hundred bucks and build a new computer sometime next February (good idea, but not my favorite option for a variety of reasons).

Swap the 7900 GS with a new HD 3850 I recently found out I can get from a friend $130 (why so cheap? - the deal also involves trading some old hardware) (could be good - but will my processor severely limit the card to the point where it is not worth $130 bucks?)


Message edited by gnaszj on 12-03-2007 at 11:25:10 PM
Reply to gnaszj

I'd step up to a 8800GT or something. It may be bottlenecked now but at least you're using the most out of your CPU, and whatever you buy later will get a nice speed bump without having to buy a new video card.

Reply to bliq
Tom's Hardware > Forum > Homebuilt Systems > New System Build > Worth Upgrading Dell...?
Go to:

There are 1026 identified and unidentified users. To see the list of identified users, Click here.

Please mind

You are about to answer a thread that has been inactive for more than 6 months.
If you still wish to proceed, please ensure that your posting is original and does not duplicate or overlap any prior responses to this thread.

Add a reply Cancel
Sponsored links
  • Ask the community now
  • Publish
Ad
They won a badge
Join us in greeting them