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X1950 Pro CF vs 8800GT

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December 10, 2007 11:42:51 PM

I've been planning an upgrade for a bit, mainly waiting to see if prices go down after Christmas. I've been looking at an 8800 GT. Then after Tom's "new" video card charts came out it made me wonder. The X1950 Pros aren't on the new list. How would CF X1950 Pros compare to an 8800GT? I can get an 8800GT for around $300ish, but a X1950 Pro for $130ish. So at 43% of the cost would I come close to the same performance?
Resolution will be 1680x1050. My MB supports 16x by 4x. DX 10 not a big point with me, yet.
My concerns are my current X1950 Pro is 580/1600, and none of the ones I've seen have the same clock speeds, will that be a problem for CF. And my other concern is general compatibility with everything. I've never used CF or SLI.
Right now I'm still leaning towards the 8800GT. Single card, less to mess with, less noise (planing on an Arctic Cooling Accelero S1 for it), DX 10 (don't know when I'll actually use it), plus if I do CF then I have to get a VF900 for the new one so they match ;) 
This was just kind of a hmmm, I wonder.

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December 10, 2007 11:52:46 PM

I'd say this is a good time to use this:

[Graphics Cards] SLI / CrossFire FAQs
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/245454-33-crossfire-f...

It answers your "2 mid range cards in CF vs 1 high-end", and also the "CF with different clocks"

Also note that you can get a X1950 for $130 but 2 of them will be 260, which is not 43%.

If you're comparing a single 1950 Pro vs 8800GT i think the fight would end with the 1950Pro screaming "Please please stop it, leave me alone" cuddling with this blanket in a fetal position while the 8800GT smokes a cigarette in the background sitting on a reclining chair.
December 11, 2007 12:15:40 AM

I'd say it's a good time to:
read and understand a post before replying to it.

I have 1 x1950 pro already. So I'm not buying 2 cheaper cards to save money, I'm thinking of buying 1 cheaper card to save money.
I know how CF works, I just don't have personal expeirence with it. And I was seeing if anyone had personal experience with my exact card in CF with a differnet card. I didn't want to underclock my ultimate if i didn't have to.
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December 11, 2007 12:21:12 AM

I have a similar question.. I already have a HIS X1950PRO (590/770) and an MSI 580X powered by Corsair HX520 and would it be better to buy another X1950 or get something else (ie 3850/70) I also have X2 4600+ EE 2X1GB GeIL Black Dragon DDR2800 (Cas:4) and WD3200AAJS
December 11, 2007 12:29:41 AM

Sorry, it wasn't clear to me whether or not you already possesed one of the 1950.

Anyways, I haven't done CF in the past, but if DX10 isn't in your interest atm, i'd recommend getting the other 1950. The reason for this is that later on you'll upgrade to a DX10 (DX10.1 or whatever) card eventually, and if you get a 8800GT right now, you'll want to upgrade later on as well, so in that case you'll be saving a few bucks.

Also, 2 1950Pro should do pretty well on any DX9 game with nice settings on your resolution.
December 11, 2007 12:33:00 AM

Blackra1n said:
I have a similar question.. I already have a HIS X1950PRO (590/770) and an MSI 580X powered by Corsair HX520 and would it be better to buy another X1950 or get something else (ie 3850/70) I also have X2 4600+ EE 2X1GB GeIL Black Dragon DDR2800 (Cas:4) and WD3200AAJS


I think it depends a lot on what games do you want to be playing and what settings. If you want higher resolution and DX10, go with the more powerful cards, but for DX9 another 1950 would cut it
December 11, 2007 12:47:04 AM

Another thought is if I buy the 8800 and ebay my X1950. Looks like they are averaging $70-100. Which would then bring my question to CF X1950 Pros for $130 or an 8800GT for $215ish (300-85 or what ever I can get off ebay).
Not guaranteed on what I'll get, but being an Ultimate Edition should help.
I think the 8800GT just pulled further ahead.
December 11, 2007 12:54:23 AM

How about 'ebaying' the current 1950 and getting a 8800GT 256MB instead.

They're selling for less than $250

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Less performance than the 512MB, but not too bad either. Should still play all DX9 games at high settings at 1600x1050
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December 11, 2007 1:10:17 AM

rook said:
Resolution will be 1680x1050. My MB supports 16x by 4x.
1680x1050 and higher resolutions (16x12, 19x12, etc) are about where SLI/CF options start to make sense.
[:wr2:2] It also depends on what games you play since not all games benefit from SLI/CF setups.

If Battlefield 2142 is your primary game it scales well in CF. THG Video Charts shows a single 1950XT getting 35FPS @ 16x12 and 4AA/8AF + Max Quality. CF 1950XT at the same settings gets 48FPS according to the THG Dual/Quad Video Charts. But then if you check the THG Video Charts you'll see an OC model 8800GT getting 68FPS.
If MS Flight Simulator is your primary game a 2nd 1950Pro in CF gives you no extra peformance.

Usually the best option is to get the single best video card your budget allows.
And without knowing what games you play now and what games you'll play in the year ahead its really hard for anyone to say for sure which option would be best.

If you are looking to play Call of Duty 4, Lost Planet, or World in Conflict you'll do better getting a single 3870 or 8800GT than a 1950CF setup. If you're a casual gamer who doesnt mind dialing back the quality settings a bit even a 3850 or 8800GT/256 would be an "OK" option.


December 11, 2007 1:17:37 AM

The drivers that THG uses are old and can be misleading... I have seen benchmarks of 2 X1950PROs trading decent blows with the old 8800GTS on older drivers as well... ATi has been stepping it up for scalablility in crossfire with now regular driver improvements.. and not only that.. doesn't the X1950XT use 1st generation CF where the X1950PRO runs 3rd gen?
December 11, 2007 1:20:10 AM

At $250 I'd have to go with a 3870 over a 8800GT 256.
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