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Old system needs new video card to hold me over

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December 3, 2007 11:27:55 PM

I have an old 2400+ XP system with 1GB PC3200 and a GF 4400Ti agp card. I want to be able to play my copy of World in Conflict at least on med settings. I am holding out for about another year.

My power supply is a Enermax EG465P-VE it has 20A on the single 12+ rail.
PSU specs here:
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/enermaxeg465p/

I wouldn't mind getting an 1950pro or X1650PRO agp card. I am open to other upgrade suggestion. I just want to keep it cheap, it being a really old paper weight and all. I would like to keep it $150 or less .The 1650pro is aroun$70 or so, that would be nice.

Thanks

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December 4, 2007 12:39:00 PM

bump.... Please......?
December 4, 2007 1:19:35 PM

What is the make and model of your motherboard. With that info a possible AGP card upgrade can be suggested.
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December 4, 2007 1:33:11 PM

I have an el cheapo PC chips 848ALUA MB with SIS 748 chipset. I replaced a failed ASUS MB about a yr ago.

it has a 8X agp slot.

Thanks
December 4, 2007 6:36:48 PM

Cool.. Thanks,. I used it and it said I should have a 238watt PSU.. So looks like the X1650PRO should be ok.

Now I am wondering if I will see a noticeable difference between the 4400Ti and the X1650PRO ????
December 4, 2007 6:40:01 PM

Unless you have a dozen harddrives and a plethora of peripherals that power supply provides ample power fr that system.

I am not sure about what you deem playable but if your budget cap is $150 you may want to investigate into the HD 3850. It is rumoured to be coming out in an AGP. Other than googling "3850 AGP" there isn't anything I can provide information wise. The x1650pro albeit quite cheap is fairly weak in that game. I do not have a system nor seen benchmarks on that CPU, so I'm not sure where you will bottleneck heavily first. Is the cpu running at stock?
December 4, 2007 6:50:47 PM

with that low of a processor, i wouldn't dare anything higher than a x1650.
especially with a 38x0 series card, the bottleneck will kill any advantage of such a high card.

if you want to hold over, get a x1650xt/pro.
i've got one paired with an athlon 2800.

they're both overclocked. works nicely.
with the cheap mobo, i don't think you'll go far past stock, however.
December 4, 2007 6:52:26 PM

yes cpu is stock. The cheap MB wont allow for any OC.. plus my memory isn't the greatest for OC as well.

I just thought that the fastest GPU I could go would be the 1650pro because of bottleneck from the CPU...
December 4, 2007 6:54:37 PM

you're very right. my x1650xt is bottlenecked with my cpu at 2.2GHz (10% overclock) which is where i run games.
December 4, 2007 6:55:21 PM

cah027 said:
I think I am going to go with this one :
SAPPHIRE 100175L Radeon X1650PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

unless you guys dont think I should? I think my PSU should handle it ?


That card you linked is the DDR2 version, I strongly recommend against getting that card.

I have a DDR3 version of the same card that I used for just one week before replacing it with an x1950GT (got a good deal on the 1950). If you're interested I'll sell you the still practically new DDR3 x1650pro (worked perfectly for the week I had it installed).

Let me know.
December 4, 2007 6:57:50 PM

frozenlead said:
you're very right. my x1650xt is bottlenecked with my cpu at 2.2GHz (10% overclock) which is where i run games.



Great, so there you have it. I wouldn't gain anything from getting a faster GPU. Plus I am a real tight wad with money right now. I have a goal to save enough money to build a new system when the Nehalem comes out in a yr or so. I want 8 cores !

Saving one penny at a time ! :( 
December 4, 2007 6:58:21 PM

ah, yes, forgot to say that.

make sure you do get a DDR3 card, and not a DDR2.

my x1650xt is DDR3. beautiful card for it's price.
December 4, 2007 7:02:05 PM

how much did you pay for it ?
December 4, 2007 7:05:28 PM

I paid about $100 for it from newegg. I'll sell it for $50.
December 4, 2007 7:06:47 PM

Get an HD2600Pro/XT for AGP. They're relatively cheap and perform better than X1650s (especially with AA on). They aren't nearly as power hungry as the HD2900s so your PSU should handle it just fine.
December 4, 2007 7:10:38 PM

mtyermom said:
I paid about $100 for it from newegg. I'll sell it for $50.



YGM !

December 4, 2007 7:49:39 PM

i'm going to have to agree with praeses on this one. there are rumours of a HD3850 AGP version, which if it does come to existance, i will be buying, is probably worth the wait. even if it does get bottlenecked, if you go up to high resolutions, it will perform a lot better than an X1650, which is quite old now.
December 4, 2007 10:57:13 PM

Nik_I said:
i'm going to have to agree with praeses on this one. there are rumours of a HD3850 AGP version, which if it does come to existance, i will be buying, is probably worth the wait. even if it does get bottlenecked, if you go up to high resolutions, it will perform a lot better than an X1650, which is quite old now.


But even with my slow CPU ? I thought it would bottleneck even the 1650 ? What would be the point. I want to spend as little as possible on this hunck of junk as possible. If it would give me a noticable increase over the 1650 with a 2400+ cpu I would be interested.

I found this article

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/agp-platform-analysis-uk,...

Basically its says that my cpu will battleneck the faster card on some games but it might let me run 4xAA on higher res.

So I might get 20% more for double the money.
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