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Don't game don't o/c but need a makeover please review and adviase

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December 4, 2007 1:21:17 AM

My current box is too darn noisy for listening to music which I do a lot of. I may be over achieving here since I don't game or o/c but check out my selection mostly from neweggs user's picks.

Feel free to make addition suggestions. Does anyone know if this is going to be a quiet machine. I'm pretty sure the present-day generation of systems are quieter and cooloer then my existing athlon 2000+ t'bred hot and noisy rig.

I recently bought this power supply with another build and find it very quiet. 18a on 12v.

Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC ATX 430W Power Supply - Retail
$39.99

ASUS M2N-SLI Deluxe AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 SLI MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131013
$124.99

XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814150229
$129.99


ASUS 18X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe and 14X DVD-RAM Write Black SATA Model DRW-1814BLT - OEM
Item #: N82E16827135145
$32.99

CORSAIR XMS2 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TWIN2X2048-6400C4 - Retail
Item #: N82E16820145034
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy
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AMD Athlon 64 X2 5000+ Brisbane 2.6GHz Socket AM2 65W Black Edition Processor Model ADO5000DSWOF - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103194
$129.99

ARCTIC COOLING Freezer 64 Pro 92mm CPU Cooler - Retail
Item #: N82E16835185125

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
Item #: N82E16835100007
Return Policy: Consumable Items Return Policy $5.99

December 4, 2007 1:25:48 AM

sounds like u have a nice build in mind.....i have the similar board for my amd machine and the same memory.....god i wish i paid that price lol! but that should play music and them some since u dont game:)  since you listen to music alot, maybe consider getting a creative labs sound card.
December 4, 2007 1:45:20 AM

Thanks for input.

I love my chaintech av710. $25 card. I don't do any high end recording so no use getting too wild about the better A/D chips.

I do some flight sim so I thought why not get a decent Video card.
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December 4, 2007 2:18:11 AM

im not sure what the requirements are for that game but just make sure it meets them:) 
December 4, 2007 2:44:38 AM

I swapped out the ps with this one. I have the thermaltake and liked it but thought this might be a nice upgrade.

OCZ StealthXStream OCZ600SXS ATX12V / EPS12V 600W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817341010
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate $99.99
$89.99

ALSO;

I see review that the video card I picked is not quiet.

Hope someone can suggest a quiet card.
December 4, 2007 2:51:32 AM

Okay, since this is a nongaming rig and you don't plan on OC'ing, here's what I would build far as AMD goes:

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
The BE series runs at 45W which means cooler and less noise. Also, only need the stock cooler to cool it.
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Don't need anything fancy unless you're planning to OC.
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Same board minus SLI which since this isn't a gaming machine, it doesn't matter.
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Again, won't matter since this is a nongaming machine.

This setup is half the cost of your original build, which leads money towards a sound card and whatever else you may need. To be honest, all you need to play mp3's is a Celeron/Sempron.

December 4, 2007 11:15:46 PM

I may run flight simulator 10 which I understand requires alot more power then FS9. I'll check into its requirements.

Thanks for the suggestions. I'll definitely look into them. But from another post I had on the Vid cards forum. I'm going to look into the quiet passive cooled cards.

Thanks again, I appreciate the input. You've saved me some valuable research time.
December 5, 2007 1:01:46 AM

Also if your not overclocking........dont get the black edition and save some cash.....its only usefull if OCing
December 5, 2007 1:41:39 AM

FSX would work really nicely on a Phenom or Q6600, it's optimized for quads.

The burner you picked is quiet indeed.

I'd pick WD disks because they tend to be quieter than Seagate or others.

A good case like P182 can suppress a lot of noise.

December 5, 2007 2:26:48 AM

aevm said:
A good case like P182 can suppress a lot of noise.
Possibly the biggest single change you can make to your existing system to quiet it down. Though I agree, the Corsair 450 watt PSU is a good deal, as is dropping the black edition. I don't know how serious of a music listener you are, but getting something with better DACs than your Chaintech can make a big difference. Also, Flight Simulator can take all the power you can give it, and still want more. Even if you put two 8800GTX's in SLI, you can't run at a giant resolution and still max everything out. So the video power really depends on what you're willing to accept. A good compromise? I suggest this passively cooled 8600GTS. Just be sure to have adequate case cooling. Also, changing the case fans in whatever case you do get is important. Nothing beats a Nexus 120mm fan for moving a lot of air and being near silent while doing so. There's SO much you can do to quiet your computer down. The fewer fans on coolers, the better. A large fanless heatsink to replace the stock cooler can do a lot, especially if you're the CPU heats up, which would trigger a fan speed increase.
December 5, 2007 2:59:36 AM

I would suggest that you go to www.silentpcreview.com. They have done tests on cases, fans, psu's, etc... for quietness. The key to a quiet system is a quiet case such as the Antec Solo. You want as few fans as possible, and what fans you have should be big and turn slowly. The quietest system would be cooled by a Zalman reserator.
December 5, 2007 4:30:27 AM

Thanks for corsair PS suggestion.
I'm afraid the Chaintech opinion may misinform. I believe I do some serious listening and the Envy chipset does well. The ADC may not be adequate for recording. I definitely don't attempt serious recording. Those guys have big bucks tied up in cards, mics etc. and have a use for it.

I think the BE2400 would be a better selection on the AMD instead of the Black (as recommended). And at 45w it should be cool and quiet for any case. The case I picked isn't a P182, hopefully it lives up to some of the reviews.
December 5, 2007 6:28:59 PM

What is your $25 Chaintech card? You're really kidding yourself if you think that the card is as good as some higher end cards. The opamps make a huge difference in the sound, and even the power filtering cap can affect the sound, mostly the quality of the bass.
December 5, 2007 7:54:14 PM

that HSF is very quiet! I like it. That psu is nice too. I have many of them and not one has so much as hiccuped.

I'd scrap the 8600GT and go with an ATI 55nm board. Better power control and less heat. You might even be able to go passive with just a quiet 120mm case fan.
December 5, 2007 10:16:33 PM

shadowmaster625 said:
I'd scrap the 8600GT and go with an ATI 55nm board. Better power control and less heat. You might even be able to go passive with just a quiet 120mm case fan.

Are you referring to RV670? I so I must point out that you are mistaken on both accounts.

Edit: Looking back I think you were referring to the RV630 (HD2600). That is 65nm though, not 55nm.
December 8, 2007 6:27:06 PM

Took some advise here and after lots of reviews and research, I made these changes

I know there may be other opinions, but anyone see any glaring mistakes. I'm still trying to determine if the Video card will fit with the m/b and case. I almost went with the antec plus that has neheo 550 modular cabling and is same case as the solo. The silentpc site recommends corsair and neheo. I may still waffle back to the Plus because of the modular cabling, but then maybe not etc etc. I'll just have to decide when I'm ready to buy

Antec Solo Black/Silver Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Item #: N82E16811129018
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$20.00 Instant
$99.99
$79.99


ASUS M2N-E AM2 NVIDIA nForce 570 Ultra MCP ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Item #: N82E16813131022
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$114.99
$94.99

MSI NX8600GT-T2D256EZ GeForce 8600GT 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
Item #: N82E16814127293
Return Policy: Limited 30-Day Return Policy
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $29.992 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $39.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate $104.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-450VX ATX12V V2.2 450W Power Supply - Retail
Item #: N82E16817139003
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.992 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99 -$5.00 Instant

$15.00 Mail-in Rebate $84.99
$79.99

A-DATA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model ADQVE1A16K - Retail
Item #: N82E16820211066
Return Policy: Memory (Modules, USB) Return Policy
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $9.992 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.99 $47.99

AMD Athlon X2 BE-2400 Brisbane 2.3GHz Socket AM2 Processor Model ADH2400DOBOX - Retail
Item #: N82E16819103204
Return Policy: Processors (CPUs) Return Policy
Select An Optional Extended Warranty Plan 1 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $14.992 Year Service Net Replacement Plan -- $19.99
December 16, 2007 2:36:15 AM

Two things. The Solo is far inferior to the P182 in terms of noise reduction, so thats a must-change. Also, the motherboard you've chosen...it's so-so, but it works.
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