Hey all! I will be recieving the last piece of my PC tommorow (hopefully) and I wanted to overclock it. Im planning on overclocking the CPU , the GPU and the memory. My only purpose is gaming , and I wanted to know which apps should I use for benchmarking all 3. I thought about using 3DMark , but synthetic benchmarks dont always reflect performance in real world gaming. 1)Which programs should I use? just in-game benchmarks? 2)which programs do I need for stress testing memory? 3)what is better (regarding memory) highest frequency or best frequency/timing ?
As requested I organized my first post. Why do you need specs? I need help in the software side , not the hardware. but still: E8500 cooled by OCZ Vendetta 2 XFX 9800GTX Corsair XMS2 800mhz cl4 (2gb kit) GA-EP35-DS3
Message edited by ilan2212 on 04-30-2008 at 08:40:48 PM
Hey all!
I will be recieving the last piece of my PC tommorow (hopefully)
and I wanted to overclock it.
Im planning on overclocking the CPU , the GPU and the memory.
My only purpose is gaming , and I wanted to know which apps should I
use for benchmarking all 3.
I thought about using 3DMark , but synthetic benchmarks dont always reflect performance in real world gaming.
1)Which programs should I use? just in-game benchmarks?
2)which programs do I need for stress testing memory?
3)what is better (regarding memory) highest frequency or
best frequency/timing ?
3D mark is useful as you are able to see whether your changes are heading in the right direction or not and for stress testing I like to use Orthos http://www.overclock.net/downloads/138142-orthos.html for RAM I prefer the frequency/timing approach i.e lowest latency @ the highest frequency and no, I don't need your specs.
Overclocking CPUs is all about hardware and not much about software. Only software you will need is CoreTemp to monitor your CPU temperature and Prime95 to stress test your system to make sure your OC is stable. Your overclocking is done in your motherboard's BIOS settings.
Overclocking memory is only necessary if you need a FSB faster than your memory is rated for. With that CPU that means you will only need to OC your memory if you intend to OC past 3.6Ghz. And your memory should OC itself automatically in your BIOS settings based on your FSB if you have it set for hte proper ratio. You will want to run Memtest if you OC your memory to make sure you memory is stable as well.
Overclocking your GPU means you will need RivaTuner to do the OCing and then use ATI Tool to make sure your OC is stable. And yes, ATI Tool works with nVidia cards.
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Reply to deuce271
download FRAPS, turn on the feature that logs your FPS, and then play games. Go back and review how the framerates look. If you just want to compare your system to other people's, then you'll want to just do 3d mark 06 and some standardized in-game tests.
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Reply to jeremyrailton
deuce is right. With the exception of testing and monitoring software, overclocking IS about hardware. First piece of advice: do not use the Gigabyte Windows OC tool Easytune. Use the BIOS.
Programs like Orthos and Prime95 do two things - besides their original purpose - for overclocking. They maximize CPU load while doing complex math. That drives your core temps up and checks for stability at high temperatures and loads. If you have a dual core processor, Orthos is easier to use. Running Orthos automatically loads two cores. Prime95 has to be set up.
See, specs help. Referring you to an AMD OC guide would have been pointless. But originally, we had no way of knowing.
Before you start, go into the BIOS and raise memory voltage to 2.2 volts. Then do one thing at a time. Get the CPU up to where you want it within the constraints of CPU voltage and temperatures. With a decent air cooler and a good (with respect to air flow) case, you shuld be able to reach 4 GHz.
Then fine tune memory. You will not see a lot of difference here. At 3.3 GHz (367 MHz FSB) on Box#1, dropping memory timing from the default 5-5-5-15-2T to 3-3-3-7-1T increased memory I/O about 7%. Sound likes a lot, but it made no practical difference in applications or games.
Take good notes. The Gigabyte BIOS will let you save multiple BIOS configurations - at least my EP35-DS3P does. [F11] saves and [F12] restores. Handy feature. The Gigabyte sytem is not listed below because it is still "a work in progress".
I keep a divided folder/pouch for each of my systems. Each contains system software, hardware manuals and driver disks, configuration notes, and a maintenance/upgrade log.
After all of that is stable, then OC the video card if you wish. My idea of "stable" is a good 24 hour Orthos or Prime95 run.
Build suggestion: before you install your parts in the case, breadboard the system first. That enables you to test the parts before you install them in a case.
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Reply to jsc
You got me all wrong, I KNOW the overclocking is done in the BIOS ,
I was talking about monitoring and testing programs.
Anyway , the computer is already assembled and running and I will start overclocking as soon as I get my cooler.
Oh and one more thing: I have 2 fans in my case: front and back.
Should I add a third? If I do , where? (the fan will be located on the side panel)
for example - above the memory.
You got me all wrong, I KNOW the overclocking is done in the BIOS ,
I was talking about monitoring and testing programs.
Anyway , the computer is already assembled and running and I will start overclocking as soon as I get my cooler.
Oh and one more thing: I have 2 fans in my case: front and back.
Should I add a third? If I do , where? (the fan will be located on the side panel)
for example - above the memory.
If you do add a third fan I would suggest either the top of the case or if in the side then in line with the graphic card.
If you do add a third fan I would suggest either the top of the case or if in the side then in line with the graphic card.
If I put it on top it'll be between the PSU and DVD , and will blow a bit of air on the RAM , oh and Ill have to make the holes myself. On the other hand , facing the video card is better because the case came with ventilation and mounting holes ready , so only a matter of buying the fan. Oh and I forgot to mention that the CPU cooler I will buy (OCZ Vendetta 2) will suck air from the area of the RAM and blow it on the fan at the back , so take that into consideration. With that in mind , is it worth making mounting and installation holes facing the memory?
Message edited by ilan2212 on 05-03-2008 at 08:06:39 PM
I'm sorry mate, my bad. I should have stated that the fan, if placed at the top or side, should exhaust the air from case. The general idea is to almost create negative pressure inside the case so that cooler air is drawn in, I have two fans on the side panel, one on the back and one on top all set as exhausts then one on the front set as an inlet.
Are you sure? Here is what I think: You actually need MORE air inside , to make positive pressure , which means that there would be more air "catching" the heat. Sort of like the opposite of a thermos: instead of isolating the heat by vaccum you transer it by higher air pressure , and its not like a sealed chamber , air will also escape , so no build-up of hot air. Thats my take on it , any other thoughts?
Message edited by ilan2212 on 05-04-2008 at 09:17:52 PM
Indeed. I had 9 fans in my case, however upon removing all 4 side fans from the CM Stacker 832, my NB and cpu temps dropped ~3C. Ambient was constant, and I tested this after 12hours of small FFTs when the cpu temps settled.
Of course I put the 4 fans back in, and temps rose up 3C, then I did combinations of 3fans, 2fans, then finally 1 fan. All of those resulted in a higher temp.
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