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Ok, yes I could spend a couple more weeks hunting for answers to ALL my questions, but I've done a fair bit so far and thought I would give anyone who wished to help a chance to do so.

Here is the new build and where I have gotten so far with over-clocking it.

Dual Boot Vista Ultimate/XP Pro

CPU: Q6600 G0
Memory: 4GB 2x2gb Corsair CM2X2048-6400C5
Mother Board: XFX Nforce 680i LT
Video: Evga 9800GTX

CPU running at 3.2GHz
Multiplier = x9
Bus Speed = 356.3 MHz
Rated FSB = 1425.3MHz

Memory Timings
tRAS=4 tRCD=3 tRP=7 tRC=22 tCL=5 tCPC=0
tWR=5 tRRD=3 tRWT=5 tWTR=9
tRDRD=3 tWRWR=2

Video Card running at Stock Speeds
GPU = 675MHz
Memory = 1100MHz
Shader = 1688MHz

All the above is set in Bios.
In nTune I have the following set:
SPP = 4000MHz
MCP = 4125MHz

My questions are,

I cant seem to find the proper settings to enter for the
PCIe bus and the SPP/MCP settings in the 680i bios. (Phoenix ver. 6.00 PG 1/22/2008)

And nTune (I know has problems) doesn't seem to like me trying to OC the Graphics card. I have heard of Riva Tuner but frankly that is one scarey beast with far more to it than just simply upping the GPU, Memory and Shader clocks.

So advice for bumping the Video would be appreciated.
Im not looking for max speeds here (I know I could wring more out of the Q6600) just moderate OC's that dont require me to up the voltages or go radical on the cooling side, Im just using a CPNS7000 (I think) Cooler on the CPU and the stock cooling option on the 9800GTX.

Also any thoughts on upping the settings I already have or any other helpful advice is appreciated.


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The 8800GTS out performs the 9800GTX clock for clock, so it's it may or may not be a good idea to go with the 9800GTX.

Refer to the OCing guides here, they show you the most basic things, including RivaTuner.


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Hey, look at that! 680i @ 3.2?? Amazing!!!!

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Ohh Im soooo amazed at your wit Lupiron think you could maybe do something really tricky and post something useful? I am well aware that the 680i / q6600 combo can be clocked much higher. Im working to balance safety and longevity with bang per buck. 3.2 is quite high enough for my pruposes.

You should read my post a bit more carefully.
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Thanks for the suggestion Evil but Im already using the 9800, this is an actual build not a prospective one. One of the things I was really hoping someone knew was how to set the SPP and MCP clocks in the Bios instead of using nTune.

Id prefer to set these things up in the Bios and only OC the Video card via software after boot. Not really interested in modding the 9800 video bios to my prefered settings. But the 680i Bios is kind of sparse on info about OCing the SPP and MCP as are my findings on the web. As I said, I have done some looking around but havent found the little bit of info that I need. The SPP and MCP settings are easily found in the Bios but what I don't know is what the base freq. is, without that I dont know what to set the multiplier to to achieve my desied end frequency (4gig SPP and 4.125gig MCP)


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LOL! No, really! Amazing! As you are NOT aware, 680i and q6600s RARELY clock over 2.9ish! There may be higher OC potential! But only 10% of 680i boards over clock, like yours.

Sooooo... Useful information. Gotta think! I guess I really only know about the chip itself. Pretty sad, huh?

Wanna know anything about yer quad?

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Lupiron wrote :

LOL! No, really! Amazing! As you are NOT aware, 680i and q6600s RARELY clock over 2.9ish! There may be higher OC potential! But only 10% of 680i boards over clock, like yours.

 

Sooooo... Useful information. Gotta think! I guess I really only know about the chip itself. Pretty sad, huh?

 

Wanna know anything about yer quad?

 

--Lupi!


Lol, yeah, 680i is one of the worst chipsets available on market for overclocking, almost as bad as 650i. Those are really high numbers. Good job. You should keep an eye on chipset temperature though.


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He thought I was making fun of him, hehe!

 

Hey Dagger, ever try and get a 1 clock cycle command rate? Man, I am having one hell of a time trying to do that. Its way fun, and in theory, your 2 tick command rate means you waste a extra cycle. As in, if you can eek out a 1 tick command rate, it technically doubles your ram speed.

 

So in theory, that means a 700 Mhz command rate 1 is faster than 1066 junk. :)~ And if you can keep those timings... Woo-Hoo! I bet that means you fly. (Let the naysayers enter their "you'll never notice it" trash, because your computer sure the hell will, especially those of us who trash that Fing slug of a swapfile.)

 

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Lupiron wrote :

He thought I was making fun of him, hehe!

 

Hey Dagger, ever try and get a 1 clock cycle command rate? Man, I am having one hell of a time trying to do that. Its way fun, and in theory, your 2 tick command rate means you waste a extra cycle. As in, if you can eek out a 1 tick command rate, it technically doubles your ram speed.

 

So in theory, that means a 700 Mhz command rate 1 is faster than 1066 junk. :) ~ And if you can keep those timings... Woo-Hoo! I bet that means you fly. (Let the naysayers enter their "you'll never notice it" trash, because your computer sure the hell will, especially those of us who trash that Fing slug of a swapfile.)

 

--Lupi!


Someone has too much time on their hands. How is that working out? :p


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Other than 780 at 4-3-3-10 2 tick, no post! LOL! I havent tried that hard. You'd want a 650ish 1 tick anyways. If it goes below that, you get near normal performance. I guess.

Who knows, once I get it stable at any speed, I'll just double the speed at normal settings and see whats faster, if its at least close, we know it can work.

Got me, two people trying is better than one! So get to work!

--Lupi!

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Lupiron wrote :

LOL! No, really! Amazing! As you are NOT aware, 680i and q6600s RARELY clock over 2.9ish! There may be higher OC potential! But only 10% of 680i boards over clock, like yours.

Sooooo... Useful information. Gotta think! I guess I really only know about the chip itself. Pretty sad, huh?

Wanna know anything about yer quad?

--Lupi!



dagger wrote :

Lol, yeah, 680i is one of the worst chipsets available on market for overclocking, almost as bad as 650i. Those are really high numbers. Good job. You should keep an eye on chipset temperature though.


Agreed.


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You should send buy the winner a new cpu to replace the one that burnt out. :na:


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Hehe, yeah! And dont you all fret! Lupi will be making an entrance into the competition once I decide on what to do.

I'd just use my p5k-e wifi, but I appear to have damaged the MoBo physically when I spent 2 hours forcing in some Reaper X 4-4-3-15 RAM. Now I get random re boots and mem problems, including the beepbeepbeep memory error, meaning ram is installed wrong or not present.

And it happens at stupid times. Can test Prime blend and small ffts fine, just when I go to click on a link in a web page! Random re boot! Halo 1 = Random Re boots sometimes. Crysis for hours stable, never a random re boot!

Waaahhhh, I hurt my poor MoBo!

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