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Hi,

I was just wondering if any of you guys know when the mid-range quad core Penryns are set to come out, and the performance gains over the current quad cores (Mainly Q6600). I was also wondering if it would be worth waiting for penryn, as I am in no hurry to build at this moment in time.
Finally, does anyone know the scheduled release date for Nvidia's 9 Series GPUs?

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20 january for penryn i think,
no word on Nvidia 9xxx but those 512mb 8800GTS look sweet, gutted i bought my 8800GT now :cry:

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Yes, Jan 20th.

The Gain should be about 7% Clock for Clock.
However, you should be able to Clock the Penryn much higher with lower temps.

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Indeed, they will also be priced better..

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The 2.83GHz Q9550, 2.66GHz Q9450, and 2.50GHz Q9300 will be priced at $530, $316, and $266 each in 1,000 unit quantities respectively. Like the QX9650, they will also have 12MB of L2 cache but this time will be in the 95W TDP band.

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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2007/ [...] r_launch/1

The prices are fantastic, 2.5 ghz for 266 bucks, meanwhile the 2.66 will be at 316. The article is a tad bit wrong though, the 2.5 ghz model will have 6 mb of cache from what I've recently read, and the 2.66 and 2.85 will have 12 mb's.

This makes it even harder for AMD, the performance increase is small for penryn, around 4-7% as stated. But the clocks are higher for the price, which makes it harder for already Phenoms overpriced quads which are inferior. Intel will make more profit per 45nm product as well. Also, Penryn has the SSE4 instruction set, for certain encoding tasks, the performance increase is massive, not just 4-7% =P.

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zenmaster wrote :

Yes, Jan 20th.

The Gain should be about 7% Clock for Clock.
However, you should be able to Clock the Penryn much higher with lower temps.

Yes and No.

7% clock for clock but the "mainstream" multiplier is 8x (Q9450). The wall is around 450-500ish, which means the max would be 3600-4000 MHz. Q6600s can hit the lower number on air and further on water with the 9x multiplier. The Q9450 and even 9550 (8.5x) will be FSB Wall limited rather than thermals in a good OCing system... Then again with more mature X38s and X48s perhaps we will see better FSB numbers. That remains to be seen.

This is what killed Penryn for me. I'd almost wait for Q6700s to drop in price, get a Q6600, or wait on QX9650s to drop in price. The move to 1333 MHz FSB killed my hopes.

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goodie wrote :

20 january for penryn i think,
no word on Nvidia 9xxx but those 512mb 8800GTS look sweet, gutted i bought my 8800GT now :cry:

I'm in the same boat.
Don't worry about the 8800GTS, the 8800GT is very near the same speed. Just get that little fan spinning fast enough.

There will be a high-end Nvidia 9xxx/ ATI (r700) coming in early spring that will have 8800GTX/SLI type performance on 1 card.
So keep your 8800GT and save your money for the next big thing.

I'm also waiting for the Jan 20 mainstream yorkfields. So hard to wait!

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Thanks for all the information. May as well wait until Jan 20 for a Q9450. Crossing my fingers that it won't get delayed. Also, are there any new GPU's comming out between now and February that will match the GT?

Thanks again.

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The nvidia 9800 is rumored for Februrary, so there is a possibility, but it is just a rumor right now. But it was leaked from a nvidia partner from one of the manufacturers, so it might hold some weight, only time will tell.

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Kamrooz wrote :

That's what I've heard also, the 'rumor' is 9800 flagship (GTX type) in Feb and 9800 mainstream parts (GT/S) in June. I plan on holding out until Jun/Jul of '08 and picking the best price/perf part out there.

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*sighs*

I need a new computer, been waiting a year for Penryn. Now I want a bigger motorcycle. It's so difficult...where to put the money!

Someone buy my old bike!

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There is no pressure for Intel to release Penryn now ... other than reduced manufacturing costs.

I'd assume they will want to sell off as much of the 65nm stock as possible before floating loads of 45nm stuff.

With AMD's B2 Phenom disaster they have no current pressure to release tons of 45nm stock ... they can clear the warehouse first.

My guess is they will definately do this ... the Netbust era taught them to control inventory much more carefully.

Any thoughts on this?

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