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(sorry about the english)
Hi
I wanna oc'ing my cpu and i need a help in set the bios options.
q6600 G0 + tuniq tower
P35 DS3L
2GB 800MHZ 4-4-4-12 (CORSAIR)

1. What is the System Memory Multiplier and to how much i need to set this ?
2. Where in my bios i set the memory ratio (the 1:1, 2:3...) ?
3. Where is the part of the memory timing ?
4. What i need to set in the all voltage ? in the CPU Voltage control set the preliminary voltage ? I not understand the +0.2, where it needed - in need to set this to 0.2, 0.4, 0.6 or do plus 0.2 to the existent voltage ?

I hope you understand me...

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It's Gigabyte mobo, right ?

Go to MIT by pressing ctrl+F1 in BIOS.

You tell me what I do.
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slicessoul wrote :

It's Gigabyte mobo, right ?

 

Go to MIT by pressing ctrl+F1 in BIOS.

 

come on!you still dont recognise that model number?of course its a Gigabyte board!

 

press CTRL+F1 before you go into M.I.T.not after.and you will see the memory timing menu.

 

leave system multiplier on stock and select 1:1 for FSB:memory.

 

how high you want to overclock.that will help me give you some estimate setting.list you VID as well by using Coretemp.

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Message edited by iluvgillgi ll on 05-03-2008 at 06:28:35 PM
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iluvgillgill wrote :

come on!you still dont recognise that model number?of course its a Gigabyte board!

press CTRL+F1 before you go into M.I.T.not after.and you will see the memory timing menu.

leave system multiplier on stock and select 1:1 for FSB:memory.

how high you want to overclock.that will help me give you some estimate setting.list you VID as well by using Coretemp.


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im abit frustrated by my E2160+650i thats why i type in such way.slicesoul odnt be offended!:)

but its true though!hehe

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iluvgillgill wrote :

come on!you still dont recognise that model number?of course its a Gigabyte board!

press CTRL+F1 before you go into M.I.T.not after.and you will see the memory timing menu.

leave system multiplier on stock and select 1:1 for FSB:memory.

how high you want to overclock.that will help me give you some estimate setting.list you VID as well by using Coretemp.



i didnt have the 1:1 option... i think that the "system memory multiplier" is instead this - 2.00, 2.50, and some like this.
about the "how high you want to overclock" - highest than i can.
what its a VID ?

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elemental_pk wrote :

i didnt have the 1:1 option... i think that the "system memory multiplier" is instead this - 2.00, 2.50, and some like this.
about the "how high you want to overclock" - highest than i can.
what its a VID ?


1:1 is equivalent to system memory multiplier of 2. Gigabyte motherboards like to do this I suppose. You can either do the math seriously, or just play around with the settings a bit.

VID is voltage identification. Pretty much it's what your cpu's voltage is identified with.


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VID you can look at it as the stated default votlage for specific CPU.its different for every CPU even if they are the same model.

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my vid its 1.325v

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iluvgillgill wrote :

im abit frustrated by my E2160+650i thats why i type in such way.slicesoul odnt be offended! :)

 

but its true though!hehe

My mistake. :)

 

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EleMental! ::chuckles.:: Hopefully your VID isnt 1.3250! Thats the worse possible one! Anyways, do me a favor and DL then run core temp, the newest one should work! When you see your VID with this program, run any powerful program, and make sure the VID doesnt change at all.

You may wanna turn off speed step as well.

If your VID changes! Yippie! If it stays at 1.3250, well... thats the worse VID, but you can still reach 3.6!

--Lupi!

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Lupiron wrote :

EleMental! ::chuckles.:: Hopefully your VID isnt 1.3250! Thats the worse possible one! Anyways, do me a favor and DL then run core temp, the newest one should work! When you see your VID with this program, run any powerful program, and make sure the VID doesnt change at all.

You may wanna turn off speed step as well.

If your VID changes! Yippie! If it stays at 1.3250, well... thats the worse VID, but you can still reach 3.6!

--Lupi!


Dude my english not soo good soo pless talk clearly and not in slang.
I not understand - 1.325 it is my VID or it is not ?
what is the good thing and what is the bad - if the VID chagned or if its not changed ?
Is it another way to check my VID ?
Is it the VID is not the same for all the Q6600 processors ?
Give me pless a link to the newest core temt, cuz i dont know what is the version of the new one !!!

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elemental_pk wrote :

Dude my english not soo good soo pless talk clearly and not in slang.
I not understand - 1.325 it is my VID or it is not ?
what is the good thing and what is the bad - if the VID chagned or if its not changed ?
Is it another way to check my VID ?
Is it the VID is not the same for all the Q6600 processors ?
Give me pless a link to the newest core temt, cuz i dont know what is the version of the new one !!!


Apparently, VID for every cpu is likely to be different. Download Coretemp and check.

According to Lupi's research, the lower the VID, the better the overclock, so it's best if you have a low VID Q6600.


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The CoreTemp is suck...
I check in CPU-Z and there in the core temp written 1.136v and its move up to 1.168.
When i run a prime95 test its go up to 1.264 at max'...
Soo.. its is good ? i think its is good...
What i need to do now ? i think i need the MEMORY voltage too.. how i check ?
aaaa... thx to all for the help

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Uhhh... You HAVE to use core temp to list the processors VID. CPUz will change, just like you saw!

Prime 95 jumps it up to 1.264, hmm? ::Sniffsniff.:: I smell a 1.3000 or higher! Waaahhhh! Dont tell me, you bought a retail box recently to get it?

You may wanna disable speed step in the bios or you will get random readings like that, hehe! It sets the multiplier down to x 6, which makes it look like its runnin' on less power.

BTW, Core Temp, CPUz and HWMonitor are the three you wanna watch, as well as the windows performance monitor. Those three programs and WPM tell you just about everything you need to know!!

--Lupi!

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:( didnt understand, my situation is good or not - to how much i can go with the oc ?
soo.... what we do now ?
to how much set the cpu voltage - to the lowest: 1.136 or to highest: 1.264 when its on X9 ?
and to how much set the ddr2 overvoltage ?


Message edited by elemental_ pk on 05-05-2008 at 09:12:38 PM
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Wait.. it doesnt work like that! The BIOS VCore will change when ya hit windows, and then that will change when the processor is under use, and requiring some serious power.

Here is how VCore works. You set a Bios Value! Say, 1.000
When you set that in the bios, Vdrop will apply, to protect the processor for over voltage swings, it lowers the VCore from 1.000 to, say... 0.9750

So you have a VDrop of .0250

Then in windows its gonna idle around that voltage. But when you put strain on the processor and make it have to work, it'll lower even more. Different parts, boards and such will effect the values.

So it goes from around 0.9750 to .93500 when under full load. Again, each mother boards VDroop and drop can be different!

If that chips speed is high, and it's required voltage is low, Boom! BSOD or other error. Thats because the voltage level tells the processor what to spit out. A 1 or a 0.

If the VCore is just the smallest amount to low for a given speed, it may spit out the wrong value, and as we all know, a single computational error could corrupt the whole amount of data! Be it a program running that bombs out, or just trashes a system file...

Sure, it'd prolly have to be running at a high speed due to other activities before that would occur. You can run a chip at a higher speed all day long, and not get any errors, but prime is a different story!

So First you need to look at what you set your Bios VCore too. Then go into windows, then use CPUz to see what the idle value is in windows, so you know your VDrop. Then run primes small ffts on all cores for 1 min, and see what it is at then.

After you get used to what it does, you can now target a given LOADED VCore voltage.

The higher the VDroop, the worse off yer board is for over clocking!

Why? Because that poor chip will idle higher than it needs for most of the time!!! And you'll never get the power out of your chip that Primes small ffts does. Sooo...

I hope that helps!

--Lupi!

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soo its the vcore + the vdroop to know what the loaded cvore...
soo know in need to chech what my drop, rigth ?
ok i do it but when a set the vcore, do not chage any another voltage ? only the cvore, rigth ?

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